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| Re: [GMCnet] John Shotwell and all - New Entry? [message #294303 is a reply to message #294298] |
Sun, 24 January 2016 11:35   |
jhbridges
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Looks like a thou in wheels... if the tires are in date and the inside isn't ruint, a reasonable price. If he asks 1500. he'll watch it leave for a thou. Assuming it's close enough for you to get home without going broke in the process. For 5 -6 Large you could do a Manny Tranny and a built engine. 10-12 you could rehab the running gear all up if the frame is good. What's the inside look like? Passable?
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
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| Re: [GMCnet] John Shotwell and all - New Entry? [message #294305 is a reply to message #294303] |
Sun, 24 January 2016 11:46 |
Guy Lopes
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I just spoke with the owner. It hasn't run in 4 years when the engine
developed a bad oil leak (front seal?). Apparently it came from CA where it
received a rebuilt engine, drove to WA where the oil leak developed and then
it sat. So it appears that it might not need a full rebuild. It's a 403.
Electrolevel II air system.
I asked him about frame rust, but he has never been under it so has no idea.
I received some small cell phone pics of the interior. It's all there and
complete. The headliner needs to be replaced. There is an obvious leak on
the front right side, and it's ruined everything below it. Front seats are
ratty, etc. It needs to be gone through but it is complete.
Anyone interested in pics? Email me
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL
www.GMC-Guy.com
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Bridges
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] John Shotwell and all - New Entry?
Looks like a thou in wheels... if the tires are in date and the inside isn't
ruint, a reasonable price. If he asks 1500. he'll watch it leave for a
thou. Assuming it's close enough for you to get home without going broke in
the process. For 5 -6 Large you could do a Manny Tranny and a built engine.
10-12 you could rehab the running gear all up if the frame is good. What's
the inside look like? Passable?
--johnny
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'76 23' transmode Norris upfit
Braselton, Ga.
"Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my dirty
life and times" --Warren Zevon
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| Re: [GMCnet] John Shotwell and all - New Entry? [message #294309 is a reply to message #294298] |
Sun, 24 January 2016 14:32 |
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Guy Lopes wrote on Sun, 24 January 2016 11:07I first saw this GMC on the FB site. I'm communicating with the owner now.
1977 Birchaven by Coachman - $1,500 in WA
TZE337V101182
Engine doesn't run. Needs a lot of work. But it appears to all be there.
https://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/rvs/5410075767.html
I have pics that the owner sent me if anyone wants me to forward them.
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA It most likely won't need a new engine, just fix the leak (valve cover gasket, pan gasket, seal, whatever). BUT...
It is sitting with the wheels buried up to the body and one side, and the frame on the other. If the frame is not already rusted out, it will be shortly.
If those are alloy wheels and not covers, it is worth about what he is asking if someone lives close enough and has a trailer to get it home. The frame probably being rotten, it would not be worth hiring someone to transport it anywhere.
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| Re: [GMCnet] John Shotwell and all - New Entry? [message #294315 is a reply to message #294309] |
Sun, 24 January 2016 15:17 |
Glover, Brian K.
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I am new to all this, just recently buying my GMC, but I have been looking for awnings and there a couple thousand dollars,,, also sooner or later want to replace right hand windshield ,,, I think there $ 500 each so on and on ,,,,if you got the time it's worth looking at ,,, if not for restoration you could always part out ?! Hate to loose one but could help build a couple others s ?
Just my two cents
Brian
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> On Jan 24, 2016, at 3:33 PM, A. wrote:
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> Guy Lopes wrote on Sun, 24 January 2016 11:07
>> I first saw this GMC on the FB site. I'm communicating with the owner now.
>> 1977 Birchaven by Coachman - $1,500 in WA
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>> TZE337V101182
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>> Engine doesn't run. Needs a lot of work. But it appears to all be there.
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>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/rvs/5410075767.html
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>> I have pics that the owner sent me if anyone wants me to forward them.
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>> Guy Lopes
>> 76 Birchaven "Orion"
>> Sacramento, CA
> It most likely won't need a new engine, just fix the leak (valve cover gasket, pan gasket, seal, whatever). BUT...
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> It is sitting with the wheels buried up to the body and one side, and the frame on the other. If the frame is not already rusted out, it will be
> shortly.
>
> If those are alloy wheels and not covers, it is worth about what he is asking if someone lives close enough and has a trailer to get it home. The
> frame probably being rotten, it would not be worth hiring someone to transport it anywhere.
> --
> '73 23' Sequoia For Sale
> '73 23' CanyonLands Parts Unit For Sale
> Upper Alabama
> Why don't they sell spray paint that washes off with soap and water for graffiti vandals to use?
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| Re: [GMCnet] John Shotwell and all - New Entry? [message #294321 is a reply to message #294309] |
Sun, 24 January 2016 16:27 |
Guy Lopes
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Mark,
You're assuming that the frame is rusted. That hasn't been determined yet.
