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Spring Washer on Powerlevel knob [message #285976] Thu, 27 August 2015 10:49 Go to next message
Tilerpep is currently offline  Tilerpep   United States
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I was ready to tear into my powerlevel controls because one side would not raise. Newly discovered after getting a functional/automatic air compressor and then troubleshooting the next round...

Pulling it apart, discovered how it works (ramp pushes one of the three valves) and that a PO or mechanic lost a spring washer that sits between the knob itself and the retaining bolt, and it simply wasn't pushing hard enough on valve. Never would have figured this out if both springs had been lost. Anyone have an unused spring they will drop in the mail to me (Please PM), or know where to find a replacement? Ace Hardware, HD, Lowes, etc trips left me thinking this is not generic.

Thanks,
Tyler


1975 Glenbrook, 1978 Royale rear bath Raleigh, NC
Re: Spring Washer on Powerlevel knob [message #285983 is a reply to message #285976] Thu, 27 August 2015 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thesmith is currently offline  thesmith   United States
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Tried mcmaster?

http://www.mcmaster.com/#spring-washers/=yoh11v


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Re: Spring Washer on Powerlevel knob [message #285984 is a reply to message #285976] Thu, 27 August 2015 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tilerpep wrote on Thu, 27 August 2015 08:49
I was ready to tear into my powerlevel controls because one side would not raise. Newly discovered after getting a functional/automatic air compressor and then troubleshooting the next round...

Pulling it apart, discovered how it works (ramp pushes one of the three valves) and that a PO or mechanic lost a spring washer that sits between the knob itself and the retaining bolt, and it simply wasn't pushing hard enough on valve. Never would have figured this out if both springs had been lost. Anyone have an unused spring they will drop in the mail to me (Please PM), or know where to find a replacement? Ace Hardware, HD, Lowes, etc trips left me thinking this is not generic.

Thanks,
Tyler



The bigger Ace Hardware stores in my area usually have a selection of things like that. I think I would start there. Also, Many people have upgraded to the JR Slaten brass valves (http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/738) and may have a set of the old valves around. Maybe you can find someone willing to part with the whole assembly that you can rob for parts. Applied also sells a repair kit for the original valves (http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/953)


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Re: Spring Washer on Powerlevel knob [message #285986 is a reply to message #285976] Thu, 27 August 2015 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
C Boyd is currently offline  C Boyd   United States
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Sir, I have run across plastic knobs worn enough that they would not push the brass button enough.


Tilerpep wrote on Thu, 27 August 2015 11:49
I was ready to tear into my powerlevel controls because one side would not raise. Newly discovered after getting a functional/automatic air compressor and then troubleshooting the next round...

Pulling it apart, discovered how it works (ramp pushes one of the three valves) and that a PO or mechanic lost a spring washer that sits between the knob itself and the retaining bolt, and it simply wasn't pushing hard enough on valve. Never would have figured this out if both springs had been lost. Anyone have an unused spring they will drop in the mail to me (Please PM), or know where to find a replacement? Ace Hardware, HD, Lowes, etc trips left me thinking this is not generic.

Thanks,
Tyler



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East Tennessee
Re: [GMCnet] Spring Washer on Powerlevel knob [message #285987 is a reply to message #285976] Thu, 27 August 2015 13:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Worobec is currently offline  Gary Worobec   United States
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If you are ever looking for new valves these ones from JR Slaten are
awesome. $325.00 but you only cry once!!

http://www.bdub.net/slaten/index.html


Thanks,

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA



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Subject: [GMCnet] Spring Washer on Powerlevel knob

I was ready to tear into my powerlevel controls because one side would not
raise. Newly discovered after getting a functional/automatic air compressor
and then troubleshooting the next round...

Pulling it apart, discovered how it works (ramp pushes one of the three
valves) and that a PO or mechanic lost a spring washer that sits between the
knob itself and the retaining bolt, and it simply wasn't pushing hard enough
on valve. Never would have figured this out if both springs had been lost.
Anyone have an unused spring they will drop in the mail to me (Please PM),
or know where to find a replacement? Ace Hardware, HD, Lowes, etc trips left
me thinking this is not generic.

