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| Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. I'm replacing the 12 volt fuse panel. Any ideas? [message #293056 is a reply to message #293054] |
Mon, 28 December 2015 15:30   |
Dolph Santorine
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I’m using a Marine panel, but that’s kewl. I like the blown fuse indicator LED’s.
Dolph
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
> On Dec 28, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Espen Heitmann wrote:
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> Found this on Ebay for my coach, from some kind of power center I guess
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> http://s1126.photobucket.com/user/Espen_Heitmann/media/1973%20Sequoia/IMG_2083_zpsiuzogczo.jpg.html
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> 1973 26'-3 # 1460 Parrot green Seqouia Known as the Big Mean Green Machine,
> And just sold my 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt trøbbel
> in Norway
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| Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. I'm replacing the 12 volt fuse panel. Any ideas? [message #293061 is a reply to message #293054] |
Mon, 28 December 2015 16:11 |
Adrien G.
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Location: Burns Flat, OK 73624
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Loffen,
That looks just like the 12v dc fuse board on the WFCO power center I installed.
More circuits available easy to get to. the pic in Amazon doesn't give it justice.
Adrien & Jenny Genesoto
75 Glenbrook (26-3) Mods LS3.70 FD / Reaction Sys / 80mm Front&Intermidiate / Hydroboost / 16" Tires / Frame Rebuild / Interior Rebuild
Yuba City,Ca. Text 530-nine-3-three-3-nine-nine-6
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| Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. I'm replacing the 12 volt fuse panel. Any ideas? [message #293062 is a reply to message #293061] |
Mon, 28 December 2015 16:35 |
77PBFinland
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Vote for Blue Seas products, nice marine grade quality. We usually use their products when we do refits and add new devices on our customers boats at work.
I used Blue Seas 12 ATO-fuse panel with ground bus bar when I chanced our GMC`s rear fuse panel at last winter. I used original wiring connectors, just cut about 1mm off from side and they fit fine.
It is screw terminal type which I prefer more, because time and heat will loosen flat blade type connectors easier (yeah, screws may loosen too if not used with nice tiny drop of locker).
Jake
Jarkko Lampinen
`77 Palm Beach TZE167V100508
Finland Europe
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| Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. I'm replacing the 12 volt fuse panel. Any ideas? [message #293070 is a reply to message #293020] |
Mon, 28 December 2015 17:58 |
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Matt Colie
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As many of you already know, I have been doing electrical work on boats for a very long time.
I have no love for fuses and most of my builds have been breaker, but I still often get paid to make what is there work.
If one is going to use ATC/APO/257 fuses, buy ONLY Buss/Bussman or Littlefuse. Many automotive stores sell the CCV of these and that are both kinds of undependable. By that I mean, that they may either fail to carry rated current or not fail in the case of greater than rated current. The one thing I do not like about ATC fuse panels is that the fuse holders do corrode and/or loose tension and both are difficult to correct.
This does not mean AGC/3AG/SFE is better but the clips are easy to clean with a .25cal rifle brush or the tiny wire brush for a Dremal and some contact cleaner and the clips can almost always be bent to return to proper tension. The biggest problem I have had with fuse racks like are GMC OE, is the the rivets get loose. If you are so inclined, that rack can be removed, those connections soldered and they will never again be an issue.
Then there is the sole saving point of AGC fuses, a blown fuse can usually identified while in place with a flashlight and often even without reading glasses.
The part that Loffen got is just the DC distribution panel out of a Parallex 7100. Oh, and Dolph, the blown indicator LED only works if there is enough load on the circuit when you are looking at it.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. I'm replacing the 12 volt fuse panel. Any ideas? [message #293072 is a reply to message #293020] |
Mon, 28 December 2015 20:14 |
jhbridges
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I've had no better luck with low voltage breakers than fuses. Even the aircraft rated ones fail both to undercurrent and overcurrent.
The difference is, you can't see the corrosion in the breaker until you take it apart, which ruins it. Stick with the fuses. They never claimed to work more'n once.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. I'm replacing the 12 volt fuse panel. Any ideas? [message #293080 is a reply to message #293020] |
Mon, 28 December 2015 22:06 |
sgltrac
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I e got the Blue Sea 12 v dist panel in both coaches. Easy to see fuses and
no more melting wires. Will fit almost anywhere.
Sully
77 royale
77 eleganza 2
Seattle
On Monday, December 28, 2015, Robert Mueller
wrote:
> G'day,
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> A picture is worth a thousand words:
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6546-under-double-trouble-27s-bathroom-sink.html
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> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Phipps
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> Most sporting goods big boxes, including West Marine, have ATO style fuse
> blocks available. Blue Sea is a very high quality brand.