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL
www.GMC-Guy.com
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Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 12:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] John Shotwell and all - New Entry?
Guy Lopes wrote on Sun, 24 January 2016 11:07
> I first saw this GMC on the FB site. I'm communicating with the owner now.
> 1977 Birchaven by Coachman - $1,500 in WA
>
> TZE337V101182
>
> Engine doesn't run. Needs a lot of work. But it appears to all be there.
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/rvs/5410075767.html
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> I have pics that the owner sent me if anyone wants me to forward them.
>
> Guy Lopes
> 76 Birchaven "Orion"
> Sacramento, CA
It most likely won't need a new engine, just fix the leak (valve cover
gasket, pan gasket, seal, whatever). BUT...
It is sitting with the wheels buried up to the body and one side, and the
frame on the other. If the frame is not already rusted out, it will be
shortly.
If those are alloy wheels and not covers, it is worth about what he is
asking if someone lives close enough and has a trailer to get it home. The
frame probably being rotten, it would not be worth hiring someone to
transport it anywhere.
--
'73 23' Sequoia For Sale
'73 23' CanyonLands Parts Unit For Sale
Upper Alabama
Why don't they sell spray paint that washes off with soap and water for
graffiti vandals to use?
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| Re: [GMCnet] John Shotwell and all - New Entry? [message #294335 is a reply to message #294298] |
Sun, 24 January 2016 18:39 |
Ken Henderson
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Ratty as it looks, including the missing A/C cover, with the Alcoas it
appears to have and the Ragusa step, $1000 might be reasonable -- for
someone close enough/skilled enough to get it running to drive it home --
or to the closest junkyard that will accept it.
Ken H.
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Guy Lopes wrote:
> I first saw this GMC on the FB site. I'm communicating with the owner now.
>
> 1977 Birchaven by Coachman - $1,500 in WA
>
> TZE337V101182
>
> Engine doesn't run. Needs a lot of work. But it appears to all be there.
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/rvs/5410075767.html
>
> I have pics that the owner sent me if anyone wants me to forward them.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] John Shotwell and all - New Entry? [message #294392 is a reply to message #294376] |
Mon, 25 January 2016 14:15 |
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John,
Does the registry note the state of the coach? IE - useable / scrapped / under restoration / etc?
I can never remember if the total built was 12,921 or 12,941; which is it? Or is it a different number?
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: John Shotwell
Guy,
Thanks for the heads up on this Birchaven. The coach was not listed in the Registry! Another new one.
That makes the total listings in the data base 8,605.
The coach is now listed, with a picture, with the finder's credit going to you :)
Thanks again,
John
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| Re: [GMCnet] John Shotwell and all - New Entry? [message #294394 is a reply to message #294392] |
Mon, 25 January 2016 14:20 |
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According to Bill Bryant....12,921
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On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Robert Mueller
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> John,
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> Does the registry note the state of the coach? IE - useable / scrapped /
> under restoration / etc?
>
> I can never remember if the total built was 12,921 or 12,941; which is it?
> Or is it a different number?
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Shotwell
>
> Guy,
> Thanks for the heads up on this Birchaven. The coach was not listed in the
> Registry! Another new one.
>
> That makes the total listings in the data base 8,605.
>
> The coach is now listed, with a picture, with the finder's credit going to
> you :)
>
> Thanks again,
> John
> t.org
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| Re: [GMCnet] John Shotwell and all - New Entry? [message #294415 is a reply to message #294392] |
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USAussie wrote on Mon, 25 January 2016 15:15John,
Does the registry note the state of the coach? IE - useable / scrapped / under restoration / etc?
I can never remember if the total built was 12,921 or 12,941; which is it? Or is it a different number?
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Rob,
Sometimes it does, but in the case of this coach, and as stated in the reply to Guy, the listing was / is new, therefore there was no existing info about it. This coach certainly looks like it has seen better days. The only way I can put such info in the "Comments" field is if the PO, Bob D. for example, notes that their coach was destroyed by fire, or the PO is using it as a parts coach, or whatever. Then the coach is listed as *GONE*, but still remains in the data base. Also, I do retain a picture of each coach, if it is available.
John
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Ridgeville Corners, OH
78 Royale Center Kitchen
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| Re: [GMCnet] John Shotwell and all - New Entry? [message #294417 is a reply to message #294415] |
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John,
Sorry for the half assed question; I should have said could you do a sort on condition of the coach so we could see how many are
scrapped, wrecked, operating, restored, GONE, etc?
