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[GMCnet] Sub Floor [message #289465] Mon, 26 October 2015 13:47 Go to next message
Dolph Santorine is currently offline  Dolph Santorine   United States
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Any recommended adhesive for the ply to the aluminum frame?

Thanks!

Dolph Santorine

DE N8JPC

Wheeling, West Virginia

1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
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Re: [GMCnet] Sub Floor [message #289490 is a reply to message #289465] Mon, 26 October 2015 22:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dolph,
Adhesive is probably not your first choice when fastening the new flooring down. I would suggest cleaning the aluminum frame with a wire brush to clean any old adhesive off and clean with a solvent such as denatured alcohol. You can use the Denatured Alcohol to clean up excess silicone before it sets. You need to use a mechanical fastener such as a rivet with a fender washer to set the piece into a bed of silicone to the aluminum frame, use the silicone to fill any of the seams that you may have. Let it set 24 hours and it should be good to go!

JR Wright
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75 Avion
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> On Oct 26, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Adolph Santorine wrote:
>
> Any recommended adhesive for the ply to the aluminum frame?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dolph Santorine
>
> DE N8JPC
>
> Wheeling, West Virginia
>
> 1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
> 1-ton, Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010,
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Re: [GMCnet] Sub Floor [message #289492 is a reply to message #289465] Mon, 26 October 2015 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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are you securing plywood flooring to the aluminum frame rails? if so i used screws meant for fastening wood to metal from home depot Teks http://www.homedepot.com/p/Teks-12-2-3-4-in-Phillips-Flat-Head-Self-Drilling-Screws-40-Pack-21384/100145370 they looked very clse tomthe OEM that i removed, sansvthe phillips head vs torx

worked great for me -dave


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Re: [GMCnet] Sub Floor [message #289493 is a reply to message #289492] Mon, 26 October 2015 23:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes. I'm using the fasteners, but there was an adhesive or sealant there from the factory.

Dolph Santorine

DE N8JPC

Wheeling, West Virginia

1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
1-ton, Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010,


> On Oct 27, 2015, at 12:17 AM, David wrote:
>
> are you securing plywood flooring to the aluminum frame rails? if so i used screws meant for fastening wood to metal from home depot Teks
> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Teks-12-2-3-4-in-Phillips-Flat-Head-Self-Drilling-Screws-40-Pack-21384/100145370
>
> worked great for me
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] Sub Floor [message #289495 is a reply to message #289493] Tue, 27 October 2015 00:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dolph,

I'll bet that the adhesive is 3M EC-2216 epoxy which is what I believe is the adhesive that was used to glue the sheet aluminum to
the aluminum frame.

Is it dark gray?

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

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From: Adolph Santorine

Yes. I'm using the fasteners, but there was an adhesive or sealant there from the factory.

Dolph


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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Sub Floor [message #289497 is a reply to message #289495] Tue, 27 October 2015 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob:

That appears to be it, and it is extremely similar to what I was about to use.

Structural, yet flexible.

It weathered the last 38 years very well.

Dolph



> On Oct 27, 2015, at 1:57 AM, Robert Mueller wrote:
>
> Dolph,
>
> I'll bet that the adhesive is 3M EC-2216 epoxy which is what I believe is the adhesive that was used to glue the sheet aluminum to
> the aluminum frame.
>
> Is it dark gray?
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adolph Santorine
>
> Yes. I'm using the fasteners, but there was an adhesive or sealant there from the factory.
>
> Dolph
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Sub Floor [message #289524 is a reply to message #289497] Tue, 27 October 2015 12:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dolphins, size your sheets with a gap around the perimeter or your floor
might squeak when walked on. I had one piece that fit "perfectly" while the
others had small gaps around the perimeter. The "perfect fitting " one will
squeak when I step in one spot. Drives me a bit nuts.

Sully
77 royale
Seattle

On Tuesday, October 27, 2015, Dolph Santorine wrote:

> Rob:
>
> That appears to be it, and it is extremely similar to what I was about to
> use.
>
> Structural, yet flexible.
>
> It weathered the last 38 years very well.
>
> Dolph
>
>
>
>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 1:57 AM, Robert Mueller > wrote:
>>
>> Dolph,
>>
>> I'll bet that the adhesive is 3M EC-2216 epoxy which is what I believe
> is the adhesive that was used to glue the sheet aluminum to
>> the aluminum frame.
>>
>> Is it dark gray?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.
>> The Pedantic Mechanic
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Adolph Santorine
>>
>> Yes. I'm using the fasteners, but there was an adhesive or sealant there
> from the factory.
>>
>> Dolph
>>
>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Sub Floor [message #289525 is a reply to message #289524] Tue, 27 October 2015 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sgltrac is currently offline  sgltrac   United States
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I was able to find the same style self tapping screws as I removed from
Tacoma Screw. The orig was self drilling and tapping but if you have one
drill set up to do pilot holes and another to drive the screws it goes real
fast.

