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USAussie
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Carl,
Bill Bryant is the GMCer that put that DVD together, he's the only person that might be able to help you.
I have Cc'd him directly on this response.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Carl
I expect that most of you may already have the DVD conversion of the GMC Motorhome Dealer Training System and have noticed that a
few of the videos are missing the audio portion.
It's fun to watch, I finally learned why GM put the fuel filler at the front instead of the back ... :lol:
I am trying to complete the Motorhome Service Training Video set and need your help to find the missing audio.
For those not familiar with the Bell and Howell Filmosound system , here is how it worked.
Each training tape is comprised of a 35MM film roll and an Audio Cassette. When played in the Bell and Howell system, the Film Roll
advances in synchronization with the cassette audio.
The reason your DVD version of the Training series is missing some of the narrations , is because the Audio Cassette is missing.
If anyone knows of someone that has parts of this training series, please pass along my contact information.
If I can get the series completed, I will digitally remaster the series and make available for download.
Here is what a few of the tapes look like, you will notice a 35MM film holder attached to an audio cassette:
Carl
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome - Dealer Training System [message #293376 is a reply to message #293371] |
Sun, 03 January 2016 17:39 |
bryant374
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Rob & Carl,
Sorry to say I am not the guy with the Dealer Training Films. I do have the 2 CD set which, if I recall correctly, Tom Lins was the guy that I bought it from. He is the same guy that digitized the GMC manuals and lives in NJ.
Back a few years ago I know that Dave Greenburg had an incomplete film set and a non functioning projector (mice had chewed wires). I had suggested to Tom at the time he might want to check with Dave to see if he might end up with a more complete film set. I don't know if any of that happened. Seems to me that Dave also knew of another film set, but I may be confusing it with the films he actually bought. Check with him on the details.
Good luck with your search,
Bill
Bill Bryant
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome - Dealer Training System [message #293377 is a reply to message #293376] |
Sun, 03 January 2016 17:44 |
James Hupy
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Greg Birch MAY have a set. GREG, are you monitoring the net, or watching
the Seahawks like me. It is snowing here. 20 something. WTF?
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Jan 3, 2016 3:40 PM, "Bill Bryant" wrote:
> Rob & Carl,
>
> Sorry to say I am not the guy with the Dealer Training Films. I do have
> the 2 CD set which, if I recall correctly, Tom Lins was the guy that I
> bought
> it from. He is the same guy that digitized the GMC manuals and lives in NJ.
>
> Back a few years ago I know that Dave Greenburg had an incomplete film set
> and a non functioning projector (mice had chewed wires). I had suggested to
> Tom at the time he might want to check with Dave to see if he might end up
> with a more complete film set. I don't know if any of that happened. Seems
> to me that Dave also knew of another film set, but I may be confusing it
> with the films he actually bought. Check with him on the details.
>
> Good luck with your search,
> Bill
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> 1976~PB
> 1914 Ford
> 1965 Corvette
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome - Dealer Training System [message #293378 is a reply to message #293376] |
Sun, 03 January 2016 18:29 |
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USAussie
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OOPS!
Can someone forward this to Tom Lins, I don't have his email address.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Bryant
Rob & Carl,
Sorry to say I am not the guy with the Dealer Training Films. I do have the 2 CD set which, if I recall correctly, Tom Lins was the
guy that I bought it from. He is the same guy that digitized the GMC manuals and lives in NJ.
Back a few years ago I know that Dave Greenburg had an incomplete film set and a non functioning projector (mice had chewed wires).
I had suggested to Tom at the time he might want to check with Dave to see if he might end up with a more complete film set. I
don't know if any of that happened. Seems to me that Dave also knew of another film set, but I may be confusing it with the films he
actually bought. Check with him on the details.
Good luck with your search,
Bill
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome - Dealer Training System [message #293379 is a reply to message #293378] |
Sun, 03 January 2016 20:53 |
Dennis S
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Rob
I sent a note to the email I have.
Dennis
USAussie wrote on Sun, 03 January 2016 18:29OOPS!
Can someone forward this to Tom Lins, I don't have his email address.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Bryant
Rob & Carl,
Sorry to say I am not the guy with the Dealer Training Films. I do have the 2 CD set which, if I recall correctly, Tom Lins was the
guy that I bought it from. He is the same guy that digitized the GMC manuals and lives in NJ.
Back a few years ago I know that Dave Greenburg had an incomplete film set and a non functioning projector (mice had chewed wires).
I had suggested to Tom at the time he might want to check with Dave to see if he might end up with a more complete film set. I
don't know if any of that happened. Seems to me that Dave also knew of another film set, but I may be confusing it with the films he
actually bought. Check with him on the details.
