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Mon, 26 October 2015 11:42  |
Al Hamilton
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We have a four-bag system on our coach and I noticed recently that a rubber-covered wire around the centre of two bags is broken. The bags have been on for about six years and are Goodyear 2B8-155s. I have not heard of this problem before. I don't know how long they were broken and if it's a problem or not. Has anyone else had these wires break ???
Al Hamilton,
76 Eleganza II,
Heart of the 1000 Islands, Ontario
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air Bag Problem - Four Bag System [message #289462 is a reply to message #289461] |
Mon, 26 October 2015 11:57  |
Ken Henderson
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Al,
My 4-bag's been installed since 1998, possibly as many as 100,000 mile,
with no problem whatsoever. I will check them closely the next time I'm in
the wheel wells though.
Ken H.
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Al Hamilton wrote:
> We have a four-bag system on our coach and I noticed recently that a
> rubber-covered wire around the centre of two bags is broken. The bags have
> been
> on for about six years and are Goodyear 2B8-155s. I have not heard of this
> problem before. I don't know how long they were broken and if it's a
> problem or not. Has anyone else had these wires break ???
> --
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air Bag Problem - Four Bag System [message #289463 is a reply to message #289462] |
Mon, 26 October 2015 12:12 |
Al Hamilton
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Ken,
I should have mentioned that the wire may be covered by the bellows when the coach is on the ground with air in the bags. I only saw it with a jack under it and the wheels off the ground.
Al Hamilton,
76 Eleganza II,
Heart of the 1000 Islands, Ontario
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air Bag Problem - Four Bag System [message #289473 is a reply to message #289463] |
Mon, 26 October 2015 16:37 |
Ken Henderson
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Thanks, Al. Does the problem appear on only one bag, all, ...?
Sounds like time to start carrying a spare, huh?
Ken H.
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Al Hamilton wrote:
> Ken,
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> I should have mentioned that the wire may be covered by the bellows when
> the coach is on the ground with air in the bags. I only saw it with a jack
> under it and the wheels off the ground.
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> Al Hamilton,
> 76 Eleganza II,
> Heart of the 1000 Islands, Ontario
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air Bag Problem - Four Bag System [message #289477 is a reply to message #289473] |
Mon, 26 October 2015 17:28 |
Al Hamilton
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Two of the four have broken wires. I'm enough of a pessimist that I have always carried a spare. I'm trying to find out and then decide if I should change those with broken wires and then they become spares. The local truck shop said yes, but in their application they have higher air pressures and carry heavier loads per bag. Mine could have been broken for years !!!
Al Hamilton,
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Heart of the 1000 Islands, Ontario
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air Bag Problem - Four Bag System [message #289480 is a reply to message #289477] |
Mon, 26 October 2015 18:47 |
jimk
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Can you post a picture of this coated wire.
I have no clue as to where this wire is on the system.
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Al Hamilton wrote:
> Two of the four have broken wires. I'm enough of a pessimist that I have
> always carried a spare. I'm trying to find out and then decide if I should
> change those with broken wires and then they become spares. The local
> truck shop said yes, but in their application they have higher air
> pressures and
> carry heavier loads per bag. Mine could have been broken for years !!!
> --
> Al Hamilton,
> 76 Eleganza II,
> Heart of the 1000 Islands, Ontario
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air Bag Problem - Four Bag System [message #289481 is a reply to message #289480] |
Mon, 26 October 2015 19:20 |
Ken Henderson
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Jim,
Just to be sure you understand: We're discussing Leigh's 4-bag, NOT the
Quad Bag (I think). :-)
Ken H.
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
> Can you post a picture of this coated wire.
> I have no clue as to where this wire is on the system.
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> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Al Hamilton wrote:
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>> Two of the four have broken wires. I'm enough of a pessimist that I have
>> always carried a spare. I'm trying to find out and then decide if I
> should
>> change those with broken wires and then they become spares. The local
>> truck shop said yes, but in their application they have higher air
>> pressures and
>> carry heavier loads per bag. Mine could have been broken for years !!!
>> --
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air Bag Problem - Four Bag System [message #289483 is a reply to message #289481] |
Mon, 26 October 2015 19:43 |
jimk
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Thanks Ken,
We have used Good Year bags at times when Firestone could not supply.
I have several around that they refused to warranty.
Good Year air bags are ant a part of the GoodYear Tire. They ar part of the
Hose group.
Best that we all check the bags where the band is and make sure that it is
not unraveling.
