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New Heat Exchanging Water Heater - Installation Question [message #294161] Fri, 22 January 2016 08:36 Go to next message
SteveW is currently offline  SteveW   United States
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Greetings !

I just purchased an Atwood GEH9-EXT Gas and Electric with Heat Exchanger XT 6 Gallon DSI Water Heater (90068).

http:// www.amazon.com/Atwood-GEH9-EXT-Electric-Exchanger-Gallon/dp/B00CLSUIU6/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1453472812&sr=1-1&keywords= Atwood+GEH9-EXT+Gas+and+Electric+with+Heat+Exchanger+XT+6+Gallon+DSI+Water+Heater+90068

It seems to be a pretty nice unit... it superheats the 6 gallons and then dispenses it through a thermostatically controlled mixing valve (mixes with cold stream) yielding 9 gallons of hot water.

I'm aware of the "T" fitting on the rear of the engine on the passenger side to get hot engine coolant... I'll run a line from there to the water heater.

But where should I plumb in the return ?? Another "T" in the heater hot water return line ??

I've also installed a ball valve to block flow to the firewall mounted heater / AC unit. When that valve is closed - will that also block flow to the water heater ?

I'd prefer not to reinvent something here... Could anyone please share a quick description of how the "factory" heat exchanging water heaters were plumbed ??

As always, THANK YOU ALL for the wealth of information shared here.

Steve W
1973 23'
Southern California







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Re: New Heat Exchanging Water Heater - Installation Question [message #294162 is a reply to message #294161] Fri, 22 January 2016 09:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JohnS is currently offline  JohnS   United States
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My 77 came with (and still has) engine pre-heat for the house water heater. One line, as you noted, is from a tee at the back of the block. The other is from a tee placed in the line which goes between the engine water pump and the cabin heater. That tee is very close to the curb side of the radiator housing. If your ball valve is between that tee and the cabin heater, you'll still get house water pre-heat.

Always liked having hot water when we stopped.


John Shutzbaugh, Vacaville, CA, ncserv@aol.com; 78 Buskirk stretch, "What were we thinking?"
Re: New Heat Exchanging Water Heater - Installation Question [message #294164 is a reply to message #294161] Fri, 22 January 2016 15:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Steve

You may be aware -- the discharge at the rear of the engine has a restriction washer in it -- flow is reduced to about a 1/4 inch.

Dennis

SteveW wrote on Fri, 22 January 2016 08:36
Greetings !

I just purchased an Atwood GEH9-EXT Gas and Electric with Heat Exchanger XT 6 Gallon DSI Water Heater (90068).

http:// www.amazon.com/Atwood-GEH9-EXT-Electric-Exchanger-Gallon/dp/B00CLSUIU6/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1453472812&sr=1-1&keywords= Atwood+GEH9-EXT+Gas+and+Electric+with+Heat+Exchanger+XT+6+Gallon+DSI+Water+Heater+90068

It seems to be a pretty nice unit... it superheats the 6 gallons and then dispenses it through a thermostatically controlled mixing valve (mixes with cold stream) yielding 9 gallons of hot water.

I'm aware of the "T" fitting on the rear of the engine on the passenger side to get hot engine coolant... I'll run a line from there to the water heater.

But where should I plumb in the return ?? Another "T" in the heater hot water return line ??

I've also installed a ball valve to block flow to the firewall mounted heater / AC unit. When that valve is closed - will that also block flow to the water heater ?

I'd prefer not to reinvent something here... Could anyone please share a quick description of how the "factory" heat exchanging water heaters were plumbed ??

As always, THANK YOU ALL for the wealth of information shared here.

Steve W
1973 23'
Southern California








Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
Re: [GMCnet] New Heat Exchanging Water Heater - InstallationQuestion [message #294179 is a reply to message #294164] Fri, 22 January 2016 17:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Dennis,

Here's a photo of the orifice:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/engine-cooling-photos/p47788-manifold-heater-connection-port.html

It is large enough for the engine cooling water to raise the temperature in the house water heater higher than the temp/pressure
relief valve. If you connect shore water and turn it on the water heater will vent water out the relief valve until the temp of the
water in the heater drops below the temperature relief valve setting. The same thing will happen if you turn on the house water
pump.

Regards,
Rob M.


-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Sexton

Steve

You may be aware -- the discharge at the rear of the engine has a restriction washer in it -- flow is reduced to about a 1/4 inch.

Dennis



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Re: New Heat Exchanging Water Heater - Installation Question [message #294187 is a reply to message #294161] Fri, 22 January 2016 21:16 Go to previous message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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Just find both hoses that go to the cabin heater. Put tees in both of them connect you hoses running to the house water to those tees.

You can install the cabin heater shutoff valve anywhere in either of the hoses running to cabin heater. I have mine mounted up front near the heater core itself. I like it there because I can open the right hood and easily turn the ball valve off or on.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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