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| What should I do without my wife [message #288742] |
Wed, 14 October 2015 16:14  |
appie
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My wife, always there when I backup into a camping spot, heared som new noise from the rear. As I thought it would be a good idear to grease the pins, i lifted the rear and found all 4 wheels loose onthe axels.
I do not remember what the po did to them, but they have been off
My guess is he did not tighten them up properly. They cant go loose by them selv can they ? Does anybode test these regulary ?
Anyway there does not seem to be done any harm, but those nuts were realy loose
Appie
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| Re: [GMCnet] What should I do without my wife [message #288745 is a reply to message #288742] |
Wed, 14 October 2015 16:39  |
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Appie
Shame on you for blaming your poor PO.
There's no excuse for you not checking those a long time before now.
tsk, tsk, tsk .... ;-)
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On Oct 14, 2015 4:15 PM, "lenze middelberg" wrote:
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> My wife, always there when I backup into a camping spot, heared som new
noise from the rear. As I thought it would be a good idear to grease the
> pins, i lifted the rear and found all 4 wheels loose onthe axels.
> I do not remember what the po did to them, but they have been off
> My guess is he did not tighten them up properly. They cant go loose by
them selv can they ? Does anybode test these regulary ?
>
> Anyway there does not seem to be done any harm, but those nuts were realy
loose
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| Re: [GMCnet] What should I do without my wife [message #288747 is a reply to message #288745] |
Wed, 14 October 2015 16:50 |
appie
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Point taken
There is so much to learn! And thete have been so many challanges
Appie
eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold
6 wheel discbrake
Quadrabags
Springfield stage 2 462 olds
Manny tranny
( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html
Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016
Denmark
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| Re: [GMCnet] What should I do without my wife [message #288753 is a reply to message #288749] |
Wed, 14 October 2015 17:35 |
James Hupy
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For one of the guys who have lost their wives, that lifestyle sucks. Never
been too fond of leaving my underwear on the floor, or dirty dishes in the
sink, or the bed unmade. When the fog of depression lifts enough that you
can function a bit, those kinds of tasks will get you through the day until
you encounter yet another sleepless night. Hope you never have to go
through it.
Jim Hupy (now happily married again)
Salem, Or.
78 GMC ROYALE 403
(THE WAYBACK MACHINE)
On Oct 14, 2015 3:20 PM, "A." wrote:
> Time for some thread drift and non-gmc content. What you probably meant
> was, "What WOULD I do without my wife?"
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> When you asked, "What SHOULD I do without my wife?"
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> Lots of ideas: Sit around in your underwear and watch TV. Leave your dirty
> laundry wherever it hits the floor when you take it off. Pick your nose.
> Scratch whatever itches. Have the guys she can't stand over for a card
> game.
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> Ahh. Everyone needs a break now and then.
> --
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> '73 23' CanyonLands For Sale
> Upper Alabama
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| Re: [GMCnet] What should I do without my wife [message #288776 is a reply to message #288769] |
Wed, 14 October 2015 20:20 |
Jim Galbavy
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No big deal. Ada (my new SO) is also my scuba and golf partner. With
the motorhome she is my co-driver. Only issue is as I drive my coach
65 to 67 mph, she drives 70 to 75 mph while under total control. My issue
is she does it while I'm in the front passenger seat. Don't like that seat.
Oh, and she likes to watch NCIS and CASTLE. OK by me.
jim galbavy
'73 x-CL ANNIE
Lake Mary, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] What should I do without my wife [message #288780 is a reply to message #288755] |
Wed, 14 October 2015 20:50 |
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I think Appie made an unfortunate choice of words in a language not his own.
His subject probably should have read "What WOULD I do without my wife?" to reflect his actual meaning.
Neither I nor my wife can imagine how we would or will manage without the other after nearly 55 years of marriage!