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: John Shotwell
Rob,
Sometimes it does, but in the case of this coach, and as stated in the reply to Guy, the listing was / is new, therefore there was
no existing info about it. This coach certainly looks like it has seen better days. The only way I can put such info in the
"Comments" field is if the PO, Bob D. for example, notes that their coach was destroyed by fire, or the PO is using it as a parts
coach, or whatever. Then the coach is listed as *GONE*, but still remains in the data base. Also, I do retain a picture of each
coach, if it is available.
John
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| Re: [GMCnet] John Shotwell and all - New Entry? [message #294424 is a reply to message #294417] |
Mon, 25 January 2016 21:41 |
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> On Jan 25, 2016, at 6:41 PM, Robert Mueller wrote:
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> John,
>
> Sorry for the half assed question; I should have said could you do a sort on condition of the coach so we could see how many are
> scrapped, wrecked, operating, restored, GONE, etc?
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Shotwell
>
> Rob,
> Sometimes it does, but in the case of this coach, and as stated in the reply to Guy, the listing was / is new, therefore there was
> no existing info about it. This coach certainly looks like it has seen better days. The only way I can put such info in the
> "Comments" field is if the PO, Bob D. for example, notes that their coach was destroyed by fire, or the PO is using it as a parts
> coach, or whatever. Then the coach is listed as *GONE*, but still remains in the data base. Also, I do retain a picture of each
> coach, if it is available.
>
> John
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| Re: [GMCnet] John Shotwell and all - New Entry? [message #294528 is a reply to message #294517] |
Wed, 27 January 2016 04:43 |
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You say younger a key to tow it. Is that just to unlock the shift lever? If so, you can just disconnect the shift linkage at the transmission and manually shift it there.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Jan 26, 2016, at 9:51 PM, dansquarehead@gmail.com wrote:
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> Well drove down and bought the birchaven pretty much as expected frame just some surface rust everything there put a couple valves in the bags raised it up blew up the tires Michelans in great shape as are the alcoas engine looked pretty rough water pump generator off dip stick tube kinda dangeling but wtf a grand wheels and tires were worth that total gut job coming up only problem no key so can't tow it just yet , any body have any ideas on getting a key
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>> On Jan 24, 2016, at 9:07 AM, Guy Lopes wrote:
>>
>> I first saw this GMC on the FB site. I'm communicating with the owner now.
>>
>> 1977 Birchaven by Coachman - $1,500 in WA
>>
>> TZE337V101182
>>
>> Engine doesn't run. Needs a lot of work. But it appears to all be there.
>>
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/rvs/5410075767.html
>>
>> I have pics that the owner sent me if anyone wants me to forward them.
>>
>> Guy Lopes
>> 76 Birchaven "Orion"
>> Sacramento, CA
>> W6TOL
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>> www.GMC-Guy.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] John Shotwell and all - New Entry? [message #294535 is a reply to message #294517] |
Wed, 27 January 2016 07:48 |
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Why do you need a key to tow it? The best way to tow it is with a
wheel-lift truck, so if the front wheels are not turned sharply, there
should be no problem. If you DO use a wheel-lift, be sure the driver
adjusts the wheel lift spacing high enough to leave clearance between the
tow boom and the bottom of the radiator -- you don't need to start your
project with a radiator replacement.
JWID,
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc.
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On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:51 PM, wrote:
> Well drove down and bought the birchaven pretty much as expected frame
> just some surface rust everything there put a couple valves in the bags
> raised it up blew up the tires Michelans in great shape as are the alcoas
> engine looked pretty rough water pump generator off dip stick tube kinda
> dangeling but wtf a grand wheels and tires were worth that total gut job
> coming up only problem no key so can't tow it just yet , any body have any
> ideas on getting a key
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] John Shotwell and all - New Entry? [message #294545 is a reply to message #294535] |
Wed, 27 January 2016 09:54 |
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Ken, I thought the best way to tow was with a flat bed ,I wanted to get it out of its grave and get it on the side of the road before the tow truck got there , that was my thinking at least while I was waiting for the owner it was pouring down rain found some old soap in the coach and gave it a bath
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> On Jan 27, 2016, at 5:48 AM, Ken Henderson wrote:
>
> Why do you need a key to tow it? The best way to tow it is with a
> wheel-lift truck, so if the front wheels are not turned sharply, there
> should be no problem. If you DO use a wheel-lift, be sure the driver
> adjusts the wheel lift spacing high enough to leave clearance between the
> tow boom and the bottom of the radiator -- you don't need to start your
> project with a radiator replacement.
>
> JWID,
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
> Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc.
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
>
>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:51 PM, wrote:
>>
>> Well drove down and bought the birchaven pretty much as expected frame
>> just some surface rust everything there put a couple valves in the bags
>> raised it up blew up the tires Michelans in great shape as are the alcoas
>> engine looked pretty rough water pump generator off dip stick tube kinda
>> dangeling but wtf a grand wheels and tires were worth that total gut job
>> coming up only problem no key so can't tow it just yet , any body have any
>> ideas on getting a key
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