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| [GMCnet] Nuts for the cupboard bolts metal or aluminum? [message #284704] |
Wed, 12 August 2015 15:32  |
Olly Schmidt
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Anyone know if the nuts that are in the ceiling that hold bolts are
metal? If yes, I could use a small magnet to find them (I did mark the
original holes, but still...)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Nuts for the cupboard bolts metal or aluminum? [message #284739 is a reply to message #284704] |
Wed, 12 August 2015 23:34  |
Ken Henderson
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Peer,
I don't know the answer to your question, but it should be easy to find
empirically -- just stick the magnet up there and see if it stays.
If it doesn't, I'd suggest making some short studs from all-thread rod,
with screwdriver slots added, to put in the holes, making them magnetic.
Mark your holes and drill them.
Then, cut some longer studs from that same stick of all-thread and put
those in the holes before you attempt to mount the cabinets -- it will be a
LOT easier to put the cabinets on those temporary studs, and add nuts, than
it will be to insert bolts through the cabinet holes into the captive nuts.
JWID,
Ken H.
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC <
posde@theinternet.de> wrote:
> Anyone know if the nuts that are in the ceiling that hold bolts are
> metal? If yes, I could use a small magnet to find them (I did mark the
> original holes, but still...)
> --
> Best regards
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> Peer Oliver Schmidt
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> '76a Eleganza II, VA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Nuts for the cupboard bolts metal or aluminum? [message #284747 is a reply to message #284739] |
Thu, 13 August 2015 06:08 |
Olly Schmidt
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Ken,
thanks.
I didn't yet have magnets, that's why I asked. And I got an offline
answer saying they were out of aluminum. The small rod idea was a good
one! Unfortunately too late. I'll go on the hunt using the old method of
cut and look :)
Thanks for your tips!
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| Re: [GMCnet] Nuts for the cupboard bolts metal or aluminum? [message #284763 is a reply to message #284704] |
Thu, 13 August 2015 08:26 |
Olly Schmidt
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> I guess that a QWERTZ keyboard is something that is common in Europe! I've never seen anything other than the QWERTY keyboards.
In Europe each country has basically its own layout. While the QWERTZ
and QWERTY are mostly similar, you won't be able to write a sentence in
under 10 minutes when typing on a French keyboard layout ;)
We Europeans have these Umlauts and stuff. Need special keys for them :)
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| Re: [GMCnet] Nuts for the cupboard bolts metal or aluminum? [message #284772 is a reply to message #284770] |
Thu, 13 August 2015 10:02 |
Olly Schmidt
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Am 13.08.2015 um 10:25 schrieb D C _Mac_ Macdonald:
> The umlauts aren't really a big problem because adding the "e" at the end of those vowels that have the umlaut seem to be widely understood (ae, oe, ue) by folks who actually use the umlaut characters. Some of us even learned to pronounce them reasonably correctly during a military tour in Germany!
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It is not about problem, it is about how they are suppose to be written
natively. That's why everyone has their own layout.
German Umlauts are fairly easy, with adding the e. But what about the
Scandinavians with their circles over the a and stuff... In the old days
we hat ASCII 7-bit, the Europeans wanted ASCII 8-bit to get their
characters in there as well. Now we are at UTF-32 iirc to fulfill
worldwide needs.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Nuts for the cupboard bolts metal or aluminum? [message #284790 is a reply to message #284747] |
Thu, 13 August 2015 12:13 |
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As a suggestion, before you install the headliner, put a threaded transfer
punch
(McMaster-Carr) in the insert. Then, after you put the headliner panel up,
just
thump it with your hand. You'll be able to feel where the punch is located.
Mark it so you don't lose track of it. Then use a gasket hole punch to
take out
a circle around the transfer punch. Remove the punch and install cabinets.
A good plan would be to install short lengths of all-thread in the inserts
before
putting the cabinets up. Just slide them onto the studs in the side wall,
then
lift them over the ceiling studs and put a shoulder underneath while you
get a nut on one of the studs. At that point, you can just add nuts or
exchange
the studs for bolt, one at a time. You can tell all my plans are based on
working alone, as that's the way I work.
Gary Kosier
77PB w/ 500 Cad
Newark, Oh
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From: "Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC"
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 7:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Nuts for the cupboard bolts metal or aluminum?
> Ken,
>
> thanks.
>
> I didn't yet have magnets, that's why I asked. And I got an offline
> answer saying they were out of aluminum. The small rod idea was a good
> one! Unfortunately too late. I'll go on the hunt using the old method of
> cut and look :)
>
> Thanks for your tips!
>
> --
> Best regards
>
> Peer Oliver Schmidt
> PGP Key ID: 0x83E1C2EA
>
> '76a Eleganza II, VA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Nuts for the cupboard bolts metal or aluminum? [message #284796 is a reply to message #284778] |
Thu, 13 August 2015 13:43 |
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Hi, Rob.
I truly believe that I can come very close. Someday, I may get to another GMCMI rally/convention when you are also there and I can demonstrate! I do have more problem correctly pronouncing the "o mit umlaut" sound, though. My wife Judy had three years of French in high school and it was her major (2 years until she got her MRS degree) and she got "A" in the French pronunciation classes. French has a vowel which is apparently VERY close to the sound of the German "o" with umlaut and I have to really concentrate to get close to that one!
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> From: robmueller@iinet.net.au
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 01:27:27 +1000
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Nuts for the cupboard bolts metal or aluminum?
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> Mac,
>
> My family name is actually Muller with an umlaut over the "u." My Dad told me that when he and his Father arrived at Ellis Island in
> 1926 they were told that the umlaut didn't exist in English and an "e" would be added after the "u."
>
> In my 68 years I have NEVER heard anyone pronounce the "ue" the same way Germans pronounce the "u" with an umlaut over it.
>
> I usually get Mule - er or Mull - er and neither one of those is the correct pronunciation. The problem is the sound one makes for a
> "u" with an umlaut over it does not exist in the English language. Well at least I can't think of any word that is pronounced with
> that sound.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D C _Mac_ Macdonald
>
> The umlauts aren't really a big problem because adding the "e" at the end of those vowels that have the umlaut seem to be widely
> understood (ae, oe, ue) by folks who actually use the umlaut characters. Some of us even learned to pronounce them reasonably
> correctly during a military tour in Germany!
>
> ~~ ~ D C "Mac" Macdonald ~ ~~
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| Re: [GMCnet] Nuts for the cupboard bolts metal or aluminum? [message #284804 is a reply to message #284796] |
Thu, 13 August 2015 16:07 |
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The screws holding up our cabinets were just that, SCREWS, not bolts, and the sheet-metal type threads engaged the aluminum frames directly. I had to use the cabinet to find the screw holes. Wife held up one end of cabinet and I held the other and had the first screw already through the cabinet frame and was able to get it started in the hole because I could see the hole. This was the front cabinets on the 1973, YMMV. I haven't taken a rear one down yet.
Terry Kelpien
ASE Master Technician
73 Glacier 260
Smithfield, Va.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Nuts for the cupboard bolts metal or aluminum? [message #284825 is a reply to message #284807] |
Thu, 13 August 2015 20:51 |
tphipps
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One trick for holding up the cabinets is from Harbor Freight. They have a brace that is sold to be used in truck beds to brace the load. Turned vertically, it will hold and support the cabinet as you work with them.
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
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