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> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 16:59:06 -0600
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> From: markbb1@netzero.com
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] What should I do without my wife
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> James Hupy wrote on Wed, 14 October 2015 17:35
>>>> For one of the guys who have lost their wives, that lifestyle sucks. Never been too fond of leaving my underwear on the floor, or dirty dishes in
>> the sink, or the bed unmade. When the fog of depression lifts enough that you can function a bit, those kinds of tasks will get you through the day
>> until you encounter yet another sleepless night. Hope you never have to go through it.
>> Jim Hupy (now happily married again)
>> Salem, Or.
>> 78 GMC ROYALE 403
>> (THE WAYBACK MACHINE>>
> Its not a lifestyle. Its variety. I wouldn't want to live on fast food, but sometimes you just want a drive-thru burger, fries and shake.
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> '73 23' CanyonLands For Sale
> Upper Alabama
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| Re: What should I do without my wife [message #288783 is a reply to message #288742] |
Wed, 14 October 2015 21:43 |
cbryan
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Hey, appie,
Even though all were equally loose, I am concerned that the play has come from wear or a reseating of the races. If the races were not completely seated, then the looseness is explained. However, the bearings might have been damaged if they were loose from that cause. I would not want you to look out the toll window and see a wheel passing you. Maybe tighten up, loosen a bit, put in the cotter pin, and take it soon to a mechanic for repacking and inspection of the races and bearings. Super loose is not super good. I think because there are four bearings loose, that there was indeed likelihood of assembly error.
Best,
Carey
Carey from Ennis, Texas
78 Royale, 500 Cadillac, Rance Baxter EFI.
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| Re: What should I do without my wife [message #288793 is a reply to message #288742] |
Thu, 15 October 2015 02:02 |
appie
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No problem. Jim
And yes, as english is not my nativ language, i do make mistakes
I do not have documentation with me, but The rear wheels were taken apart by the po. Disk brakes and 4 bags installed. And pins? Maybe bearings to? All 4 wheels were loose so I still believe they were not installed the right way.
I still should have checked!
Finding a relyable workshop here in Southern Spain is a not realy a option
Appie
eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold
6 wheel discbrake
Quadrabags
Springfield stage 2 462 olds
Manny tranny
( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html
Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016
Denmark
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| Re: What should I do without my wife [message #288806 is a reply to message #288742] |
Thu, 15 October 2015 10:05 |
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And for thopse whose housemates, like Paula, Crank It Up, you can get a set of bluetooth headphones on eBay or Amazon for cheap. Saves a lot of 'turn it up - turn it down'.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
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| Re: What should I do without my wife [message #288825 is a reply to message #288742] |
Thu, 15 October 2015 17:13 |
cbryan
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Appie,
Just a suggestion, here. As a bare minimum, you could remove the wheel and drum off of the spindle of the one you deem the loosest, or requiring the greatest number of turns to tighten, wipe off spindle, look for wear, grooves, etc. You would have the outer in your hand, wipe it down, look at the grease for metal particles, look at the bearings themselves for spalling (longitudinal cracks), chips, pockmarks, missing rollers, blue color means they are heat damaged, (I think), damaged cage. If all OK, and bearing rotates smoothly against its race, then look at the bearing on the back side in the drum assembly, do the same. If all OK, repack, and ASSUME all four will get you home. If you find bearing or spindle damage, it's better in the campground than elsewhere. I think you could use the highest quality molybdenum wheel bearing grease you could find, failing Valvoline Synpower, I think Matt Colie uses. In about two weeks, your fingernails will be grown out enough to get rid of the black under them, unless you can work in those mechanic's gloves. On reassembly, careful not to damage the seal on the back. Check seal to see if was the wrong one and you got metal to metal rubbing. Chicago Rawhide is a good one, see Jims.
What does Loffen think? Yes, some mechanics have an attitude about working on old iron. Some attitudes are deep seated. It makes them feel worthless to work on something beneath them. They just don't give a toss. Or they (hard to believe), don't know how to seat bearing races. Maybe P.O. ran them up until they spun OK and slapped the pin in, but I find that hard to believe. You never know. It is so true you can't check everything, but with new engine, new tranny (didn't you get a new tranny?), certainly things are getting narrowed down.
