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Mon, 14 September 2015 10:07  |
Tom Whitton
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The Norcold 3-way model 663BK in our coach cools okay on AC but not good on LP. I haven't tried DC, which is always slow. We use LP 99% of the time when traveling, AC when on shore power, DC very seldom.
The gas flame is low and ragged. I suspect rust in the line but could be wrong. Can anyone suggest how this can be fixed without taking the unit out? I can see the gas lines but it's tight in there.
Thanks,
Tom Whitton
26 foot upgraded gMC
Paducah, KY
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator [message #287246 is a reply to message #287238] |
Mon, 14 September 2015 11:19  |
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Tom,
you have to take apart the burner and make sure it is clean. It is not difficult. That would be my step 1. you can google how that is done. If you really need instructions, send me a picture of what you are dealing with for access, and I can talk you through it.
The other concern, would be gas pressure at the fridge. The only way to be certain, is to test it. Easy way is to buy:
http://www.amazon.com/Yellow-Jacket-78060-Complete-Test/dp/B0016H12KS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1442247162&sr=8-1&keywords=LP++pressure+teste r
there is an allen screw that gets removed, and you hook this up, and it should tell you how much pressure you have. needs to be 11, not 10, not 9. stove, and other appliances really do not care so much about the gas pressure, but the fridge needs that full 11 inches/water column, to work well. I have fixed 3 fridge performance issues now because of slightly lower pressure at the fridge. Sometimes it is just the hot days that the fridge struggles.
if it is lower then 11, you normally would end up replacing the LP regulator at the main LP tank. or adjusting it(most are not adjustable, but I have ran into one that I was able to adjust the pressure up).
so you could swap out the LP pressure regulator at the LP tank, and hope that assures that a new part has the right pressure going out. and hope the fridge improves without testing at the fridge.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator [message #287267 is a reply to message #287238] |
Mon, 14 September 2015 14:39 |
Tom Whitton
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Jon,
Thanks, I will take the burner apart and clean it. If that doesn't work, I'll try to check the gas pressure. Hope the burner is the problem. The AC cools so maybe the pressure is okay. Hope so. I'll let you know.
Tom Whitton
26 ft upgraded GMC
Paducah, KY
Tom,
you have to take apart the burner and make sure it is clean. It is not difficult. That would be my step 1. you can google how that is done. If
you really need instructions, send me a picture of what you are dealing with for access, and I can talk you through it.
The other concern, would be gas pressure at the fridge. The only way to be certain, is to test it. Easy way is to buy:
http://www.amazon.com/Yellow-Jacket-78060-Complete-Test/dp/B0016H12KS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1442247162&sr=8-1&keywords=LP++pressure+teste r
there is an allen screw that gets removed, and you hook this up, and it should tell you how much pressure you have. needs to be 11, not 10, not 9.
stove, and other appliances really do not care so much about the gas pressure, but the fridge needs that full 11 inches/water column, to work well.
I have fixed 3 fridge performance issues now because of slightly lower pressure at the fridge. Sometimes it is just the hot days that the fridge
struggles.
if it is lower then 11, you normally would end up replacing the LP regulator at the main LP tank. or adjusting it(most are not adjustable, but I
have ran into one that I was able to adjust the pressure up).
so you could swap out the LP pressure regulator at the LP tank, and hope that assures that a new part has the right pressure going out. and hope the
fridge improves without testing at the fridge.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator [message #287293 is a reply to message #287238] |
Mon, 14 September 2015 20:18 |
Tom Whitton
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Jon,
Here's what I've done so far:
Using a mirror I taped the burner to see if the flame would become uniform and also took a thin wire with the flame going and ran it in and out of the holes. The flame is low but became uniform so I let it run on LP for a few hours this afternoon and then checked the temperature of the coils in the back that I assume carry ammonia. The bottom coil was 146 degrees, the temp at the top was about 89 degrees. From bottom to top, the temp of the coils in-between gradually decreased down to the 89 degrees. After that, I opened the refrigerator to check the temperature inside. It was about 82 degrees, actually hotter than ambient. The stack seemed pretty warm, too, as did the wood next to it. I had never in 15-years checked any of these temps and had never paid any attention to the temperature of the wood beside the stack. So the warm feel might be normal. Anyway, the refrigerator was not getting cool at all, it was getting dark so I shut everything off. That's where I stand now. Frankly, I was a little concerned about the heat. I may be a little paranoid given Bob Donohue's fire and the others shown today on the net.
