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Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #287158] Sat, 12 September 2015 20:35 Go to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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Delphi make a series of ride height sensors, they all are designed for a specific car, some are close but none are exactly what I need.
They all use the same sensor body with different brackets screwed to it.

Do any of you old GM guys know how to get parts from Delphi?
Or do I have to be a major company to get anything?

What I'd really like is the base sensor without the model specific bracketry, IF it's cheaper that way.

Otherwise I can buy one, pull the existing bracket off and put my own on.

But I'd rather buy than build Smile


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Re: Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #287159 is a reply to message #287158] Sat, 12 September 2015 21:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Do you have the part numbers?

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Re: Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #287162 is a reply to message #287159] Sat, 12 September 2015 22:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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the part numbers I have are for the whole assemblies.

http://www.delphi.com/manufacturers/auto/sensors/chassis/noncontact/
ER10010 to ER10036
But they all have the brackets I don't need


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Re: Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #287167 is a reply to message #287162] Sun, 13 September 2015 09:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Here is a link to Delphi's aftermarket parts sales. They may be available through auto parts stores. I have purchased Delphi parts through Amazon too.

https://www.delphiautoparts.com/en/

Here's the thing; if the part you are looking for was developed for a specific manufacturer and application, then the manufacturer (such as GM or Toyota) owns the tooling and probably has an exclusive right to the uses of those tools. If this is the case then the only way to obtain that specific part is through that manufacturers parts catalog and distribution channel.


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Re: Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #287172 is a reply to message #287158] Sun, 13 September 2015 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Keith V wrote on Sat, 12 September 2015 19:35
Delphi make a series of ride height sensors, they all are designed for a specific car, some are close but none are exactly what I need.
They all use the same sensor body with different brackets screwed to it.

Do any of you old GM guys know how to get parts from Delphi?
Or do I have to be a major company to get anything?

What I'd really like is the base sensor without the model specific bracketry, IF it's cheaper that way.

Otherwise I can buy one, pull the existing bracket off and put my own on.

But I'd rather buy than build Smile


Keith, I surprised to even see parts sold to consumers under the Delphi brand. Most of that stuff is sold by Delco.


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Re: Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #287208 is a reply to message #287172] Sun, 13 September 2015 23:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob de Kruyff wrote on Sun, 13 September 2015 11:12


Keith, I surprised to even see parts sold to consumers under the Delphi brand. Most of that stuff is sold by Delco.


When Delphi split from GM, GM kept the "ACDelco" name and sources parts from several suppliers under the brand. Delphi now sells a majority of their parts to non-GM auto companies, so the two entities are drifting farther apart.

Keith, I did a quick internet search and found this;

http://www.amazon.com/Delphi-ER10010-Rotary-Position-Sensor/dp/B0046AHNAA


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Re: Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #287242 is a reply to message #287208] Mon, 14 September 2015 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[quote title=mrgmc3 wrote on Sun, 13 September 2015 23:01]Bob de Kruyff wrote on Sun, 13 September 2015 11:12



Keith, I did a quick internet search and found this;

http://www.amazon.com/Delphi-ER10010-Rotary-Position-Sensor/dp/B0046AHNAA


Thats one version of the sensor I want to use.
What I want is just the round body with no brackets since I cant find one that has exactly what I need and have to make my own.
If this is not possible, I'll just buy the cheapest one and swap parts.

I did find a contact and have sent them an info request.


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Re: Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #288437 is a reply to message #287158] Fri, 09 October 2015 16:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Keith,
How did you make out with the Delphi ride height sensor? Did you get a source for them?

Here is a Honeywell sensor that may work:

http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1514349.pdf

Rated IP67 and is a Hall-Effect device so it should last for a long time. Linear output.


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Re: Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #288467 is a reply to message #288437] Sat, 10 October 2015 10:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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my current plan is to buy a Delphi one and reuse some of the parts, I found one with an arm that works, I just have to redrill it.
Then make a mounting plate and off we go.
I can get them from Rock auto, so I'm happy


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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #288547 is a reply to message #288467] Mon, 12 October 2015 08:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Keep us posted on how this works, I seem to go through a height sensor
every year.

Thanks.

On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Keith V wrote:
> my current plan is to buy a Delphi one and reuse some of the parts, I found one with an arm that works, I just have to redrill it.
> Then make a mounting plate and off we go.
> I can get them from Rock auto, so I'm happy
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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #288555 is a reply to message #288547] Mon, 12 October 2015 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ray Erspamer wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 08:54
Keep us posted on how this works, I seem to go through a height sensor
every year.

Thanks.




Thats what started this, my 2 year old height sensor failed and my dash controls leaked.
The cost to replace it all with a dumb manual system was too much for me to bear.
I write control systems firmware for a living, so I couldn't resist the challenge.