Thanks,
Tyler
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Raleigh, NC

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[GMCnet] Spring Washer on Powerlevel knob [message #286016 is a reply to message #285987] Fri, 28 August 2015 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Or
There is this
http://gmcmotorhome.info/wireless.html
Or
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=o.183025891821956&type=1

😆



On Thursday, August 27, 2015, Gary Worobec wrote:

> If you are ever looking for new valves these ones from JR Slaten are
> awesome. $325.00 but you only cry once!!
>
> http://www.bdub.net/slaten/index.html
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary and Joanne Worobec
> 1973 GMC Glacier
> Anza, CA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@list.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Tyler
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 8:50 AM
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Spring Washer on Powerlevel knob
>
> I was ready to tear into my powerlevel controls because one side would not
> raise. Newly discovered after getting a functional/automatic air compressor
> and then troubleshooting the next round...
>
> Pulling it apart, discovered how it works (ramp pushes one of the three
> valves) and that a PO or mechanic lost a spring washer that sits between
> the
> knob itself and the retaining bolt, and it simply wasn't pushing hard
> enough
> on valve. Never would have figured this out if both springs had been lost.
> Anyone have an unused spring they will drop in the mail to me (Please PM),
> or know where to find a replacement? Ace Hardware, HD, Lowes, etc trips
> left
> me thinking this is not generic.
>
> Thanks,
> Tyler
> --
> 1975 Glenbrook
> Raleigh, NC
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Re: [GMCnet] Spring Washer on Powerlevel knob [message #286020 is a reply to message #286016] Fri, 28 August 2015 09:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gene,

Just one little problem.
He asking about a simple spring washer to make an otherwise functional PowerLevel system work as it should.
This will be much less effort and cost than installing the Wireless NeverLevel system.

Matt

Mr ERFisher wrote on Fri, 28 August 2015 09:28
Or
There is this
http://gmcmotorhome.info/wireless.html
Or
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=o.183025891821956&type=1

😆

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Re: [GMCnet] Spring Washer on Powerlevel knob [message #286024 is a reply to message #286020] Fri, 28 August 2015 10:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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Yep
IF IT AINT BROKE
DONT FIX IT

On Friday, August 28, 2015, Matt Colie wrote:

> Gene,
>
> Just one little problem.
> He asking about a simple spring washer to make an otherwise functional
> PowerLevel system work as it should.
> This will be much less effort and cost than installing the Wireless
> NeverLevel system.
>
> Matt
>
> Mr ERFisher wrote on Fri, 28 August 2015 09:28
>> Or
>> There is this
>> http://gmcmotorhome.info/wireless.html
>> Or
>> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=o.183025891821956&type=1
>>
>> 😆
>>
>> --
>> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
>> "Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
>
>
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - Members GMCMI, GMCES
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Re: Spring Washer on Powerlevel knob [message #286038 is a reply to message #285976] Fri, 28 August 2015 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ha - yep, just looking for a 50 cent washer with an envelope really...I don't have a micrometer to figure out dimensions for McMaster carr, might still go that route. Someone that has time to pull one and a micrometer might tell me the dimensions to determine which one from this page to order

http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-disc-springs/=yojnrq

They call them "wave disc springs"

Chuck's idea about worn plastic knob ramps I verified out by swapping the one spring and both sides work fine if they are the side with the spring.

I looked in the parts book, page 14-6, no love.

Donors or measurers hoped for...



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Re: [GMCnet] Spring Washer on Powerlevel knob [message #286042 is a reply to message #286020] Fri, 28 August 2015 14:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Matt Colie wrote on Fri, 28 August 2015 09:14
Gene,

Just one little problem.
He asking about a simple spring washer to make an otherwise functional PowerLevel system work as it should.
This will be much less effort and cost than installing the Wireless NeverLevel system.

Matt



Dang it Matt!, now I spit my coffee all over my keyboard Very Happy


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Re: Spring Washer on Powerlevel knob [message #286046 is a reply to message #286038] Fri, 28 August 2015 14:51 Go to previous message
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Tilerpep wrote on Fri, 28 August 2015 13:00
Ha - yep, just looking for a 50 cent washer with an envelope really...I don't have a micrometer to figure out dimensions for McMaster carr, might still go that route. Someone that has time to pull one and a micrometer might tell me the dimensions to determine which one from this page to order

http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-disc-springs/=yojnrq

They call them "wave disc springs"

Chuck's idea about worn plastic knob ramps I verified out by swapping the one spring and both sides work fine if they are the side with the spring.

I looked in the parts book, page 14-6, no love.

Donors or measurers hoped for...
Any measuring stick that is graduated in 32nds will tell you what you need to know. 1/32" is about .030. 64ths are half that. If you got good eyes, either natural or lens enhanced, you can interpolate the 1/16" graduations of a tape measure to 64ths.
Order a variety of them and use the best match when they arrive.

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