Appreciate your thoughts.
Tom
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From: Tom Whitton
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Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator
Jon,
Thanks, I will take the burner apart and clean it. If that doesn't work, I'll try to check the gas pressure. Hope the burner is the problem. The AC cools so maybe the pressure is okay. Hope so. I'll let you know.
Tom Whitton
26 ft upgraded GMC
Paducah, KY
Tom,
you have to take apart the burner and make sure it is clean. It is not difficult. That would be my step 1. you can google how that is done. If
you really need instructions, send me a picture of what you are dealing with for access, and I can talk you through it.
The other concern, would be gas pressure at the fridge. The only way to be certain, is to test it. Easy way is to buy:
http://www.amazon.com/Yellow-Jacket-78060-Complete-Test/dp/B0016H12KS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1442247162&sr=8-1&keywords=LP++pressure+teste r
there is an allen screw that gets removed, and you hook this up, and it should tell you how much pressure you have. needs to be 11, not 10, not 9.
stove, and other appliances really do not care so much about the gas pressure, but the fridge needs that full 11 inches/water column, to work well.
I have fixed 3 fridge performance issues now because of slightly lower pressure at the fridge. Sometimes it is just the hot days that the fridge
struggles.
if it is lower then 11, you normally would end up replacing the LP regulator at the main LP tank. or adjusting it(most are not adjustable, but I
have ran into one that I was able to adjust the pressure up).
so you could swap out the LP pressure regulator at the LP tank, and hope that assures that a new part has the right pressure going out. and hope the
fridge improves without testing at the fridge.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator [message #287350 is a reply to message #287238] |
Tue, 15 September 2015 22:13 |
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Been there, done that...sort of.
opened the fridge door and found the interior was much higher than
ambient. Ours was a new fridge, still under warranty, and had the recall
mod in it. Took it to an authorized dealer, and they fiddle-fooled
around with it, and finally decided the cooling unit had failed. No
warranty, because it was installed in a GMC, and the lower vent is too
far from the bottom of the fridge compartment to fit their requirements.
Your installation is probably out of warranty, so all that is moot.
I ended up ordering a new cooling from the Amish folk. They have rebuilt
cooling units and new ones as well. the new one i got was about $700,
including shipping. Shipping will vary with your location, of course.
both the rebuilt and the new ones are better construction than the
original.
The Amish cooling unit rebuild guy
http://www.fixyourfridge.com
Leon Herschberger, owner
National RV Refrigeration
5660 N SR 5
Shipshewana, IN 46565
As to where to stat looking for a new cooling unit.
Try this link
http://www.rvcoolingunit.net/servlet/StoreFront
They advertise the Amish Cooling units.
RonC
On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 20:18:48 -0500 "Tom Whitton"
writes:
> Jon,
>
> Here's what I've done so far:
>
> Using a mirror I taped the burner to see if the flame would become
> uniform and also took a thin wire with the flame going and ran it in
> and out of the holes. The flame is low but became uniform so I let
> it run on LP for a few hours this afternoon and then checked the
> temperature of the coils in the back that I assume carry ammonia.
> The bottom coil was 146 degrees, the temp at the top was about 89
> degrees. From bottom to top, the temp of the coils in-between
> gradually decreased down to the 89 degrees. After that, I opened
> the refrigerator to check the temperature inside. It was about 82
> degrees, actually hotter than ambient. The stack seemed pretty
> warm, too, as did the wood next to it. I had never in 15-years
> checked any of these temps and had never paid any attention to the
> temperature of the wood beside the stack. So the warm feel might be
> normal. Anyway, the refrigerator was not getting cool at all, it
> was getting dark so I shut everything off. That's where I stand
> now. Frankly, I was a little concerned about the heat. I may be a
> little paranoid given Bob Donohue's fire and the others shown today
> on the net.
