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This weekends 400 mile jaunt brought me a couple of observations. The first happened on the way up to north Florida, I knew the old style external coil had oil in them, but not so much that when it overheated and/or leaked the oil actually pushed the coil wire out of the top, in the middle of traffic. The oil was still in the top of the coil. Thank goodness the big backfires out the back, sorta warned everyone to back off and I was able to safely move over 3 lanes and kept rolling to a parking lot, the auxiliary vacuum pump really helped to. I had a spare and was going after a change. Has anyone come up with an ideal how to help keep the coil a little cooler short of moving it under the dinette seat. Or is there one that is more heat resistant. This is the second one in 2 years, the first died in the driveway. I think a heatsink would just attract the heat not disperse it. I have a marine type blower in the motor area to pull the heat out of the motor cover penthouse put on for the edelbrock manifold. The moral of that story is stay in the right lane in heavy traffic if you can so you can exit easily. I guess that wasn't very funny but just trying to laugh it off.
Next comes the Klingon cloaking device the PO must have installed. I had at least 6, lets be nice and say vehicles, pull out unsafely in front of me. I call "unsafe" is if I have to put on the brakes so they don't become speed bumps. I know the physical mass was there, even if they couldn't see me, because the wind gave me fit coming home. I even tried to see if turning the headlights on turned off the cloaking device but it seemed to attract them like a light bulb. I guess they just can't believe that I could be doing the speed limit, and can't stop as good as them.
On a humorous note I read what Jim Galbavy said about the passenger seat is scary to ride in and I agree, I rode a few times there and it is especially in the right lane on high bridges. My wife drives it fine and can if she needs to but prefers to leave it to me. Lets tip our hats to our spouses and SO's for sitting there and not saying anything, I guess they're used to it.
Just a few things I notice this weekend.
Skip Hartline
74 Canyon Lands, FiTech,
3.7 FD LSD, Manny Tranny,
Springfield Distributor,
2001 Chevy Tracker Ragtop Towd
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| Re: [GMCnet] oil in coil and cloaking devise [message #288969 is a reply to message #288967] |
Sun, 18 October 2015 19:38  |
James Hupy
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Sounds to me like you might have eliminated the resistance in the primary
circuit to the coil. Check voltage. Should be around 9 volts at the +
terminal with the engine running.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
On Oct 18, 2015 5:21 PM, "Skip Hartline" wrote:
> This weekends 400 mile jaunt brought me a couple of observations. The
> first happened on the way up to north Florida, I knew the old style external
> coil had oil in them, but not so much that when it overheated and/or
> leaked the oil actually pushed the coil wire out of the top, in the middle
> of
> traffic. The oil was still in the top of the coil. Thank goodness the big
> backfires out the back, sorta warned everyone to back off and I was able to
> safely move over 3 lanes and kept rolling to a parking lot, the auxiliary
> vacuum pump really helped to. I had a spare and was going after a change.
> Has anyone come up with an ideal how to help keep the coil a little cooler
> short of moving it under the dinette seat. Or is there one that is more
> heat resistant. This is the second one in 2 years, the first died in the
> driveway. I think a heatsink would just attract the heat not disperse it. I
> have a marine type blower in the motor area to pull the heat out of the
> motor cover penthouse put on for the edelbrock manifold. The moral of that
> story is stay in the right lane in heavy traffic if you can so you can
> exit easily. I guess that wasn't very funny but just trying to laugh it off.
> Next comes the Klingon cloaking device the PO must have installed. I had
> at least 6, lets be nice and say vehicles, pull out unsafely in front of me.
> I call "unsafe" is if I have to put on the brakes so they don't become
> speed bumps. I know the physical mass was there, even if they couldn't see
> me,
> because the wind gave me fit coming home. I even tried to see if turning
> the headlights on turned off the cloaking device but it seemed to attract
> them like a light bulb. I guess they just can't believe that I could be
> doing the speed limit, and can't stop as good as them.
> On a humorous note I read what Jim Galbavy said about the passenger seat
> is scary to ride in and I agree, I rode a few times there and it is
> especially in the right lane on high bridges. My wife drives it fine and
> can if she needs to but prefers to leave it to me. Lets tip our hats to our
> spouses and SO's for sitting there and not saying anything, I guess
> they're used to it.
> Just a few things I notice this weekend.
> Skip Hartline
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| Re: [GMCnet] oil in coil and cloaking devise [message #288970 is a reply to message #288969] |
Sun, 18 October 2015 19:44 |
skip2
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I agree and will check, can the factory resistor wire to the coil change state, It's still on the original harness wire? I've seen resistors go to a zero ohm state after a surge. Is it a resistor wire or is there actually a real resistor in the wiring?