> I do like the above referenced one. I used two Blue Sky blocks.
> Tom, MS II
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77 Royale basket case.
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Seattle, Wa.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. I'm replacing the 12 volt fuse panel. Any ideas? [message #293081 is a reply to message #293020] |
Mon, 28 December 2015 22:51 |
Jack Ramsey
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I got a WFCO WF-8930/50
Wanted a single spot for all the electrical and enclosed.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6899-electrical-panel.html
It also was the only one I could find that did NOT have it's own converter. Reason was I wanted one less box to take up more space. I'm trying the AIMS Power PICOGLF30W12V120VR 3000 Watt 12V Pure Sine Inverter Charger as the replacement for transfer switch, charger and Inverter. Will run everything on the right AC bus off the AIMS and the 2 AC's off the left bus. May not work with the Penguin II 13.5's drawing 14 amps each, but worst case scenario, is move the breaker over and not turn the AC on when running the inverter.
Jack Ramsey
Tulare, CA
TZE165V101526
1975 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. I'm replacing the 12 volt fuse panel. Any ideas? [message #293086 is a reply to message #293080] |
Tue, 29 December 2015 00:15 |
Guy Lopes
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Sully,
Which one did you use? How many circuits? Or, got a link?
Thanks,
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL monitoring 146.52
Zello app Channel GMC MH
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Todd
Sullivan
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:06 PM
To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. I'm replacing the 12 volt fuse panel. Any
ideas?
I e got the Blue Sea 12 v dist panel in both coaches. Easy to see fuses and
no more melting wires. Will fit almost anywhere.
Sully
77 royale
77 eleganza 2
Seattle
On Monday, December 28, 2015, Robert Mueller
wrote:
> G'day,
>
> A picture is worth a thousand words:
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6546-under-double-trouble-27s-bathr
> oom-sink.html
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Phipps
>
> Most sporting goods big boxes, including West Marine, have ATO style
> fuse blocks available. Blue Sea is a very high quality brand.
> I do like the above referenced one. I used two Blue Sky blocks.
> Tom, MS II
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. I'm replacing the 12 volt fuse panel. Any ideas? [message #293109 is a reply to message #293070] |
Tue, 29 December 2015 15:38 |
Ken Henderson
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I've got another tale to go with Matt's Fuse/LED comment: There will very
likely be a ground to keep the LED lit, but unless you look at the LED, you
can get confused: A few years ago I installed some of those Fuse/LED's.
Then I had trouble with the in-warranty refrigerator. First thing I did
was check the voltage at the control board with my handy HF 11 MegOhm input
multimeter -- 13.2VDC, just like it should be. Called Dometic. "I'll send
you a new control board -- just keep the old one." Great!
When the board arrived, I replaced it -- and still no refigerator
operation! Hmmm...
FINALLY, I got around to checking the fuse panel inside the coach: Glowing
red Refrigerator Fuse/LED! Blown fuse means no refrigerator control board
operation.
Ah-Ha! DUMB EE. The LED passes 5-20 mA of current. The multimeter's 11
MegOhm input only allows it to draw a few microamps of that, so it doesn't
know that not enough current is available to run much of anything.
Replaced the fuse. Refrigerator's been working for several years. Still
got the spare control board. Still don't know why the fuse blew; probably
not Buss or LittleFuse. :-)
Ken
DumbMe
H.
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Matt Colie wrote:
> ...
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Oh, and Dolph, the blown indicator LED only works if there is
> enough load on the circuit when you are looking at it.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Restoration. I'm replacing the 12 volt fuse panel. Any ideas? [message #293111 is a reply to message #293109] |
Tue, 29 December 2015 15:42 |
Ken Henderson
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Oh Yeah: I should have mentioned that such things as that dumb trick of
mine are a good reason to use a test lamp instead of a multimeter for most
initial troubleshooting. A bulb would have not illuminated with that
limited current so I'd have known right off that there was not enough
current reaching the refrigerator.
Ken
NotALWAYSDumb
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Ken Henderson
wrote:
> I've got another tale to go with Matt's Fuse/LED comment:
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> Ah-Ha! DUMB EE. The LED passes 5-20 mA of current. The multimeter's 11
> MegOhm input only allows it to draw a few microamps of that, so it doesn't
> know that not enough current is available to run much of anything.
>
> Ken
> DumbMe
> H.
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> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Matt Colie wrote:
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>> ...
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> Oh, and Dolph, the blown indicator LED only works if there is
>> enough load on the circuit when you are looking at it.
>>
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