>
> Appreciate your thoughts.
>
> Tom
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Whitton
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 2:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator
>
>
> Jon,
>
> Thanks, I will take the burner apart and clean it. If that doesn't
> work, I'll try to check the gas pressure. Hope the burner is the
> problem. The AC cools so maybe the pressure is okay. Hope so.
> I'll let you know.
>
> Tom Whitton
> 26 ft upgraded GMC
> Paducah, KY
>
>
> Tom,
>
> you have to take apart the burner and make sure it is clean. It is
> not difficult. That would be my step 1. you can google how that is
> done. If
> you really need instructions, send me a picture of what you are
> dealing with for access, and I can talk you through it.
>
> The other concern, would be gas pressure at the fridge. The only way
> to be certain, is to test it. Easy way is to buy:
>
>
http://www.amazon.com/Yellow-Jacket-78060-Complete-Test/dp/B0016H12KS/ref
=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1442247162&sr=8-1&keywords=LP++pressure+tester
>
> there is an allen screw that gets removed, and you hook this up, and
> it should tell you how much pressure you have. needs to be 11, not
> 10, not 9.
> stove, and other appliances really do not care so much about the gas
> pressure, but the fridge needs that full 11 inches/water column, to
> work well.
> I have fixed 3 fridge performance issues now because of slightly
> lower pressure at the fridge. Sometimes it is just the hot days that
> the fridge
> struggles.
>
> if it is lower then 11, you normally would end up replacing the LP
> regulator at the main LP tank. or adjusting it(most are not
> adjustable, but I
> have ran into one that I was able to adjust the pressure up).
>
> so you could swap out the LP pressure regulator at the LP tank, and
> hope that assures that a new part has the right pressure going out.
> and hope the
> fridge improves without testing at the fridge.
>
> Jon Roche
> 75 palm beach
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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78 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator [message #287362 is a reply to message #287350] |
Wed, 16 September 2015 06:43 |
Jim at the Co-op
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rvcoolingunit.com not net carries the Fire Fight Products clean agent gas
auto deploy fire system for your frig if you want to be more protected from
fire with that frig. Shop around for prices David at .com is a great guy
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:13 PM, wrote:
> Been there, done that...sort of.
> opened the fridge door and found the interior was much higher than
> ambient. Ours was a new fridge, still under warranty, and had the recall
> mod in it. Took it to an authorized dealer, and they fiddle-fooled
> around with it, and finally decided the cooling unit had failed. No
> warranty, because it was installed in a GMC, and the lower vent is too
> far from the bottom of the fridge compartment to fit their requirements.
> Your installation is probably out of warranty, so all that is moot.
> I ended up ordering a new cooling from the Amish folk. They have rebuilt
> cooling units and new ones as well. the new one i got was about $700,
> including shipping. Shipping will vary with your location, of course.
> both the rebuilt and the new ones are better construction than the
> original.
>
>
> The Amish cooling unit rebuild guy
> http://www.fixyourfridge.com
>
> Leon Herschberger, owner
> National RV Refrigeration
> 5660 N SR 5
> Shipshewana, IN 46565
>
>
> As to where to stat looking for a new cooling unit.
> Try this link
> http://www.rvcoolingunit.net/servlet/StoreFront
> They advertise the Amish Cooling units.
>
> RonC
>
>
>
> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 20:18:48 -0500 "Tom Whitton"
> writes:
>> Jon,
>>
>> Here's what I've done so far:
>>
>> Using a mirror I taped the burner to see if the flame would become
>> uniform and also took a thin wire with the flame going and ran it in
>> and out of the holes. The flame is low but became uniform so I let
>> it run on LP for a few hours this afternoon and then checked the
>> temperature of the coils in the back that I assume carry ammonia.
