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[GMCnet] Spare Wheel Mount [message #285882] Wed, 26 August 2015 08:44 Go to next message
Peter Garry is currently offline  Peter Garry   United States
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Ah Ha. The PO had a spare Steel) with 2 extra holes drilled and 2 Hex screws to hold the wheel on. There are 2 short studs that appear to have been cut to about 1/2” long. Measuring these shortened studs they are are about 5.5 inches on centre, the Alcoa holes are 6.5 inches.
So it as I thought, I will be fabricating a new plate with studs placed correctly.
It was a long shot, just thought I would ask.
thanks

Peter Garry
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Calgary, Alberta
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Re: [GMCnet] Spare Wheel Mount [message #285884 is a reply to message #285882] Wed, 26 August 2015 09:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
C Boyd is currently offline  C Boyd   United States
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Sir, our 76 23' only has the holes with the hex nuts. Real pain to install by myself.



Peter Garry wrote on Wed, 26 August 2015 09:44
Ah Ha. The PO had a spare Steel) with 2 extra holes drilled and 2 Hex screws to hold the wheel on. There are 2 short studs that appear to have been cut to about 1/2" long. Measuring these shortened studs they are are about 5.5 inches on centre, the Alcoa holes are 6.5 inches.
So it as I thought, I will be fabricating a new plate with studs placed correctly.
It was a long shot, just thought I would ask.
thanks

Peter Garry
73 - 23ft
Calgary, Alberta
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Re: [GMCnet] Spare Wheel Mount [message #285930 is a reply to message #285884] Wed, 26 August 2015 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tphipps is currently offline  tphipps   United States
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There are enough "parts" coaches around in our GMC universe. Should be able to get an OEM one from someone. Would be heavy to ship. OEM had 3 studs for holding the spare wheel. And, they are awkward to remove and replace. Perhaps you could get the original holes reopened and put a set of studs in your current tire rack.
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Re: [GMCnet] Spare Wheel Mount [message #285941 is a reply to message #285884] Wed, 26 August 2015 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Chuck,

Suggest you buy some grade 8 longer fully threaded bolts, stick them through holes in the spare tire mount then put a jam nut loaded
with red Locktite on them and tighten the S#!T out of the nuts.

You now have three studs to hang the spare on.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic


-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Boyd

Sir, our 76 23' only has the holes with the hex nuts. Real pain to install by myself.


C. Boyd


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Re: [GMCnet] Spare Wheel Mount [message #285943 is a reply to message #285930] Wed, 26 August 2015 18:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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With all the folks who have had Jim Bounds at the coop remove the spare mount for the sake of "beauty" I'd bet he has quite a few complete mounts available for sale!

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> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 17:15:23 -0600
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> From: tph1pp5@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Spare Wheel Mount
>
> There are enough "parts" coaches around in our GMC universe. Should be able to get an OEM one from someone. Would be heavy to ship. OEM had 3 studs
> for holding the spare wheel. And, they are awkward to remove and replace. Perhaps you could get the original holes reopened and put a set of studs
> in your current tire rack.
> Tom, MS II
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Re: [GMCnet] Spare Wheel Mount [message #285952 is a reply to message #285943] Wed, 26 August 2015 20:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A Hamilto is currently offline  A Hamilto   United States
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k2gkk wrote on Wed, 26 August 2015 18:58
With all the folks who have had Jim Bounds at the coop remove the spare mount for the sake of "beauty" I'd bet he has quite a few complete mounts available for sale!

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That's good to know. I could use a couple, just not willing to pay the shipping or trouble busy Jim to ship them.
Re: [GMCnet] Spare Wheel Mount [message #285967 is a reply to message #285941] Thu, 27 August 2015 08:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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USAussie wrote on Wed, 26 August 2015 19:47
Chuck,

Suggest you buy some grade 8 longer fully threaded bolts, stick them through holes in the spare tire mount then put a jam nut loaded
with red Locktite on them and tighten the S#!T out of the nuts.

You now have three studs to hang the spare on.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Boyd

Sir, our 76 23' only has the holes with the hex nuts. Real pain to install by myself.

C. Boyd


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Re: [GMCnet] Spare Wheel Mount [message #285969 is a reply to message #285967] Thu, 27 August 2015 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Matt,

You didn't make any comment and I couldn't figger out why you sent the email. Then I read what I had written in response to Chucks
message and the penny dropped!

