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[GMCnet] Fuel supply for Onan [message #285317] Tue, 18 August 2015 16:42 Go to next message
Sean is currently offline  Sean   United States
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I was trying to awake my Onan from its slumber this past weekend using the
guide from Gene Fisher's site.

When I got to the step for testing the fuel pump, the pump ran, but I got
no fuel.

I discovered that the fuel line from the tank to the generator is
completely missing.

I was thinking I was going to have to drain my tanks and drop them to fix
this, but a few minutes ago I crawled under there and found this plugged,
cut-off hose coming out of the rear tank on the driver's side:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/questions/p58990-onan-fuel-supply.html

(photo is looking to the rear)

I was under the impression that the generator fuel supply came off the top
of the tank, but that hose makes me think I might be wrong.

Does the Onan get its fuel from the side of the tank on a 1973 26' Painted
Desert?

If not, then does anyone have any theories as to the purpose of that
cut-off hose in my picture?

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Sean
1973 26' Painted Desert
Luna County, NM
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Re: [GMCnet] Fuel supply for Onan [message #285319 is a reply to message #285317] Tue, 18 August 2015 17:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Sean

That mystery outlet appears on many 1973 fuel tanks.

Here is a photo (not mine) of the fuel tank hose routing -- the Onan is to the bottom right of the rear tank.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc/p8963.html

Dennis

Sean wrote on Tue, 18 August 2015 16:42
I was trying to awake my Onan from its slumber this past weekend using the
guide from Gene Fisher's site.

When I got to the step for testing the fuel pump, the pump ran, but I got
no fuel.

I discovered that the fuel line from the tank to the generator is
completely missing.

I was thinking I was going to have to drain my tanks and drop them to fix
this, but a few minutes ago I crawled under there and found this plugged,
cut-off hose coming out of the rear tank on the driver's side:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/questions/p58990-onan-fuel-supply.html

(photo is looking to the rear)

I was under the impression that the generator fuel supply came off the top
of the tank, but that hose makes me think I might be wrong.

Does the Onan get its fuel from the side of the tank on a 1973 26' Painted
Desert?

If not, then does anyone have any theories as to the purpose of that
cut-off hose in my picture?

--
Sean
1973 26' Painted Desert
Luna County, NM
Gallery: http://goo.gl/Gfcpd
GMCMH Search Engine: http://goo.gl/xd8PK
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Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro

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Re: [GMCnet] Fuel supply for Onan [message #285320 is a reply to message #285319] Tue, 18 August 2015 17:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sean is currently offline  Sean   United States
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Dennis S wrote on Tue, 18 August 2015 16:31
Sean

That mystery outlet appears on many 1973 fuel tanks.

Here is a photo (not mine) of the fuel tank hose routing -- the Onan is to the bottom right of the rear tank.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc/p8963.html

Dennis


Dangit, I knew that was too good to be true.

Thanks for the photo though, that's very helpful!

--
Sean


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Sean
1973 260 Painted Desert
Luna County, NM
Re: [GMCnet] Fuel supply for Onan [message #285321 is a reply to message #285320] Tue, 18 August 2015 17:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Sean

I will add that some say Coachmen fed the Onan from a tee in the main fuel line.
The purpose of the dedicated fuel port was to prevent the Onan from running the tanks dry and stranding the coach.

Dennis

Sean wrote on Tue, 18 August 2015 17:41
Dennis S wrote on Tue, 18 August 2015 16:31
Sean

That mystery outlet appears on many 1973 fuel tanks.

Here is a photo (not mine) of the fuel tank hose routing -- the Onan is to the bottom right of the rear tank.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/misc/p8963.html

Dennis


Dangit, I knew that was too good to be true.

Thanks for the photo though, that's very helpful!

--
Sean



Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
Re: [GMCnet] Fuel supply for Onan [message #285328 is a reply to message #285321] Tue, 18 August 2015 18:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sean is currently offline  Sean   United States
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Dennis S wrote on Tue, 18 August 2015 16:47
Sean

I will add that some say Coachmen fed the Onan from a tee in the main fuel line.
The purpose of the dedicated fuel port was to prevent the Onan from running the tanks dry and stranding the coach.

Dennis


Yeah, I considered putting in a tee, but stranding the coach would be bad Smile


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Sean
1973 260 Painted Desert
Luna County, NM
Re: [GMCnet] Fuel supply for Onan [message #285334 is a reply to message #285321] Tue, 18 August 2015 19:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> On Aug 18, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Dennis Sexton wrote:
>
> Sean
>
> I will add that some say Coachmen fed the Onan from a tee in the main fuel line.

It's not just that some say that. It is that way on all Coachman outfitted Royales and Birchavens.

When they got the Transmodes from GMC there was no Onan installed. They didn't want to incur the labor of dropping the fuel tank to connect the fill hose to the top of the rear tank so the spliced the Onan line to the fuel line going from the rear tank to the GMC engine.

> The purpose of the dedicated fuel port was to prevent the Onan from running the tanks dry and stranding the coach.
>

The fitting is still on the top of the tank so if Royale or Birchaven owners want to convert to the GM factory hookup they can do so by lowering the tank.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO

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Re: [GMCnet] Fuel supply for Onan [message #285341 is a reply to message #285334] Tue, 18 August 2015 20:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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emerystora wrote on Tue, 18 August 2015 17:12


> On Aug 18, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Dennis Sexton wrote:

It's not just that some say that. It is that way on all Coachman outfitted Royales and Birchavens.

When they got the Transmodes from GMC there was no Onan installed. They didn't want to incur the labor of dropping the fuel tank to connect the fill hose to the top of the rear tank so the spliced the Onan line to the fuel line going from the rear tank to the GMC engine.

The fitting is still on the top of the tank so if Royale or Birchaven owners want to convert to the GM factory hookup they can do so by lowering the tank.



I have an '74 Eleganza. I converted my Onan to Propane only and capped off the old hose. This was several years ago but I idly thought, "I could get my monkey hand up there and put on a new hose." Matt Colie referenced that he had heard this had been done. If you have big arms and hands, perhaps a younger kid or spouse person could get in there.


'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
Re: [GMCnet] Fuel supply for Onan [message #285352 is a reply to message #285317] Wed, 19 August 2015 07:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My Norris upfit is done the same way - tee in the main line. I don't dry camp to amount to anythiing so I've not bothered to relocate it.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: [GMCnet] Fuel supply for Onan [message #285372 is a reply to message #285317] Wed, 19 August 2015 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sean is currently offline  Sean   United States
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I've located the correct fitting on my rear tank, and I found that there is a bit of hose attached to it and plugged just like the mystery fitting.

It looks like there is sufficient hose there for me to connect a fuel line without dropping the tank, so with any luck I'll have my Onan up and running soon Smile


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Sean
1973 260 Painted Desert
Luna County, NM

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Re: [GMCnet] Fuel supply for Onan [message #285373 is a reply to message #285372] Wed, 19 August 2015 09:57 Go to previous message
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Id check the condition of that line before hooking it back up. It may be old and mushy and gummed up. It was removed for some reason. Running a new Ethanol friendly line may save some mess down the road. Last thing you want to do is suck a bunch of gum into the Onan fuel pump....

You can also bottle feed the onan with an aux gas can just to see if it will pump and work.

Good luck. Having a running onan again is a victory.


77 Royale, Rear Dry Bath. 403, 3.55 Final Drive, Lenzi goodies, Patterson carb and dizzy. Mid Michigan
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