Good luck with your search,
Bill
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| Re: GMC Motorhome - Dealer Training System [message #293380 is a reply to message #293362] |
Sun, 03 January 2016 22:14 |
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Rob & James,
Thanks for the help, the system I am working with is from Tom Lins, he provided all of the items he had.
I will try to make contact with Dave Greenburg and Greg Birch.
If anyone, should be in touch with them, please let them know what we are searching.
Carl Harr : Driver NASCAR Pro Series #2
1978 Gadabout-Restoring
1978 Palm Beach
1976 Glenbrook
Prevost Featherlite H3-45
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome - Dealer Training System [message #293399 is a reply to message #293396] |
Mon, 04 January 2016 08:31 |
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Forest said that they really didn't have room for that kind of stuff and he's afraid that they'd just lose it or let it get ruined. He suggested a devoted GMCer take ownership for safe keeping.
I was outbid.
bdub
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From: Gmclist On Behalf Of gene Fisher
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 8:09 AM
And ?
On Monday, January 4, 2016, Billy Massey wrote:
> Yes. I did.
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> bdub
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist On Behalf Of Matt Colie
> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 6:19 AM
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> Did anybody contact the RV Hall of Fame in Elkhart. As I recall, their
> library has a large GMC collection.
> I would, but I really don't know what to ask for.
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome - Dealer Training System [message #293408 is a reply to message #293399] |
Mon, 04 January 2016 11:50 |
bryant374
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A couple of years ago Forest Crow (a docent at the Elkhart RV/MH museum) and I attempted to upgrade the 1974 GMC MH on display and add to the GMC MH content of the library. I was able to get Wes Coughlin to donate a FULL SET of GMC MH Cinnabar service manuals & a set of his GMC News letters. Also got sets of GMC Western States news letters & a set of GMCMI news letters. These all reside (as of 4 yrs ago) in the libraries horizontal file cabinets, unmarked. There was little else in the library about GMC MHs at that time.
As some of you may know, I am in the process of finding new homes for my GMC MH Collectables. I have already given a large number of items to The GM Heritage Center, Sterling Heights, MI, will very soon be giving another batch to The Antique Automobile Club of America Library, Hershey, PA. Some of the residual may end up at the RV/MH Elkhart library, it originally had been my first choice due to location & purpose. I have visited there twice & agree with what others have said in the attached notes. The management did not seem interested in the GMC Motorhome, or improving it (very interested in current mfg'ers & contributors). The library was not well organized, and items did not appear to be secure, I even offered to fill an empty display case with GMC MH collectables, free, not interested.
In attempting to improve the 1974 GMC MH we had very limited success. The museum management was very restrictive in what could be done. It would be great if we could get a shroud for the Mark IV roof air, original seating upholstery covers, before they all get thrown away (forgot if it is a Canyon Lands or Painted Desert) and remove some of the original owner exterior stripes. Would be nice if we could get a work party together to improve things. There is new management now, maybe they could see the benefit.
Bill
Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome - Dealer Training System Mon, 04 January 2016 09:31
bdub
Karma:
Forest said that they really didn't have room for that kind of stuff and he's afraid that they'd just lose it or let it get ruined. He suggested a devoted GMCer take ownership for safe keeping.
I was outbid.
bdub
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From: Gmclist On Behalf Of gene Fisher
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 8:09 AM
And ?
On Monday, January 4, 2016, Billy Massey wrote:
> Yes. I did.
>
> bdub
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist On Behalf Of Matt Colie
> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 6:19 AM
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> Did anybody contact the RV Hall of Fame in Elkhart. As I recall, their
> library has a large GMC collection.
> I would, but I really don't know what to ask for.
>
>
Bill Bryant
PO 1976~PB (owned 34 years)
1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
1965 Corvette (owned 39 years)
GMC Motorhome History
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome - Dealer Training System [message #293428 is a reply to message #293408] |
Mon, 04 January 2016 20:12 |
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mark grady
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We had our company Christmas party at the RV/MH museum. The '74 is a
Painted Desert.
Mark Grady
'77 + '78 Kingsley
On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Bill Bryant
wrote:
> A couple of years ago Forest Crow (a docent at the Elkhart RV/MH museum)
> and I attempted to upgrade the 1974 GMC MH on display and add to the GMC MH
> content of the library. I was able to get Wes Coughlin to donate a FULL
> SET of GMC MH Cinnabar service manuals & a set of his GMC News letters. Also
> got sets of GMC Western States news letters & a set of GMCMI news letters.