Next question. How is the trip going? Are you having a great time notwithstanding challenges from time to time?
Carey
Carey from Ennis, Texas
78 Royale, 500 Cadillac, Rance Baxter EFI.
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| Re: [GMCnet] What should I do without my wife [message #288829 is a reply to message #288825] |
Thu, 15 October 2015 17:34 |
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USAussie
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Carey,
I'm sorry but I'm going to disagree with you as a bare minimum Appie should remove all four rear wheels, hubs and brake drums,
clean, inspect them all, replace the seals and re-grease them as per the maintenance manual.
If he can't find Valvoline Synpower in Europe he might be able to find Caterpillar Desert Gold which is what I use here in Sydney
because I can't buy Valvoline Synpower here.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Carey Bryan
Appie,
Just a suggestion, here. As a bare minimum, you could remove the wheel and drum off of the spindle of the one you deem the loosest,
or requiring the greatest number of turns to tighten, wipe off spindle, look for wear, grooves, etc. You would have the outer in
your hand, wipe it down, look at the grease for metal particles, look at the bearings themselves for spalling (longitudinal cracks),
chips, pockmarks, missing rollers, blue color means they are heat damaged, (I think), damaged cage. If all OK, and bearing rotates
smoothly against its race, then look at the bearing on the back side in the drum assembly, do the same. If all OK, repack, and
ASSUME all four will get you home. If you find bearing or spindle damage, it's better in the campground than elsewhere. I think
you could use the highest quality molybdenum wheel bearing grease you could find, failing Valvoline Synpower, I think Matt Colie
uses. In about two weeks, your fingernails will be grown out enough to get rid of the black under them, unless you can work in
those mechanic's gloves. On reassembly, careful not to damage the seal on the back. Check seal to see if was the wrong one and you
got metal to metal
rubbing. Chicago Rawhide is a good one, see Jims.
What does Loffen think? Yes, some mechanics have an attitude about working on old iron. Some attitudes are deep seated. It makes
them feel worthless to work on something beneath them. They just don't give a toss. Or they (hard to believe), don't know how to
seat bearing races. Maybe P.O. ran them up until they spun OK and slapped the pin in, but I find that hard to believe. You never
know. It is so true you can't check everything, but with new engine, new tranny (didn't you get a new tranny?), certainly things
are getting narrowed down.
Next question. How is the trip going? Are you having a great time notwithstanding challenges from time to time?
Carey
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| Re: [GMCnet] What should I do without my wife [message #288834 is a reply to message #288829] |
Thu, 15 October 2015 18:26 |
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USAussie wrote on Thu, 15 October 2015 18:34Carey,
I'm sorry but I'm going to disagree with you as a bare minimum Appie should remove all four rear wheels, hubs and brake drums,
clean, inspect them all, replace the seals and re-grease them as per the maintenance manual.
If he can't find Valvoline Synpower in Europe he might be able to find Caterpillar Desert Gold which is what I use here in Sydney
because I can't buy Valvoline Synpower here.
Regards,
Rob M.
I disagree with both of you...
Many times I have been in the position of no help and no parts and wanted to get home.
Appie says that the bearings (I hope that is what you mean Appie.) are very loose. Tapered roller bearing can survive being run loose much better than being to tight.
If anything is disassembled, that greatly increases the risk of damage to something that he can't easily replace.
So, my suggestion would be, that while he has the tires off the ground, he pull both the inner and outer caps only and give it a look first.
Then, if nothing looks bad, remove the cotter (split) pin and try to tighten the nut that sets the bearing. If it tightens a little and the bearing feels smooth, then he can back it out to the next place that the pin can go back in. (Appie, remember that there are two drilled holes in the spindle. You may have to use the other.) If he shakes the top of the wheel in and out, he should be able to feel just a little bit of movement.
Appie, there are a lot of us here that would love to help you, but there is water problem between us. Be sure to let us know how it goes.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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