>> The bottom coil was 146 degrees, the temp at the top was about 89
>> degrees. From bottom to top, the temp of the coils in-between
>> gradually decreased down to the 89 degrees. After that, I opened
>> the refrigerator to check the temperature inside. It was about 82
>> degrees, actually hotter than ambient. The stack seemed pretty
>> warm, too, as did the wood next to it. I had never in 15-years
>> checked any of these temps and had never paid any attention to the
>> temperature of the wood beside the stack. So the warm feel might be
>> normal. Anyway, the refrigerator was not getting cool at all, it
>> was getting dark so I shut everything off. That's where I stand
>> now. Frankly, I was a little concerned about the heat. I may be a
>> little paranoid given Bob Donohue's fire and the others shown today
>> on the net.
>>
>> Appreciate your thoughts.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Tom Whitton
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 2:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator
>>
>>
>> Jon,
>>
>> Thanks, I will take the burner apart and clean it. If that doesn't
>> work, I'll try to check the gas pressure. Hope the burner is the
>> problem. The AC cools so maybe the pressure is okay. Hope so.
>> I'll let you know.
>>
>> Tom Whitton
>> 26 ft upgraded GMC
>> Paducah, KY
>>
>>
>> Tom,
>>
>> you have to take apart the burner and make sure it is clean. It is
>> not difficult. That would be my step 1. you can google how that is
>> done. If
>> you really need instructions, send me a picture of what you are
>> dealing with for access, and I can talk you through it.
>>
>> The other concern, would be gas pressure at the fridge. The only way
>> to be certain, is to test it. Easy way is to buy:
>>
>>
> http://www.amazon.com/Yellow-Jacket-78060-Complete-Test/dp/B0016H12KS/ref
> =sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1442247162&sr=8-1&keywords=LP++pressure+tester
>>
>> there is an allen screw that gets removed, and you hook this up, and
>> it should tell you how much pressure you have. needs to be 11, not
>> 10, not 9.
>> stove, and other appliances really do not care so much about the gas
>> pressure, but the fridge needs that full 11 inches/water column, to
>> work well.
>> I have fixed 3 fridge performance issues now because of slightly
>> lower pressure at the fridge. Sometimes it is just the hot days that
>> the fridge
>> struggles.
>>
>> if it is lower then 11, you normally would end up replacing the LP
>> regulator at the main LP tank. or adjusting it(most are not
>> adjustable, but I
>> have ran into one that I was able to adjust the pressure up).
>>
>> so you could swap out the LP pressure regulator at the LP tank, and
>> hope that assures that a new part has the right pressure going out.
>> and hope the
>> fridge improves without testing at the fridge.
>>
>> Jon Roche
>> 75 palm beach
>> St. Cloud, MN
>> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
>> _______________________________________________
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> North Plains, ORYGUN
> 78 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator [message #287375 is a reply to message #287238] |
Wed, 16 September 2015 10:10 |
lqqkatjon
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Ok,
I am no expert, so you now have me nervous about any information I might give you causing a fire.... so please do not shoot the messenger.
my understanding is that the cooling unit works the same on 110V AC as it does with gas. the difference is the AC will heat the tube with an electrical heater, and the gas flame heats almost the same area using flame heat. So if the fridge works fine on AC power, the cooling unit is not the problem, it is how the flame is heating.
the other thing to check, would most probably need to pull the fridge forward and out of the hole in order to work on it. That should not be all that difficult? mine is held in by a couple of hidden screws in the front, you take the gas line off, and it pulls outward. just rest it on a milk crate or something.
this picture:
http://s39.photobucket.com/user/AnEv942/media/P7200062b.jpg.html
shows basically a chimney, and you can pull that rod out, and you will find this on the end:
http://s816.photobucket.com/user/rpbelmont34/media/P4230349.jpg.html
blow some air down that tube, make sure that twisy metal is there and not all charred up, or causing issues.
basically the heat from the flame, goes up that tube, hits that twisty metal, that causes the rise in heat right at that location to boil the chemical in the cooling unit at that point. then exits the top and up and out the roof vent.