I figger'd out what Chuck was saying was that instead of three studs welded to the spare tire plate he had three nuts welded to the
spare tire plate. Well at least that's what I think now.

Therefore my suggestion was useless!

At any rate a few more minutes of this problem rumbling around in the grey matter I figger'd out it would still work and it would
even be a cheaper fix!

Assuming that the nuts on the spare plate are 9/16 x 18 (same as the Alcoa lug nuts) and there is a through hole Chuck just has to
thread the bolts through the back of the plate and into the nuts. It doesn't matter if the nuts are on the "front" side or "back"
side of the spare plate it will work; he just has to get fully threaded bolts that are long enough.

Regards,
Rob M.

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From: Matt Colie

USAussie wrote on Wed, 26 August 2015 19:47
> Chuck,
>
> Suggest you buy some grade 8 longer fully threaded bolts, stick them through holes in the spare tire mount then put a jam nut
> loaded with red Locktite on them and tighten the S#!T out of the nuts.
>
> You now have three studs to hang the spare on.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Boyd
>
> Sir, our 76 23' only has the holes with the hex nuts. Real pain to install by myself.
>
> C. Boyd

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Re: [GMCnet] Spare Wheel Mount [message #285971 is a reply to message #285969] Thu, 27 August 2015 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
C Boyd is currently offline  C Boyd   United States
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Rob, I am sure I could find some adapter studs (one size on one end, different on other end) to screw in and use lug nuts for my wheels. But then the 3 lug nuts would poke indentions into my vinyl spare tire cover and not be aesthetically appropriate. When I had the 16.5 wheels I had an Alcoa look alike hubcap on it to match the ones on the coach ( in case I lost one) and the cover showed the 8 covers on the hubcap which was ok, however only 3 would not. I have stud centered wheels with the long lug nuts. So I chose to keep the flush mount bolts for less wind turblances in the rear for better mpg.


USAussie wrote on Thu, 27 August 2015 09:47
Matt,

You didn't make any comment and I couldn't figger out why you sent the email. Then I read what I had written in response to Chucks
message and the penny dropped!

I figger'd out what Chuck was saying was that instead of three studs welded to the spare tire plate he had three nuts welded to the
spare tire plate. Well at least that's what I think now.

Therefore my suggestion was useless!

At any rate a few more minutes of this problem rumbling around in the grey matter I figger'd out it would still work and it would
even be a cheaper fix!

Assuming that the nuts on the spare plate are 9/16 x 18 (same as the Alcoa lug nuts) and there is a through hole Chuck just has to
thread the bolts through the back of the plate and into the nuts. It doesn't matter if the nuts are on the "front" side or "back"
side of the spare plate it will work; he just has to get fully threaded bolts that are long enough.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Colie

USAussie wrote on Wed, 26 August 2015 19:47
> Chuck,
>
> Suggest you buy some grade 8 longer fully threaded bolts, stick them through holes in the spare tire mount then put a jam nut
> loaded with red Locktite on them and tighten the S#!T out of the nuts.
>
> You now have three studs to hang the spare on.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Boyd
>
> Sir, our 76 23' only has the holes with the hex nuts. Real pain to install by myself.
>
> C. Boyd

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Re: [GMCnet] Spare Wheel Mount [message #285980 is a reply to message #285971] Thu, 27 August 2015 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Charles wouldn't the easy way be to thread studs in loosely hang the rim in place then replace the studs with bolts one at a time?

Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
Re: [GMCnet] Spare Wheel Mount [message #285985 is a reply to message #285980] Thu, 27 August 2015 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
C Boyd is currently offline  C Boyd   United States
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Sir, the only " easy" way picking up a mounted tire and wheel chest high is to get Cathy to do it while I start the bolts.. Twisted Evil I do like the idear tho, I'll carry one for her..


roy1 wrote on Thu, 27 August 2015 12:18
Charles wouldn't the easy way be to thread studs in loosely hang the rim in place then replace the studs with bolts one at a time?



C. Boyd
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Re: [GMCnet] Spare Wheel Mount [message #285990 is a reply to message #285969] Thu, 27 August 2015 14:48 Go to previous message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Rob et al,

It seems my note got lost...
All I wanted to add was that Gr.8 was a bad idea here.
I'll fill in the list of reasons some other time.

Matt

USAussie wrote on Thu, 27 August 2015 09:47
Matt,

You didn't make any comment and I couldn't figger out why you sent the email. Then I read what I had written in response to Chucks
message and the penny dropped!
<snip>
Regards,
Rob M.



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