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| CR Lawrence windows, pluses and minuses? [message #289147] |
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thesmith
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I've seen pictures of the frameless CR Lawrence windows on some coachs and they look good.......but what are the practical
pluses and minuses of them over a good set of original 78 windows?
Pete
Cary, NC
1978 Center Kitchen Royale.
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| Re: CR Lawrence windows, pluses and minuses? [message #289150 is a reply to message #289147] |
Thu, 22 October 2015 07:44  |
kerry pinkerton
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No leaks
Less wind noise
Tinted windows
To be fair, the OEM windows can be rebuilt with new felt and rubber and reinstalled with the same sealant and fix most the leaks. OEM windows have a larger open area than the Tsliders or the flush mounts.
I installed Tsliders and love them. The darker tint also helps keep the coach cooler in the summer.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: CR Lawrence windows, pluses and minuses? [message #289179 is a reply to message #289173] |
Thu, 22 October 2015 13:09 |
George B.
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Just what I have heard, when removing the OEM windows and if your coach has been repainted in the past, some areas may show the original paint so you may have to touch up the newly exposed areas that were previously hidden by the old moldings.
George Butts
Las Vegas Nevada
73 "Custom 26' Q" & 76 23' Birchaven
71 Honda 600 Coupe & 01 Tracker Toads
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| Re: [GMCnet] CR Lawrence windows, pluses and minuses? [message #289181 is a reply to message #289180] |
Thu, 22 October 2015 13:25 |
jimk
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Jim Bounds with my push now have a cockpit window that will have 2 glass
that will slide so there will be easy access at toll booth . Be available
in 2 month.
you ca go to our sight or Coop and get pricing and picture of the Proto
type and cost.
They will be maufcctured by CR Lawrence.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Jim Kanomata
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> We have found that the newly exposed area is very minimal and can be
> touched up.
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> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Jim Kanomata
> wrote:
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>> The vent glass is gasket ed on all 4 sides.
>> So it is very quiet.
>> The others have one side with a fin seal that allow sound to pierce
>> through.
>> It comes with a dark tint so the inside temperature will be considerably
>> cooler when the sun shines.
>> And it does looks good.
>> The back rear window are designed to be able to push out during emergency.
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>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Jim Galbavy wrote:
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>>> One thing that I would be concerned with the CR Lawrence windows over
>>> the OEM windows
>>> is that the OEM rear side windows can be used as an emergency / fire
>>> egress so you are not
>>> trapped in the rear without a way out. Not so sure about the CR
>>> Lawrence.
>>>
>>> jim galbavy
>>> '73 CL ANNIE
>>> Lake Mary, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] CR Lawrence windows, pluses and minuses? [message #289182 is a reply to message #289180] |
Thu, 22 October 2015 13:19 |
jimk
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We have found that the newly exposed area is very minimal and can be
touched up.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Jim Kanomata
wrote:
> The vent glass is gasket ed on all 4 sides.
> So it is very quiet.
> The others have one side with a fin seal that allow sound to pierce
> through.
> It comes with a dark tint so the inside temperature will be considerably
> cooler when the sun shines.
> And it does looks good.
> The back rear window are designed to be able to push out during emergency.
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Jim Galbavy wrote:
>
>> One thing that I would be concerned with the CR Lawrence windows over the
>> OEM windows
>> is that the OEM rear side windows can be used as an emergency / fire
>> egress so you are not
>> trapped in the rear without a way out. Not so sure about the CR Lawrence.
>>
>> jim galbavy
>> '73 CL ANNIE
>> Lake Mary, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] CR Lawrence windows, pluses and minuses? [message #289188 is a reply to message #289181] |
Thu, 22 October 2015 16:39 |
KB
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jimk wrote on Thu, 22 October 2015 11:25Jim Bounds with my push now have a cockpit window that will have 2 glass
that will slide so there will be easy access at toll booth . Be available
in 2 month.
you ca go to our sight or Coop and get pricing and picture of the Proto
type and cost.
They will be maufcctured by CR Lawrence.
That is so cool! So will the front half slide back, or the back half slide forward?
I noticed that on the original argosy inspiration windows, the divider is angled to
match the slant of the front. I'm guessing on those the back half slides forward,
though hard to tell for sure. On the prototype GMC window, the center divider is vertical,
so can't tell which way it will open.
It will be nice for the driver to be able to talk to people outside more easily,
and hopefully these will allow a lot more airflow.
I'm glad to see both sides will be available, since only doing one side would be a little weird looking imho.
For those who've missed the pictures, see here:
http://appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1733
or here:
http://gmccoop.com/driver-pass-front-slider-pricing/
Karen (saving up for a pair of these...)
1975 26'
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| Re: [GMCnet] CR Lawrence windows, pluses and minuses? [message #289207 is a reply to message #289189] |
Fri, 23 October 2015 00:35 |
Bullitthead
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So simple in design and functional, like the rest of the motorhome, so you have to wonder why GM did it the original way, which had to be more complex.
Gotta save up for a set of these, best and most needed improvement on these machines in 43 years. Shoulda been done that way from the start.
Terry Kelpien
ASE Master Technician
73 Glacier 260
Smithfield, Va.