Here's the new height sensor.


http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6645/medium/P1090136.JPG


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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #288558 is a reply to message #288555] Mon, 12 October 2015 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How does the wiring tie in to this new one. I know coming from the coach:

Ground(s) = Blacks
Power = 2 grays (left) or 2 greens (right)
Lower = Yellow Dbl Black Stripe (left) or Pink Dbl Black Stripe (right)
Raise = Light Green Dbl Black Stripe (left) or Light Blue Dbl Black
Stripe (right)

Also, what is the cost of this new one.

GOOD STUFF Keith !!!


On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Keith V wrote:
> Ray Erspamer wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 08:54
>> Keep us posted on how this works, I seem to go through a height sensor
>> every year.
>>
>> Thanks.
>
>
> Thats what started this, my 2 year old height sensor failed and my dash controls leaked.
> The cost to replace it all with a dumb manual system was too much for me to bear.
> I write control systems firmware for a living, so I couldn't resist the challenge.
>
> Here's the new height sensor.
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6645/medium/P1090136.JPG
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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #288565 is a reply to message #288558] Mon, 12 October 2015 11:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ray Erspamer wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 10:57
How does the wiring tie in to this new one. I know coming from the coach:

Ground(s) = Blacks
Power = 2 grays (left) or 2 greens (right)
Lower = Yellow Dbl Black Stripe (left) or Pink Dbl Black Stripe (right)
Raise = Light Green Dbl Black Stripe (left) or Light Blue Dbl Black
Stripe (right)

Also, what is the cost of this new one.

GOOD STUFF Keith !!!




Ooops.. I sense a disconnect.
This sensor does not replace the electrolevel sensor, although that would be a good project!
This sensor works with a whole new controller that provides up/down/travel/campground leveling a handheld RF remote and steering wheel controls.



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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #288594 is a reply to message #288565] Mon, 12 October 2015 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tell me more about this new system, very interesting.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Keith V wrote:
> Ray Erspamer wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 10:57
>> How does the wiring tie in to this new one. I know coming from the coach:
>>
>> Ground(s) = Blacks
>> Power = 2 grays (left) or 2 greens (right)
>> Lower = Yellow Dbl Black Stripe (left) or Pink Dbl Black Stripe (right)
>> Raise = Light Green Dbl Black Stripe (left) or Light Blue Dbl Black
>> Stripe (right)
>>
>> Also, what is the cost of this new one.
>>
>> GOOD STUFF Keith !!!
>
>
> Ooops.. I sense a disconnect.
> This sensor does not replace the electrolevel sensor, although that would be a good project!
> This sensor works with a whole new controller that provides up/down/travel/campground leveling a handheld RF remote and steering wheel controls.
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #288628 is a reply to message #288594] Tue, 13 October 2015 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ray Erspamer wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 17:27
Tell me more about this new system, very interesting.



Sure Smile
I've discussed it before here and there.
Like I said, it's a microprocessor controlled system, Atmega if you're curious. It controls 4 solenoid valves and reads 2 analog height sensors.
It has 2 RF 4 button remotes, one is handheld an control each side up and down. It's used to dump, change tires or just show off. the other remote is the steering control. It is mounted on the steering wheel. It has up/down travel and camp buttons.

So there are 3 modes.
1. manual mode, you can raise and lower the coach using the up down buttons on the remotes or the panel switches. The controller will switch from camp or travel if any of the manual buttons are pressed.
2. travel mode, this uses the calibrated travel height
3. Camp mode. this uses an accelerometer and auto levels the coach to a calibrated level.

The system shuts down with the ignition and remembers it's last mode. So if you are in travel, get out and get gas, when you get back in it will return to travel mode ( unless you pressed a manual button )

Travel height is programmed requiring no mechanical adjustments. You just put it into travel mode and press the calibrate button. Then you can use the RF remote to set the ride height. You only need to do this once. there is no stiction or hysterysis to worry about since it's actually measuring height. You set the height and it's done, no driving around, no jumping on bumpers.

It's extremely accurate, It can sense me leaning side to side in the drivers seat. No it does not try to control to that level, the height sensors have very long duration filters and a little hysteresis.

I predict costs will be in line with a new set of JR slatten valves

Any questions?


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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #288631 is a reply to message #288628] Tue, 13 October 2015 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Really outstanding Keith. I may be more interested at a later date,
I'm buried right now with winterizing things and getting ready for the
colder season coming. I will contact you later.

Thanks for the info.