Skip Hartline
74 Canyon Lands, FiTech,
3.7 FD LSD, Manny Tranny,
Springfield Distributor,
2001 Chevy Tracker Ragtop Towd
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| Re: [GMCnet] oil in coil and cloaking devise [message #288978 is a reply to message #288967] |
Sun, 18 October 2015 20:49 |
Ken Henderson
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Skip,
I noticed your mention of an Edelbrock manifold. That, along with
your obvious engine compartment heat problem makes me wonder: Have
you heard about my (and others') experience with Edelbrock and their
mandatory crossover plugs?:
When I got my coach it had a pretty new Edelbrock manifold, which I
found cracked where the crossover enters the "heat stove" beneath the
carb. When I called Edelbrock, they insisted (as do Jegs, Summit,
etc. catalogs) that one MUST use their crossover plugs, which they
sent me N/C.
After running with those installed for 20K+ miles, I removed the
manifold for other reasons, and found this:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g3057-cylinder-head-damage-from-exhaust-crossover-plugs.html
A few thousand more miles would have destroyed my cylinder heads.
I've heard of several instances of that happening, and know one of the
victims personally.
If you don't KNOW that there are no such plugs in your heads, check
NOW. Use one of the other approved methods (pouring the crossover or
installing SS block-off plates) to close the crossover to eliminate a
lot of the excess heat you're experiencing.
HEI coils are not oil-filled; you may want to upgrade to HEI.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc.
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Skip Hartline wrote:
> This weekends 400 mile jaunt brought me a couple of observations. The first happened on the way up to north Florida, I knew the old style external
> coil had oil in them, but not so much that when it overheated and/or leaked the oil actually pushed the coil wire out of the top, in the middle of
> traffic. The oil was still in the top of the coil. Thank goodness the big backfires out the back, sorta warned everyone to back off and I was able to
> safely move over 3 lanes and kept rolling to a parking lot, the auxiliary vacuum pump really helped to. I had a spare and was going after a change.
> Has anyone come up with an ideal how to help keep the coil a little cooler short of moving it under the dinette seat. Or is there one that is more
> heat resistant. This is the second one in 2 years, the first died in the driveway. I think a heatsink would just attract the heat not disperse it. I
> have a marine type blower in the motor area to pull the heat out of the motor cover penthouse put on for the edelbrock manifold. The moral of that
> story is stay in the right lane in heavy traffic if you can so you can exit easily. I guess that wasn't very funny but just trying to laugh it off.
> Next comes the Klingon cloaking device the PO must have installed. I had at least 6, lets be nice and say vehicles, pull out unsafely in front of me.
> I call "unsafe" is if I have to put on the brakes so they don't become speed bumps. I know the physical mass was there, even if they couldn't see me,
> because the wind gave me fit coming home. I even tried to see if turning the headlights on turned off the cloaking device but it seemed to attract
> them like a light bulb. I guess they just can't believe that I could be doing the speed limit, and can't stop as good as them.
> On a humorous note I read what Jim Galbavy said about the passenger seat is scary to ride in and I agree, I rode a few times there and it is
> especially in the right lane on high bridges. My wife drives it fine and can if she needs to but prefers to leave it to me. Lets tip our hats to our
> spouses and SO's for sitting there and not saying anything, I guess they're used to it.
> Just a few things I notice this weekend.
> Skip Hartline
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| Re: [GMCnet] oil in coil and cloaking devise [message #288979 is a reply to message #288978] |
Sun, 18 October 2015 21:03 |
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It's the whole setup, manifold, heads, cam, carb so there was no exhaust crossover
Skip
74 Canyon Lands, FiTech,
3.7 FD LSD, Manny Tranny,
Springfield Distributor,
2001 Chevy Tracker Ragtop Towd
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| Re: [GMCnet] oil in coil and cloaking devise [message #288980 is a reply to message #288979] |
Sun, 18 October 2015 21:08 |
Ken Henderson
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Good.
Ken H.
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Skip Hartline wrote:
> It's the whole setup, manifold, heads, cam, carb so there was no exhaust crossover
> Skip
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| Re: oil in coil and cloaking devise [message #289020 is a reply to message #288967] |
Mon, 19 October 2015 11:28 |
George Beckman
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skip2 wrote on Sun, 18 October 2015 17:21This weekends 400 mile jaunt brought me a couple of observations.
Next comes the Klingon cloaking device the PO must have installed. I had at least 6, lets be nice and say vehicles, pull out unsafely in front of me. I call "unsafe" is if I have to put on the brakes so they don't become speed bumps. I know the physical mass was there, even if they couldn't see me, because the wind gave me fit coming home. I even tried to see if turning the headlights on turned off the cloaking device but it seemed to attract them like a light bulb. I guess they just can't believe that I could be doing the speed limit, and can't stop as good as them.
My wife drives it fine and can if she needs to but prefers to leave it to me. Lets tip our hats to our spouses and SO's for sitting there and not saying anything, I guess they're used to it.
Just a few things I notice this weekend.