> These all reside (as of 4 yrs ago) in the libraries horizontal file
> cabinets, unmarked. There was little else in the library about GMC MHs at
> that time.
>
> As some of you may know, I am in the process of finding new homes for my
> GMC MH Collectables. I have already given a large number of items to The GM
> Heritage Center, Sterling Heights, MI, will very soon be giving another
> batch to The Antique Automobile Club of America Library, Hershey, PA. Some
> of
> the residual may end up at the RV/MH Elkhart library, it originally had
> been my first choice due to location & purpose. I have visited there twice
> &
> agree with what others have said in the attached notes. The management
> did not seem interested in the GMC Motorhome, or improving it (very
> interested
> in current mfg'ers & contributors). The library was not well organized,
> and items did not appear to be secure, I even offered to fill an empty
> display
> case with GMC MH collectables, free, not interested.
>
> In attempting to improve the 1974 GMC MH we had very limited success. The
> museum management was very restrictive in what could be done. It would be
> great if we could get a shroud for the Mark IV roof air, original seating
> upholstery covers, before they all get thrown away (forgot if it is a Canyon
> Lands or Painted Desert) and remove some of the original owner exterior
> stripes. Would be nice if we could get a work party together to improve
> things. There is new management now, maybe they could see the benefit.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome - Dealer Training System Mon, 04 January
> 2016 09:31
> bdub
> Karma:
> Forest said that they really didn't have room for that kind of stuff and
> he's afraid that they'd just lose it or let it get ruined. He suggested a
> devoted GMCer take ownership for safe keeping.
>
> I was outbid.
> bdub
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist On Behalf Of gene Fisher
> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 8:09 AM
>
> And ?
>
> On Monday, January 4, 2016, Billy Massey wrote:
>
>> Yes. I did.
>>
>> bdub
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gmclist On Behalf Of Matt Colie
>> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 6:19 AM
>>
>> Did anybody contact the RV Hall of Fame in Elkhart. As I recall, their
>> library has a large GMC collection.
>> I would, but I really don't know what to ask for.
>>
>>
> --
> Bill Bryant
> 1976~PB
> 1914 Ford
> 1965 Corvette
> GMC MH History CD & GMC Showroom DVD
> Workprint DVD GMC development 11-70 to 3-71
> http://bdub.net/billbryant/
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome - Dealer Training System [message #293444 is a reply to message #293443] |
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There has been a lot of conjecture about this over the years on the GMCnet. If you think back to the 1970's it was not uncommon to
have a guy that pumped your gas, cleaned your windshield, checked your oil, etc. Locating the filler port up under the driver's
window allowed him to chat with the driver while filling the tanks.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sawyer
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 8:31 AM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome - Dealer Training System
Care to enlighten a GMC newbie as to why its up front? I understand the fuel tanks are in the front\middle of the coach and not at
the back... Is that the reason? Hadn't really thought about the location being unusual till I read your comment...
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome - Dealer Training System [message #293445 is a reply to message #293444] |
Tue, 05 January 2016 17:52 |
bryant374
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Care to enlighten a GMC newbie as to why its up front? I understand the fuel tanks are in the front\middle of the coach and not at
the back... Is that the reason? Hadn't really thought about the location being unusual till I read your comment...
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Mark
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Hi Mark,
The reason for the forward fuel fill was to move as far from an ignition sources as possible. Examples, furnace, refrigerator, water heater, generator, etc. While building an empty MH (TransMode) GMC could not be sure where an ignition source might be placed. Up forward appears to be the safest.
Bill Bryant
PO 1976~PB (owned 34 years)
1914 Ford (owned 70 years)
1965 Corvette (owned 39 years)
GMC Motorhome History
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome - Dealer Training System [message #293449 is a reply to message #293444] |
Tue, 05 January 2016 22:04 |
Guy Lopes
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I had also heard somewhere that it was because they were going to offer the
GMC as a Transmode for others to outfit as an ambulance, post office,
showroom, etc. When they delivered it with a gutted interior for the company
to outfit, there was nothing protruding into the coach which would cause
them to have to allow for that in their own design. It was a blank canvas.
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL monitoring 146.52
Zello app Channel GMC MH
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Mueller
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 2:54 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Motorhome - Dealer Training System
There has been a lot of conjecture about this over the years on the GMCnet.
If you think back to the 1970's it was not uncommon to have a guy that
pumped your gas, cleaned your windshield, checked your oil, etc. Locating
the filler port up under the driver's window allowed him to chat with the
driver while filling the tanks.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
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