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Ok to start engine when attached to shore power? [message #285116] Sun, 16 August 2015 12:42 Go to next message
George B. is currently offline  George B.   United States
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I was wondering if I damage anything electrical if I start the coach engine while hooked up to shore power?

George Butts Las Vegas Nevada 73 "Custom 26' Q" & 76 23' Birchaven 71 Honda 600 Coupe & 01 Tracker Toads
Re: [GMCnet] Ok to start engine when attached to shore power? [message #285120 is a reply to message #285116] Sun, 16 August 2015 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steve Jess is currently offline  Steve Jess   United States
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The only thing that could possibly be damaged is your buzz box, or whatever you use to charge your batteries. But that's a remote possibility. As long as that and your alternator are both functioning properly, you should have no problem.
Putting the transmission in Drive is, of course, not recommended... :-)
Steve Jess - Helena, MT
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> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 11:42:46 -0600
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> I was wondering if I damage anything electrical if I start the coach engine while hooked up to shore power?
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Re: [GMCnet] Ok to start engine when attached to shore power? [message #285124 is a reply to message #285116] Sun, 16 August 2015 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nelson is currently offline  Nelson   United States
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you might want to limit your journey to less than 50 feet other wise no harm ;-)

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> On Aug 16, 2015, at 1:42 PM, GEORGE BUTTS wrote:
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> I was wondering if I damage anything electrical if I start the coach engine while hooked up to shore power?
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Re: [GMCnet] Ok to start engine when attached to shore power? [message #285130 is a reply to message #285124] Sun, 16 August 2015 16:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nelson wrote on Sun, 16 August 2015 15:18
you might want to limit your journey to less than 50 feet other wise no harm Wink



Funniest thing I've heard today! Thanks for the laugh.


Matt Sladek 1976 Eleganza II Coralville, IA
Re: [GMCnet] Ok to start engine when attached to shore power? [message #285132 is a reply to message #285124] Sun, 16 August 2015 16:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
George Beckman is currently offline  George Beckman   United States
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Nelson wrote on Sun, 16 August 2015 13:18
you might want to limit your journey to less than 50 feet other wise no harm Wink



Still laughing.


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Re: [GMCnet] Ok to start engine when attached to shore power? [message #285151 is a reply to message #285124] Sun, 16 August 2015 18:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
George B. is currently offline  George B.   United States
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Actually driving away with the shore power connected happened the first time the PO took us for a test drive in the coach I ended up buying. He was making all kinds of claims that it was ready to drive cross country etc. He was going to drive first to get it out of the driveway and went a few feet and it died! Would not turn over when he tried to start it again so he hooked up the shore power cord again and after awhile got it started. Put it in drive and started out the driveway again and took the power cord down the street several yards. Luckily he had it plugged into an extension cord and did not pull lose before he noticed it. Eventually went for a nice ride.

Lesson here, don't tell how good the coach runs to a prospective buyer until they actually have a successful ride in it at least beyond the driveway (hopefully without the power cord).


George Butts Las Vegas Nevada 73 "Custom 26' Q" & 76 23' Birchaven 71 Honda 600 Coupe & 01 Tracker Toads
Re: [GMCnet] Ok to start engine when attached to shore power? [message #285172 is a reply to message #285151] Sun, 16 August 2015 22:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Depending on which type of converter you have in your coach, StatPower/Xantrex, buzz box or Progressive Dynamic’s, you could cause the overload fuses to blow. The StatPower unit that I have had for years (1999) and it works well until I do something like starting the coach without unplugging the coach, you can blow one of several internal fuses and lose the ability to work as a converter/charger. I have done it twice, the first time I was unaware of the output fuses that on most of that brand are mounted internally and you have to take the top cover off to replace. The second time about 3 years ago there are several fuses that are mounted at board level and I ended up taking it to a factory service place in Tucson. I have not used a PD unit so I do not know if the same condition exist.

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> On Aug 16, 2015, at 7:48 PM, GEORGE BUTTS wrote:
>
> Actually driving away with the shore power connected happened the first time the PO took us for a test drive in the coach I ended up buying. He was
> making all kinds of claims that it was ready to drive cross country etc. He was going to drive first to get it out of the driveway and went a few
> feet and it died! Would not turn over when he tried to start it again so he hooked up the shore power cord again and after awhile got it started.
> Put it in drive and started out the driveway again and took the power cord down the street several yards. Luckily he had it plugged into an extension
> cord and did not pull lose before he noticed it. Eventually went for a nice ride.
>
> Lesson here, don't tell how good the coach runs to a prospective buyer until they actually have a successful ride in it at least beyond the driveway
> (hopefully without the power cord).
> --
> George Butts
> Las Vegas Nevada
> 73 "Custom 26' Q" & 76 23' Birchaven
> 71 Honda 600 Coupe & 01 Tracker Toads
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Ok to start engine when attached to shore power? [message #285175 is a reply to message #285172] Sun, 16 August 2015 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've been using Progressive Dynamics converters for about 15 years now. I
lost one when the power company zapped the RV park several of us were in
near Orlando. It cost them several converters, as well as several
microwave ovens. That's the ONLY problem I've had with those converters
and I've started the engine while plugged into shore power, and with the
generator running, many times with no ill effects. I'm surprised that
anyone has had any problems.

Ken H.


On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:27 PM, John Wright
wrote:

> Depending on which type of converter you have in your coach,
> StatPower/Xantrex, buzz box or Progressive Dynamic’s, you could cause the
> overload fuses to blow. The StatPower unit that I have had for years
> (1999) and it works well until I do something like starting the coach
> without unplugging the coach, you can blow one of several internal fuses
> and lose the ability to work as a converter/charger. I have done it twice,
> the first time I was unaware of the output fuses that on most of that brand
> are mounted internally and you have to take the top cover off to replace.
> The second time about 3 years ago there are several fuses that are mounted
> at board level and I ended up taking it to a factory service place in
> Tucson. I have not used a PD unit so I do not know if the same condition
> exist.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Ok to start engine when attached to shore power? [message #285187 is a reply to message #285175] Mon, 17 August 2015 08:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bdub is currently offline  bdub   United States
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Me too, Ken. I've never heard of anyone having this trouble. I regularly
start my GMC while it's plugged in.

bdub ... using the same IOTA DLS-45s converter/charger since 1999.


On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Ken Henderson wrote:

> I've been using Progressive Dynamics converters for about 15 years now. I
> lost one when the power company zapped the RV park several of us were in
> near Orlando. It cost them several converters, as well as several
> microwave ovens. That's the ONLY problem I've had with those converters
> and I've started the engine while plugged into shore power, and with the
> generator running, many times with no ill effects. I'm surprised that
> anyone has had any problems.
>
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Re: Ok to start engine when attached to shore power? [message #285216 is a reply to message #285116] Mon, 17 August 2015 11:16 Go to previous message
Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   United States
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Me Three on starting with the PD9245. Never had a problem.

Now understand, that most coaches, unless the wiring is changed, have the converter on the house bank. The engine bank is not connected unless using the boost.



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