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| Re: [GMCnet] CR Lawrence windows, pluses and minuses? [message #289212 is a reply to message #289207] |
Fri, 23 October 2015 00:53 |
jimk
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Karen,
The front will slide back.
The tinting is a new type that reflect the sun better so one will not feel
the heat as much.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Terry wrote:
> So simple in design and functional, like the rest of the motorhome, so you
> have to wonder why GM did it the original way, which had to be more
> complex.
> Gotta save up for a set of these, best and most needed improvement on
> these machines in 43 years. Shoulda been done that way from the start.
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> ASE Master Technician
> 73 Glacier 260
> Smithfield, Va.
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| Re: [GMCnet] CR Lawrence windows, pluses and minuses? [message #289217 is a reply to message #289207] |
Fri, 23 October 2015 05:19 |
Olly Schmidt
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> So simple in design and functional, like the rest of the motorhome, so you have to wonder why GM did it the original way, which had to be more complex.
> Gotta save up for a set of these, best and most needed improvement on these machines in 43 years. Shoulda been done that way from the start.
imho the original design has the advantage of not blowing so much wind
in when open during driving. The small window is very nice that it does
let in a bit of air, but not too much. My 0.02$ :)
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| Re: [GMCnet] CR Lawrence windows, pluses and minuses? [message #289222 is a reply to message #289181] |
Fri, 23 October 2015 07:39 |
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SWEET!
jimk wrote on Thu, 22 October 2015 14:25Jim Bounds with my push now have a cockpit window that will have 2 glass
that will slide so there will be easy access at toll booth . Be available
in 2 month.
you ca go to our sight or Coop and get pricing and picture of the Proto
type and cost.
They will be maufcctured by CR Lawrence.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Jim Kanomata
wrote:
> We have found that the newly exposed area is very minimal and can be
> touched up.
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Jim Kanomata
> wrote:
>
>> The vent glass is gasket ed on all 4 sides.
>> So it is very quiet.
>> The others have one side with a fin seal that allow sound to pierce
>> through.
>> It comes with a dark tint so the inside temperature will be considerably
>> cooler when the sun shines.
>> And it does looks good.
>> The back rear window are designed to be able to push out during emergency.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Jim Galbavy wrote:
>>
>>> One thing that I would be concerned with the CR Lawrence windows over
>>> the OEM windows
>>> is that the OEM rear side windows can be used as an emergency / fire
>>> egress so you are not
>>> trapped in the rear without a way out. Not so sure about the CR
>>> Lawrence.
>>>
>>> jim galbavy
>>> '73 CL ANNIE
>>> Lake Mary, FL
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
>>> http://list.gmcnet.org/mailman/listinfo/gmclist_list.gmcnet.org
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>> --
>> Jim Kanomata
>> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>> 1-800-752-7502
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> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
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| Re: [GMCnet] CR Lawrence windows, pluses and minuses? [message #289254 is a reply to message #289235] |
Fri, 23 October 2015 19:02 |
jimk
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Had a person ask us if it will have a screen.
Tried to find out from Jim B, but he was busy at a show.
Soon as we find out we will announce that.
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Nick Chapekis wrote:
> Now someone needs to design some giant wind wings!
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> Ypsilanti, MI
> 78 Kingsley
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| Re: [GMCnet] CR Lawrence windows, pluses and minuses? [message #289829 is a reply to message #289180] |
Sun, 01 November 2015 21:28 |
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We love our CR Laurence windows. Ours are the "pop-out" style - not the sliders. In the summer - we quite often keep the rear windows popped open when driving.
I've considered the emergency exit aspect as well - I figure I'll pop out the back window if needed. I also keep a glass "breaker" near the beds in the back, in case it's needed.
Rob
Victoria, BC
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath
On 2015-10-22, at 11:15 AM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
> The vent glass is gasket ed on all 4 sides.
> So it is very quiet.
> The others have one side with a fin seal that allow sound to pierce through.
> It comes with a dark tint so the inside temperature will be considerably
> cooler when the sun shines.
> And it does looks good.
> The back rear window are designed to be able to push out during emergency.
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| Re: [GMCnet] CR Lawrence windows, pluses and minuses? [message #289830 is a reply to message #289829] |
Sun, 01 November 2015 21:43 |
Guy Lopes
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You know, my one concern with upgrading to this window has been the loss of
emergency egress capabilities. Though I keep a glass breaker in all of my
vehicles, for some reason I hadn't considered that as an option in the GMC.
Brilliant!
Thanks Rob,
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL
www.GMC-Guy.com
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2015 7:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] CR Lawrence windows, pluses and minuses?
We love our CR Laurence windows. Ours are the "pop-out" style - not the
sliders. In the summer - we quite often keep the rear windows popped open
when driving.
I've considered the emergency exit aspect as well - I figure I'll pop out
the back window if needed. I also keep a glass "breaker" near the beds in
the back, in case it's needed.
Rob
Victoria, BC
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath
On 2015-10-22, at 11:15 AM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
> The vent glass is gasket ed on all 4 sides.
> So it is very quiet.
> The others have one side with a fin seal that allow sound to pierce
through.
> It comes with a dark tint so the inside temperature will be
> considerably cooler when the sun shines.
> And it does looks good.
> The back rear window are designed to be able to push out during emergency.
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