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REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293719] Mon, 11 January 2016 12:30 Go to next message
Glover, Brian K. is currently offline  Glover, Brian K.   United States
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I made my rear seating area a permenant bed, in doing so I got rid of the top aft cabinet. now I am trying to install a curtain in the rear of the coach and would like ideas ? not sure what kind of structure there is to attact hardware to the back shell ? or any ideas on putting up curtains in the rear ? would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Brian
1978 Eleganza II


Brian G. Griffin Ga. 1978 Eleganza II TZE168V101637
Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293751 is a reply to message #293719] Mon, 11 January 2016 20:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Brian

If you still have that aft overhead cabinet, I'd be interested in buying it from you. Is it the one that goes across the rear of
the coach from side to side?

Billy Massey


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Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 12:30 PM

I made my rear seating area a permenant bed, in doing so I got rid of the top aft cabinet. now I am trying to install a curtain in
the rear of the
coach and would like ideas ? not sure what kind of structure there is to attact hardware to the back shell ? or any ideas on putting
up curtains in
the rear ? would be appreciated.

Thanks,


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Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293753 is a reply to message #293751] Mon, 11 January 2016 21:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The famous fishing pole cabinet, have that and the gun cabinet in my coach

Len and Pat Novak
1978 GMC Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ?

Hi Brian

If you still have that aft overhead cabinet, I'd be interested in buying it
from you. Is it the one that goes across the rear of the coach from side to
side?

Billy Massey


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From: On Behalf Of Glover
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 12:30 PM

I made my rear seating area a permenant bed, in doing so I got rid of the
top aft cabinet. now I am trying to install a curtain in
the rear of the
coach and would like ideas ? not sure what kind of structure there is to
attact hardware to the back shell ? or any ideas on putting up curtains in
the rear ? would be appreciated.

Thanks,


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Re: REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293773 is a reply to message #293719] Tue, 12 January 2016 19:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My rear curtains are hung on I beam curtain rods. The 3 brackets are fastened with vertical screws into the top rim of the rear window. There is another similar rod at the bottom. The curtain has elastic loops around the bottom rod

Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.
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Re: REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293774 is a reply to message #293719] Tue, 12 January 2016 20:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We used Levelor cellular blinds throughout our coach including the rear window. I made valences that hold them at the same angle as the glass. It's all CAREFULLY screwed into the plastic inner cap. I drilled a hole and then screwed in the screw so it did not crack the plastic. Works great.

Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293780 is a reply to message #293773] Wed, 13 January 2016 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the idea ! was looking for structure in the back wall around the window but couldn't find anything so may go with your plan !

Thanks

Brian


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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ?

My rear curtains are hung on I beam curtain rods. The 3 brackets are fastened with vertical screws into the top rim of the rear window. There is
another similar rod at the bottom. The curtain has elastic loops around the bottom rod
--
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ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.
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Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293781 is a reply to message #293774] Wed, 13 January 2016 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I used the blinds up front, because there is plenty of structure to attach to , but in the rear around the window I couldn't really find anything ! guess I should have taken a picture of the structure when I had the rear plastic cap out !!

You wouldn't happen to have any photos ? so I could get a visual !!

Thanks,

Brian

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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Kerry Pinkerton
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 9:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ?

We used Levelor cellular blinds throughout our coach including the rear window. I made valences that hold them at the same angle as the glass. It's
all CAREFULLY screwed into the plastic inner cap. I drilled a hole and then screwed in the screw so it did not crack the plastic. Works great.
--
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama

77 Eleganza II, 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny, lots of aluminum goodies.

http://www.bdub.net/pinkerton/

'03 Fleetwood Discovery 39L

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Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293782 is a reply to message #293781] Wed, 13 January 2016 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There's no structure to screw to. Unless you made provisions while the cap
was down, all you've got is the plastic.

I cut oak blocks that were a snug fit in four sections along the top of the
window. I glued and screwed them in place. Then, I had plenty to fasten
to, behind the cap, when I installed the blinds brackets.

Billy


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From: Gmclist On Behalf Of Glover, Brian K.
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:11 AM

I used the blinds up front, because there is plenty of structure to attach
to , but in the rear around the window I couldn't really find anything !
guess I should have taken a picture of the structure when I had the rear
plastic cap out !!

You wouldn't happen to have any photos ? so I could get a visual !!


-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist On Behalf Of Kerry Pinkerton
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 9:11 PM

We used Levelor cellular blinds throughout our coach including the rear
window. I made valences that hold them at the same angle as the glass.
It's all CAREFULLY screwed into the plastic inner cap. I drilled a hole and
then screwed in the screw so it did not crack the plastic. Works great.