Ray


On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Keith V wrote:
> Ray Erspamer wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 17:27
>> Tell me more about this new system, very interesting.
>
>
> Sure :)
> I've discussed it before here and there.
> Like I said, it's a microprocessor controlled system, Atmega if you're curious. It controls 4 solenoid valves and reads 2 analog height sensors.
> It has 2 RF 4 button remotes, one is handheld an control each side up and down. It's used to dump, change tires or just show off. the other remote is
> the steering control. It is mounted on the steering wheel. It has up/down travel and camp buttons.
>
> So there are 3 modes.
> 1. manual mode, you can raise and lower the coach using the up down buttons on the remotes or the panel switches. The controller will switch from camp
> or travel if any of the manual buttons are pressed.
> 2. travel mode, this uses the calibrated travel height
> 3. Camp mode. this uses an accelerometer and auto levels the coach to a calibrated level.
>
> The system shuts down with the ignition and remembers it's last mode. So if you are in travel, get out and get gas, when you get back in it will
> return to travel mode ( unless you pressed a manual button )
>
> Travel height is programmed requiring no mechanical adjustments. You just put it into travel mode and press the calibrate button. Then you can use the
> RF remote to set the ride height. You only need to do this once. there is no stiction or hysterysis to worry about since it's actually measuring
> height. You set the height and it's done, no driving around, no jumping on bumpers.
>
> It's extremely accurate, It can sense me leaning side to side in the drivers seat. No it does not try to control to that level, the height sensors
> have very long duration filters and a little hysteresis.
>
> I predict costs will be in line with a new set of JR slatten valves
>
> Any questions?
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #288636 is a reply to message #288631] Tue, 13 October 2015 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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good, it's not quite ready yet anyway.
I'm hoping for a spring release


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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #288641 is a reply to message #288636] Tue, 13 October 2015 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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alpha prototype


http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6645/medium/microlevel.jpg


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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #288654 is a reply to message #288636] Tue, 13 October 2015 14:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Put me on the the list have just replaced a couple of solenoids seems to hold better but like the idea of the remote for dumping the tanks.
Keith V wrote on Tue, 13 October 2015 12:40
good, it's not quite ready yet anyway.
I'm hoping for a spring release



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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone know how to buy Delphi parts? [message #288673 is a reply to message #288628] Tue, 13 October 2015 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Keith,

I'm impressed with your design. There is one point that I'm not sure I
understand correctly -- I hope not: "...

when you get back in it will
return to travel mode ( unless you pressed a manual button )
​"

​IMHO, you should include some method for the remote to return the system
to travel mode (and preferably power the compressor). I'm probably not the
only one who lowers the rear of the coach when dumping the holding tanks;
it would be nice to have the system go ahead and return to travel height
when I'm finished. Folks waiting behind me at the dump station would
probably appreciate it too. :-)

That feature is so important to me that I have a 120 vac compressor which
is used only for that purpose: My macerators controls are behind the tag,
along with switches for left & right suspension dump valves, and a push
button which activates that large compressor. Full down to full up takes
about 30 seconds. ​


Ken H.


On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:02 PM, Keith V wrote:

> Ray Erspamer wrote on Mon, 12 October 2015 17:27
>> Tell me more about this new system, very interesting.
>
>
> Sure :)
> I've discussed it before here and there.
> Like I said, it's a microprocessor controlled system, Atmega if you're
> curious. It controls 4 solenoid valves and reads 2 analog height sensors.
> It has 2 RF 4 button remotes, one is handheld an control each side up and
> down. It's used to dump, change tires or just show off. the other remote is
> the steering control. It is mounted on the steering wheel. It has up/down
> travel and camp buttons.
>
> So there are 3 modes.
> 1. manual mode, you can raise and lower the coach using the up down
> buttons on the remotes or the panel switches. The controller will switch
> from camp
> or travel if any of the manual buttons are pressed.
> 2. travel mode, this uses the calibrated travel height
> 3. Camp mode. this uses an accelerometer and auto levels the coach to a
> calibrated level.
>
> The system shuts down with the ignition and remembers it's last mode. So
> if you are in travel, get out and get gas,
> ​​
> ​​
> when you get back in it will
> return to travel mode ( unless you pressed a manual button )
>
> Travel height is programmed requiring no mechanical adjustments. You just
> put it into travel mode and press the calibrate button. Then you can use the
> RF remote to set the ride height. You only need to do this once. there is
> no stiction or hysterysis to worry about since it's actually measuring
> height. You set the height and it's done, no driving around, no jumping on
> bumpers.
>
> It's extremely accurate, It can sense me leaning side to side in the
> drivers seat. No it does not try to control to that level, the height
> sensors
> have very long duration filters and a little hysteresis.
>
> I predict costs will be in line with a new set of JR slatten valves
>
> Any questions?
> --
> Keith Vasilakes
> Mounds View. MN
> 75 ex Royale GMC
> 69 Vette
> 29 Dodge
>
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