Skip Hartline
Klingon cloaking device is funny. I love the folks coming on to freeways via the onramp. I was in Missouri with Randy Van Winkle, in his coach. We were on a freeway with two lanes in our direction. We were testing some setting on EFI and so he was driving very steadily with the cruise control. In Missouri, the onramps are so long you are almost where you are going before entering (yielding) to traffic. A fellow in a new pickup with plenty of power comes along side of us and drives for 1/8 of a mile. We could not move over. The onramp was beginning to disappear. The fellow just kept coming, starting straight ahead. As he came within ten feet or so and he looked up. Then he honked the horn. Randy said, "He honked at me!". Yeah, I guess we didn't know how important he was and should have pulled over and parked when we saw him (for 1/4 of a mile) matching our speed exactly.
Ruth drives as well. She doesn't like K-Rails and they always seem to appear when she is driving. One time I was driving and the lanes were getting really narrow with cars galore. Ruth said, "It's too narrow." I said, "The truck in front of us is as wide as we are and he is doing fine." At that moment the rear wheels of the bob-tail crawled up the K-Rail and flopped back down. Dust and dirt clods flew in every direction. Sometimes I should keep my mouth shut.
'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
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| Re: oil in coil and cloaking devise [message #289025 is a reply to message #289020] |
Mon, 19 October 2015 12:06 |
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I have two large air horns under the front bumper, not so loud in the coach, but very loud if you are in front of it. They are right at window level of most cars.
It seems to disrupt the cloaking device pretty well. Like the time the guy in the left turn lane thought decided to go straight and he could squeeze into my lane. I discouraged that behaviour.
And I also love the people that think I am doing ANYTHING when they pull up next to me on the on ramp. I'm not speeding up, not slowing down not moving over. Unless it's a semi, then I will do what I can, but I usually don't have to.
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
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| Re: oil in coil and cloaking devise [message #289043 is a reply to message #288967] |
Mon, 19 October 2015 20:06 |
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Back in 1969 I had a good driving teacher. He said you should be going faster than the prevailing traffic when merging. He also taught how to pass on 2 lane country roads. Depress the accelerator firmly to the floor and hold it there until the passing manuver is completed and you are back safely in your lane. I guess they don't teach that anymore, or any number of other driving skills.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: oil in coil and cloaking devise [message #289044 is a reply to message #289043] |
Mon, 19 October 2015 21:05 |
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JohnL455 wrote on Mon, 19 October 2015 20:06...guess they don't teach that anymore, or any number of other driving skills.
True that! My son's both had drivers ed and neither were taught how to handle a blowout or skid.
Funny story. 20 years back or so, the wife's employer had a company outing at a local amusement park. Not really anything to do that interested me so I wandered over to the go kart track and noticed they had a slick track. I'd never run on one. There were 4 young men hanging around, driving age plus a year or two. They had just paid for a run on the slick track and I walked over and bought a ticket too. The boys all turned and raised their eyebrows at the old fart who was going to spoil their fun. I let them all get the cart of their choosing and took another and got in line behind them. The track guy sprayed soapy water on all the curves and dropped the flag. I passed two in the first curve and the other two in the next and lapped them 5 times doing four wheel drifts with wide open throttle. It was one of the most fun things I've ever done behind the wheel.
But the best part was when the run was over they came up to me and asked, "Man, where did you learn to drive like that?" I replied, "Drivers Ed at Butler High School in 1965."
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
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| Re: oil in coil and cloaking devise [message #289052 is a reply to message #289044] |
Tue, 20 October 2015 06:03 |
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Yep
I remember that "defensive driving course" was required to get you license, not anymore. One of the best rules I learned was when you see someone pull up to a stop your getting ready to pass if you can't see there eyes they're not looking at you, this weekend proved that.
Skip
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Springfield Distributor,
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| Re: oil in coil and cloaking devise [message #289066 is a reply to message #289064] |
Tue, 20 October 2015 11:06 |
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Correctomundo
I forgot about that,I just remember they had to use it at golden gate park when they went back to get the whales. I think first Romulans, then Klingons, I think the enterprise had it for a brief time then somehow Jim K got hold of it.
Skip
74 Canyon Lands, FiTech,
3.7 FD LSD, Manny Tranny,
Springfield Distributor,
2001 Chevy Tracker Ragtop Towd
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| Re: [GMCnet] oil in coil and cloaking devise [message #289070 is a reply to message #289068] |
Tue, 20 October 2015 11:22 |
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I have traveled with Jim K. The only time that he drives 55 is on his way
to 80. Can't hardly keep him in sight. My 403 runs like a scalded dog, but
is no match for that 540 cubic inch turbocharged, intercooled, cadillac.
Even when he is pulling a big van jammed full of vendor goodies. (if anyone
needs a cloaking device, he does)
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 9:08 AM, A. wrote:
> skip2 wrote on Tue, 20 October 2015 11:06
>> Correctomundo
>> I forgot about that,I just remember they had to use it at golden gate
> park when they went back to get the whales. I think first Romulans, then
>> Klingons, I think the enterprise had it for a brief time then somehow
> Jim K got hold of it.
>> Skip
> I don't think Jim K has one. If he did, he wouldn't get so many speeding
> tickets.
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So I thought I might mount a computer fan right next to it to keep air moving across it's heat sink. Maybe a better idea is to use some dryer duct and small fans to route some cool air to the coils and amps.