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Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293783 is a reply to message #293782] Wed, 13 January 2016 10:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Glover, Brian K. is currently offline  Glover, Brian K.   United States
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Well that answers my question,,, there is no structure to crew to ! so I will work with that !!

Thanks,

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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Billy Massey
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 11:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ?

There's no structure to screw to. Unless you made provisions while the cap
was down, all you've got is the plastic.

I cut oak blocks that were a snug fit in four sections along the top of the
window. I glued and screwed them in place. Then, I had plenty to fasten
to, behind the cap, when I installed the blinds brackets.

Billy


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From: Gmclist On Behalf Of Glover, Brian K.
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:11 AM

I used the blinds up front, because there is plenty of structure to attach
to , but in the rear around the window I couldn't really find anything !
guess I should have taken a picture of the structure when I had the rear
plastic cap out !!

You wouldn't happen to have any photos ? so I could get a visual !!


-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist On Behalf Of Kerry Pinkerton
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 9:11 PM

We used Levelor cellular blinds throughout our coach including the rear
window. I made valences that hold them at the same angle as the glass.
It's all CAREFULLY screwed into the plastic inner cap. I drilled a hole and
then screwed in the screw so it did not crack the plastic. Works great.




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Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293784 is a reply to message #293783] Wed, 13 January 2016 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Brian

When I installed insulated shades in my back windows I used tubular inserts such as these
https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/11120361

I actually bought them in the automotive fastener area of AutoZone.

There is a lip in the molded covering that goes above the window.
I just drilled holes into the horizontal area and pushed in the inserts. They will hold a sheet metal screw very well.

Mine have been in place for 15 years now and holding well. I have had to tighten the screws a couple of times
as they can vibrate loose over a long period of time.

One nice thing is that you don’t have to remove the rear plastic covering to do this.
There is nothing behind it to hold a screw so the inserts work well and they will take the weight of shades.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO


> On Jan 13, 2016, at 9:44 AM, Glover, Brian K. wrote:
>
> Well that answers my question,,, there is no structure to crew to ! so I will work with that !!
>
> Thanks,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Billy Massey
> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 11:33 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ?
>
> There's no structure to screw to. Unless you made provisions while the cap
> was down, all you've got is the plastic.
>
> I cut oak blocks that were a snug fit in four sections along the top of the
> window. I glued and screwed them in place. Then, I had plenty to fasten
> to, behind the cap, when I installed the blinds brackets.
>
> Billy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist On Behalf Of Glover, Brian K.
> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:11 AM
>
> I used the blinds up front, because there is plenty of structure to attach
> to , but in the rear around the window I couldn't really find anything !
> guess I should have taken a picture of the structure when I had the rear
> plastic cap out !!
>
> You wouldn't happen to have any photos ? so I could get a visual !!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist On Behalf Of Kerry Pinkerton
> Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 9:11 PM
>
> We used Levelor cellular blinds throughout our coach including the rear
> window. I made valences that hold them at the same angle as the glass.
> It's all CAREFULLY screwed into the plastic inner cap. I drilled a hole and
> then screwed in the screw so it did not crack the plastic. Works great.
>
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293786 is a reply to message #293751] Wed, 13 January 2016 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Glover, Brian K. is currently offline  Glover, Brian K.   United States
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Sounds like a good plan especially for the cold weather ! my big thing is mounting to the fiberglass structure ? and make sure they don't pull out of the surround, sounds like Emory had a good idea with the inserts,, right now I have nothing up so I am trying to come up with a way to mount curtains / blinds to the plastic rear cap.

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Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:51 PM
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Subject: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ?

On our Clasco the rear blinds are the narrow aluminum slats. They look great but rattle against the window if touched and provide no insulation. To solve both issues we purchased some inexpensive black out insulated drapes longer than the width of the rear window and wider than the height (Walmart as I recall). I sewed hems to size the drape so it would ride inside the valance and then sewed tabs that would wrap around the bottom bar and attach back to the drape with hook and loop stuff. With the blinds down and open we can see through for driving. With the binds drawn up the blackout/insulated drape covers the window. Three issues solved. The soft drape does not rattle against the window, the insulation solves the cold/draft issue and the blackout material makes the rear area much darker for sleeping. Simple and inexpensive, but very effective. You could do the same thing for the side windows if those are an issue for you. They are not for us.