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Ken Henderson
wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Just to be sure you understand: We're discussing Leigh's 4-bag, NOT the
> Quad Bag (I think). :-)
>
> Ken H.
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> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Jim Kanomata
> wrote:
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>> Can you post a picture of this coated wire.
>> I have no clue as to where this wire is on the system.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Al Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> Two of the four have broken wires. I'm enough of a pessimist that I
> have
>>> always carried a spare. I'm trying to find out and then decide if I
>> should
>>> change those with broken wires and then they become spares. The local
>>> truck shop said yes, but in their application they have higher air
>>> pressures and
>>> carry heavier loads per bag. Mine could have been broken for years !!!
>>> --
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air Bag Problem - Four Bag System [message #289484 is a reply to message #289483] |
Mon, 26 October 2015 19:59 |
Al Hamilton
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I took some photos of the two bags (both on the right side but couldn't up load them because the were 200 to 300 kbs each. Will try again tomorrow.
Al Hamilton,
76 Eleganza II,
Heart of the 1000 Islands, Ontario
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air Bag Problem - Four Bag System [message #289485 is a reply to message #289484] |
Mon, 26 October 2015 20:20 |
jimk
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Tks,AL.
I learn lots by listing to people.
Back in the early 80's I learned from the older guys, now I'm 73 so I'm
getting to be one of the older guys.
Having the internet has certainly helped to disseminate lot of information.
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Al Hamilton wrote:
> I took some photos of the two bags (both on the right side but couldn't up
> load them because the were 200 to 300 kbs each. Will try again tomorrow.
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> 76 Eleganza II,
> Heart of the 1000 Islands, Ontario
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air Bag Problem - Four Bag System [message #289496 is a reply to message #289484] |
Tue, 27 October 2015 07:01 |
Ken Henderson
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Al,
If you have a "photo shrinker" program, use it to shrink them to 800x600
before uploading. If you don't have one, I'm sure someone will suggest
one. I personally use XNView (from XNView.com), but it's unnecessarily
complex for just that task.
Ken H.
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Al Hamilton wrote:
> I took some photos of the two bags (both on the right side but couldn't up
> load them because the were 200 to 300 kbs each. Will try again tomorrow.
> --
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air Bag Problem - Four Bag System [message #289511 is a reply to message #289507] |
Tue, 27 October 2015 10:44 |
George Beckman
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Matt Colie wrote on Tue, 27 October 2015 07:54While sharing some good time with Edgar Kremer at Rapid City, he told me of a online site called [url]photosize.com[/url] that will resize a *.jpg with great ease. It may take a few tries to end up with the overall size you want as it only sizes be height or width, but the quality retention is Great. I have only had occasion to use it a few times, but have been very happy with both the quality (great) and the cost (can you beat Free?).
Matt
STM wrote on Mon, 26 October 2015 20:59I took some photos of the two bags (both on the right side but couldn't up load them because the were 200 to 300 kbs each. Will try again tomorrow.
Or you could use a Mac and resize both dimensions and/or file size using Preview that is built in.
Sorry I could not resist.
'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
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| Re: [GMCnet] Air Bag Problem - Four Bag System [message #289542 is a reply to message #289520] |
Tue, 27 October 2015 16:47 |
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G'day,
Download Microsoft Picture Manager:
http://microsoft-office-picture-manager.apponic.com/
It has rudimentary photo editing capabilities:
1) Auto Correct (automatically correct brightness, contrast, and color)
2) Brightness & Contrast (manually correct brightness, contrast, and color)
3) Crop (manually crop blank areas around photos)
4) Rotate & Flip (Rotate 90° right / Rotate 90° left, Rotate by degree / Flip horizontally / Flip vertically)
5) Red Eye Removal
6) Resize (Predefined height and width, Custom height & width, Percentage of original height & Width)
7) Compress (three levels each compressing the photo more: Documents, Web Pages, and Email Messages
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
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| Re: Air Bag Problem - Four Bag System [message #289576 is a reply to message #289569] |
Wed, 28 October 2015 06:42 |
Al Hamilton
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Thank you all for the software suggestions. I have reduced the photo size using the Windows program to a point where it is too small and it still can't be uploaded. Can we get back to my question ?? Has anyone else had problems with the Goodyear bags and the wire and its rubber covering breaking. It's the wire and covering that is in the very centre of the bag between the two bellows. Two of the four on our coach have broken and both on the right side.
Al Hamilton,
76 Eleganza II,
Heart of the 1000 Islands, Ontario
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