as far as what temps are acceptable at different locations, I do not know that information. I do know they get hot and I would not touch certain parts.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator [message #287389 is a reply to message #287238] |
Wed, 16 September 2015 14:07 |
Tom Whitton
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Jon and all who made suggestions about my refrigerator,
Given the fact that I don't know beans about refrigeration and have a fear of fire because of Bob Dunahugh's fire and the fact that fire destroyed my '57 T-Bird some time back, I have decided to take the refrigerator out of the coach to have it repaired by a professional. There is a place near here that specializes in RV refrigerators. It is named Ford RV Refrigeration, Benton, KY. Apparently, they service and sell RV refrigerators and train people from other areas to work on them so they can operate their own refrigerator businesses. I have talked with them but haven't been to the place yet. If any of you know anything about this place or their services, please let me know. I plan to use them, unless I receive bad reports. I will report my experiences here, including what they did, how long it took and what it cost.
Thanks,
Tom Whitton
26 ft updated GMC
Paducah, KY
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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 09:10:26 -0600
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Ok,
I am no expert, so you now have me nervous about any information I might give you causing a fire.... so please do not shoot the messenger.
my understanding is that the cooling unit works the same on 110V AC as it does with gas. the difference is the AC will heat the tube with an
electrical heater, and the gas flame heats almost the same area using flame heat. So if the fridge works fine on AC power, the cooling unit is not
the problem, it is how the flame is heating.
the other thing to check, would most probably need to pull the fridge forward and out of the hole in order to work on it. That should not be all that
difficult? mine is held in by a couple of hidden screws in the front, you take the gas line off, and it pulls outward. just rest it on a milk
crate or something.
this picture:
http://s39.photobucket.com/user/AnEv942/media/P7200062b.jpg.html
shows basically a chimney, and you can pull that rod out, and you will find this on the end:
http://s816.photobucket.com/user/rpbelmont34/media/P4230349.jpg.html
blow some air down that tube, make sure that twisy metal is there and not all charred up, or causing issues.
basically the heat from the flame, goes up that tube, hits that twisty metal, that causes the rise in heat right at that location to boil the
chemical in the cooling unit at that point. then exits the top and up and out the roof vent.
as far as what temps are acceptable at different locations, I do not know that information. I do know they get hot and I would not touch certain
parts.
--
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
St. Cloud, MN
http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator [message #287392 is a reply to message #287238] |
Wed, 16 September 2015 14:54 |
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Tom,
Discuss how it is installed with them as well and how your venting/airflow is. That is important.
It is difficult in gmc, and my recent research is that norcold instructions vs dometic instructions are differernt.
I was able to meet all requirements on the dometic installaion i did that was per a couple manuals.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator [message #287395 is a reply to message #287389] |
Wed, 16 September 2015 15:21 |
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> From: tomwhitton@bellsouth.net
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:07:30 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator
>
> Jon and all who made suggestions about my refrigerator,
>
> Given the fact that I don't know beans about refrigeration and have a fear of fire because of Bob Dunahugh's fire and the fact that fire destroyed my '57 T-Bird some time back, I have decided to take the refrigerator out of the coach to have it repaired by a professional. There is a place near here that specializes in RV refrigerators. It is named Ford RV Refrigeration, Benton, KY. Apparently, they service and sell RV refrigerators and train people from other areas to work on them so they can operate their own refrigerator businesses. I have talked with them but haven't been to the place yet. If any of you know anything about this place or their services, please let me know. I plan to use them, unless I receive bad reports. I will report my experiences here, including what they did, how long it took and what it cost.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Whitton
> 26 ft updated GMC
> Paducah, KY
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator [message #287401 is a reply to message #287238] |
Wed, 16 September 2015 15:55 |
Rick Williams
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Tom
Going back to your original post. You said that the frig "cools ok" on AC. The freezer should get to about 10 degrees and the frig should be somewhere around 40 degrees. Of course, it takes many hours to get to there. Have you measured any temps on AC?