Sully
77 royale
Seattle
On Tuesday, October 27, 2015, Todd Sullivan wrote:

> Dolphins, size your sheets with a gap around the perimeter or your floor
> might squeak when walked on. I had one piece that fit "perfectly" while the
> others had small gaps around the perimeter. The "perfect fitting " one will
> squeak when I step in one spot. Drives me a bit nuts.
>
> Sully
> 77 royale
> Seattle
>
> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015, Dolph Santorine > wrote:
>
>> Rob:
>>
>> That appears to be it, and it is extremely similar to what I was about to
>> use.
>>
>> Structural, yet flexible.
>>
>> It weathered the last 38 years very well.
>>
>> Dolph
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 27, 2015, at 1:57 AM, Robert Mueller
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dolph,
>>>
>>> I'll bet that the adhesive is 3M EC-2216 epoxy which is what I believe
>> is the adhesive that was used to glue the sheet aluminum to
>>> the aluminum frame.
>>>
>>> Is it dark gray?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Rob M.
>>> The Pedantic Mechanic
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Adolph Santorine
>>>
>>> Yes. I'm using the fasteners, but there was an adhesive or sealant
>> there from the factory.
>>>
>>> Dolph
>>>
>>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Sub Floor [message #289530 is a reply to message #289525] Tue, 27 October 2015 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dolph Santorine is currently offline  Dolph Santorine   United States
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Thanks Todd.

I'm going to take the extra bit out now.

-Flipper-

Dolph Santorine

DE N8JPC

Wheeling, West Virginia

1977 ex-Palm Beach TZE167V100820
1-ton, Sullybuilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010,


> On Oct 27, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Todd Sullivan wrote:
>
> I was able to find the same style self tapping screws as I removed from
> Tacoma Screw. The orig was self drilling and tapping but if you have one
> drill set up to do pilot holes and another to drive the screws it goes real
> fast.
>
> Sully
> 77 royale
> Seattle
>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015, Todd Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> Dolphins, size your sheets with a gap around the perimeter or your floor
>> might squeak when walked on. I had one piece that fit "perfectly" while the
>> others had small gaps around the perimeter. The "perfect fitting " one will
>> squeak when I step in one spot. Drives me a bit nuts.
>>
>> Sully
>> 77 royale
>> Seattle
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2015, Dolph Santorine > > wrote:
>>
>>> Rob:
>>>
>>> That appears to be it, and it is extremely similar to what I was about to
>>> use.
>>>
>>> Structural, yet flexible.
>>>
>>> It weathered the last 38 years very well.
>>>
>>> Dolph
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> > On Oct 27, 2015, at 1:57 AM, Robert Mueller
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dolph,
>>>>
>>>> I'll bet that the adhesive is 3M EC-2216 epoxy which is what I believe
>>> is the adhesive that was used to glue the sheet aluminum to
>>>> the aluminum frame.
>>>>
>>>> Is it dark gray?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Rob M.
>>>> The Pedantic Mechanic
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Adolph Santorine
>>>>
>>>> Yes. I'm using the fasteners, but there was an adhesive or sealant
>>> there from the factory.
>>>>
>>>> Dolph
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [GMCnet] Sub Floor [message #289548 is a reply to message #289495] Tue, 27 October 2015 18:16 Go to previous message
Dolph Santorine is currently offline  Dolph Santorine   United States
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Thanks for the input.

The biggest hassle was finding some ply that was genuinely 3/4”

Marine Plywood was exactly 3/4 and worked well.

I was surprised to learn that the body is held on via the plywood. I didn’t expect that.

Thanks again for the input.

Dolph


> On Oct 27, 2015, at 1:57 AM, Robert Mueller wrote:
>
> Dolph,
>
> I'll bet that the adhesive is 3M EC-2216 epoxy which is what I believe is the adhesive that was used to glue the sheet aluminum to
> the aluminum frame.
>
> Is it dark gray?
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adolph Santorine
>
> Yes. I'm using the fasteners, but there was an adhesive or sealant there from the factory.
>
> Dolph
>
>
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