Jerry
Jerry Work
The Dovetail Joint
Fine furniture designed and hand crafted in the 1907 former Masonic Temple building in historic Kerby, OR

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We used Levelor cellular blinds throughout our coach including the rear window. I made valences that hold them at the same angle as the glass. It's
all CAREFULLY screwed into the plastic inner cap. I drilled a hole and then screwed in the screw so it did not crack the plastic. Works great.
--
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama

77 Eleganza II, 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny, lots of aluminum goodies.

http://www.bdub.net/pinkerton/

'03 Fleetwood Discovery 39L

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Re: REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293807 is a reply to message #293719] Wed, 13 January 2016 19:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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We're out of town for a few weeks and won't be able to take photos. This is a photo from one of my albums that may help you:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/new-cabinets-2finterior-mods/p55811-interior-mods-000041.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6502/Interior_mods_000041.jpg

The album has other photos that may help you:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6502-new-cabinets-2finterior-mods.html

My rear cap was pretty yellowed and I took it out and fixed some cracks and painted it. It WILL come out but you have to work it carefully to get it going down the hall. I fixed the cracks with automotive panel adhesive but epoxe would work. It would be easy to glue some structure if you wanted. The point is, it ain't no big thing.

One thing I'd suggest is to put something at the bottom so cold air won't run down the glass and flow across you as you sleep. Easy to put a bottom structure in the frame to close it up. Do the same type of thing at the top and it won't leak light either.


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293809 is a reply to message #293719] Wed, 13 January 2016 19:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh, forgot to mention we got the Levolor blinds at Lowes. They will cut to width free and they have a lifetime warranty. We've had a couple quit working and they were replaced with no problem. We chose the cordless version that has a button on the bottom and no exposed cords.

One comment is that Lowes receipts are printed with ink that becomes invisible in a few months. With lifetime warranty stuff like this, make a copy, take a photo, etc. Ours faded to nothing and they worked with us to go back nearly a year using my 'myLowes' account to find the receipt and print me a duplicate.

Home Depot, Menards, etc will have the same blinds and probably the same policy.


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Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293820 is a reply to message #293807] Thu, 14 January 2016 06:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Glover, Brian K. is currently offline  Glover, Brian K.   United States
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Thanks a lot, just looking for options !!
Thanks again.

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> On Jan 13, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
>
> We're out of town for a few weeks and won't be able to take photos. This is a photo from one of my albums that may help you:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/new-cabinets-2finterior-mods/p55811-interior-mods-000041.html
>
>
> The album has other photos that may help you:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6502-new-cabinets-2finterior-mods.html
>
> My rear cap was pretty yellowed and I took it out and fixed some cracks and painted it. It WILL come out but you have to work it carefully to get it
> going down the hall. I fixed the cracks with automotive panel adhesive but epoxe would work. It would be easy to glue some structure if you wanted.
> The point is, it ain't no big thing.
>
> One thing I'd suggest is to put something at the bottom so cold air won't run down the glass and flow across you as you sleep. Easy to put a bottom
> structure in the frame to close it up. Do the same type of thing at the top and it won't leak light either.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
>
> 77 Eleganza II, 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny, lots of aluminum goodies.
>
> http://www.bdub.net/pinkerton/
>
> '03 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293821 is a reply to message #293820] Thu, 14 January 2016 06:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As we only use the rear compartment for sleeping I decided that I rather not have the large window in the rear and thus a little more privacy
I covered the outside wirh wrap in the same color as the coach. Inside covered with 4 mm plywood and painted same as inside cap. One could insulate with the risk of a cracking window becourse og build up of heath


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Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293823 is a reply to message #293821] Thu, 14 January 2016 07:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Glover, Brian K. is currently offline  Glover, Brian K.   United States
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Never thought of that idea !! Will think about it too ?! You don't have any photos ? I always like a visual to help see what it looks like and how to do it ?!

Thanks

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> On Jan 14, 2016, at 7:59 AM, lenze middelberg wrote:
>
> As we only use the rear compartment for sleeping I decided that I rather not have the large window in the rear and thus a little more privacy
> I covered the outside wirh wrap in the same color as the coach. Inside covered with 4 mm plywood and painted same as inside cap. One could insulate
> with the risk of a cracking window becourse og build up of heath
> --
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> 6 wheel discbrake
> Quadrabags
> Springfield stage 2 462 olds
> Manny tranny
> ( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html
> Fulltiming in Europe since july 1 2014
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Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293831 is a reply to message #293823] Thu, 14 January 2016 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Brian. Send you some pictures by email

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Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293833 is a reply to message #293831] Thu, 14 January 2016 10:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One could always have a company that makes the silver shades for car
Windows to make some that fit the Windows in the back bedroom.
Sammy
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Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ? [message #293835 is a reply to message #293833] Thu, 14 January 2016 11:08 Go to previous message
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 10:13:45 -0600
> From: bd5av8r@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] REAR CURTAINS ?
>
> One could always have a company that makes the silver shades for car
> Windows to make some that fit the Windows in the back bedroom.
> Sammy


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