Rick
Rick Williams
Bliss, Michigan
1978 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator [message #287430 is a reply to message #287238] |
Thu, 17 September 2015 00:09 |
Tom Whitton
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Rick and everyone interested in this subject,
The fact that the refrigerator cooled somewhat on AC but didn't on LP has me stumped. I measured the temps on both AC and LP. My refrigerator didn't get close to the temps you mentioned so it's simply not cooling. The fires that we have read about with refrigerators being possibly to blame have made me cautious. As I said on the last post, I don't know beans about refrigeration, so I have decided to seek out professionals. It so happens that there is a business in my area that deals in exactly the expertise I need so I'm going to go to them unless I hear something bad about them, which so far I haven't. Here's their web site: http://rvrefrigeration.com/ If I lived closer to northern Indiana I would see one of the refrigeration businesses in that area.
Now, for the first time, I've thought about the fact that these RV refrigerators have an unattended flame that may have caused fires in our GMC motorhomes, I want to take every possible safety step I can. I normally dive into everything on the coach myself but not this time. As a first step, rather than doing it myself, I'm going to have the refrigerator repaired by someone who is experienced, with reputation for of safe, quality work.
I'll report everything about the experience.
Thanks and all the best,
Tom Whitton
26 ft upgraded GMC
Paducah, KY
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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:55:27 -0600
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator
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Tom
Going back to your original post. You said that the frig "cools ok" on AC. The freezer should get to about 10 degrees and the frig should be
somewhere around 40 degrees. Of course, it takes many hours to get to there. Have you measured any temps on AC?
Rick
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Bliss, Michigan
1978 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator [message #287434 is a reply to message #287430] |
Thu, 17 September 2015 07:50 |
roy1
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If I remember correctly the refrigerator recall modifications that I have seen are sensors installed that shut down the refrigerator when a certain piping area exceeds a preset temperature that has been caused by a malfunction of the refrigeration system. This would be to prevent a fire in the area around the refrigerator.
Roy Keen
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76 X Glenbrook
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator [message #287643 is a reply to message #287430] |
Sun, 20 September 2015 18:39 |
powwerjon
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Tom,
Leon at RV Refrigeration is the man when it comes to fixing or repairing your frig! I have been to his shop several times. They are reasonably priced for repairs and rebuilds. Make your appointment and he can unusually have it fixed the same day.
J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
GMCGL Tech Editor
GMC Eastern States
GMCMI
78 Buskirk 30' Stretch
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
> On Sep 17, 2015, at 12:09 AM, Tom Whitton wrote:
>
> Rick and everyone interested in this subject,
>
> The fact that the refrigerator cooled somewhat on AC but didn't on LP has me stumped. I measured the temps on both AC and LP. My refrigerator didn't get close to the temps you mentioned so it's simply not cooling. The fires that we have read about with refrigerators being possibly to blame have made me cautious. As I said on the last post, I don't know beans about refrigeration, so I have decided to seek out professionals. It so happens that there is a business in my area that deals in exactly the expertise I need so I'm going to go to them unless I hear something bad about them, which so far I haven't. Here's their web site: http://rvrefrigeration.com/ If I lived closer to northern Indiana I would see one of the refrigeration businesses in that area.
>
> Now, for the first time, I've thought about the fact that these RV refrigerators have an unattended flame that may have caused fires in our GMC motorhomes, I want to take every possible safety step I can. I normally dive into everything on the coach myself but not this time. As a first step, rather than doing it myself, I'm going to have the refrigerator repaired by someone who is experienced, with reputation for of safe, quality work.
>
> I'll report everything about the experience.
>
> Thanks and all the best,
>
> Tom Whitton
> 26 ft upgraded GMC
> Paducah, KY
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>
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 14:55:27 -0600
> From: Rick Williams
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 3-way Norcold Refrigerator
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Tom
>
> Going back to your original post. You said that the frig "cools ok" on AC. The freezer should get to about 10 degrees and the frig should be
> somewhere around 40 degrees. Of course, it takes many hours to get to there. Have you measured any temps on AC?
>
> Rick
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> Rick Williams
> Bliss, Michigan
> 1978 Eleganza II
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