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| [GMCnet] Fwd: new web page = A REALLY BAD IDEA [message #284635] |
Wed, 12 August 2015 03:52  |
Mr ERFisher
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the GMC community
we have spent over 20 years and maybe 40 years
collecting links and data searches for GMC data
this email, is an example of how this how this hurts:
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Jim Bounds did a great write-up on a primer switch for the Onan at the
remote start button location.
http://gmcmotorhome.info/onan.htm
http://www.gmccoop.com/onan_prime_circuit.htm
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the first link works, the second does not !!!!!
-this is not "their" data it is "ours"
- this is how GMCMI stole 15 years of GMC data
- GMCMI only recently tried to give it back
- GMCMI is a fine organization, but the change was devastating
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this is why I spend 3 hours a night fixing broken links
- this is why BDUB and the PHOTO SITE is our only hope
- send him $$$$ and hope he stays with us
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/
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all of the old links to J. Bounds will no longer work
- THE DATA WILL STILL BE THERE
- but finding it will be a -PITA-
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all of the stored links and references to JB are lost.......
-- email
-- web sites
-- FORUM
-- face book
-- blogs
-- all lost
snort,hiss,grumble
lost-in-space
Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
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http://gmcmotorhome.info/
Alternator Protection Cable
http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
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Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL and
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http://gmcmotorhome.info/
Alternator Protection Cable
http://gmcmotorhome.info/APC.html
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: new web page = A REALLY BAD IDEA [message #284637 is a reply to message #284635] |
Wed, 12 August 2015 05:47  |
Olly Schmidt
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Hello gene,
> the GMC community
> we have spent over 20 years and maybe 40 years
> collecting links and data searches for GMC data
> this email, is an example of how this how this hurts:
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> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Jim Bounds did a great write-up on a primer switch for the Onan at the
> remote start button location.
>
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/onan.htm
>
> http://www.gmccoop.com/onan_prime_circuit.htm
>
> -- ------------------------------------------------
> the first link works, the second does not !!!!!
> -this is not "their" data it is "ours"
> - this is how GMCMI stole 15 years of GMC data
> - GMCMI only recently tried to give it back
> - GMCMI is a fine organization, but the change was devastating
everybody that setups a new web system is able to configure there server
to host the old content in parallel. Tell the web guy of Jim B to keep
the old information up in parallel. It should be easy peasy and won't
cost anything. But they have to be made aware of this.
I do here you with regards to broken links, and the work associated with
it. Most of the time, when I hit a broken link for a site (not only GMC
MH related), I just search on the destination site for the old
information, or hit http://archive.org and hope the Wayback Machine had
the site crawled.
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Best regards
Peer Oliver Schmidt
the internet company
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: new web page = A REALLY BAD IDEA [message #284639 is a reply to message #284635] |
Wed, 12 August 2015 06:02 |
kerry pinkerton
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Mr ERFisher wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 03:52...
-this is not "their" data it is "ours"
- this is how GMCMI stole 15 years of GMC data
- GMCMI only recently tried to give it back
- GMCMI is a fine organization, but the change was devastating...
Pretty strong words Eugene. Care to elaborate?
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: new web page = A REALLY BAD IDEA [message #284650 is a reply to message #284649] |
Wed, 12 August 2015 08:11 |
gbarrow2
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I am sure whoever is taking care of the Coop's website will find an easy
way to keep the old links going.
Don't bet on it!
Many of us non-tech savvy GMC'ers need SIMPLE access.
Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: new web page = A REALLY BAD IDEA [message #284654 is a reply to message #284650] |
Wed, 12 August 2015 08:24 |
jknezek
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gbarrow wrote on Wed, 12 August 2015 09:11
Don't bet on it!
Many of us non-tech savvy GMC'ers need SIMPLE access.
Being Tech illiterate is going to be almost as bad as being actually illiterate as the world moves on. People that rode horses were pushed out by those who drive cars. Spreadsheets replaced calculators. Word processors replaced typewriters. Smart phones basically replaced every consumer finished good at RadioShack. We all have to work to keep up, or we will have a small presence in the modern world. For many this is fine, but you simply aren't going to hold back the changes because you don't want them to happen.
Jim's new website is simple. Certainly more readable. It's just not what you are used to. New doesn't mean hard, but it can mean adjustment.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: new web page = A REALLY BAD IDEA [message #284655 is a reply to message #284635] |
Wed, 12 August 2015 08:29 |
rcjordan
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>I am sure whoever is taking care of the Coop's website
The co-op has a very checkered history regarding content maintenance over the last couple of years. I'm not overly optimistic that Jim will demand that the old links will be redirected or reestablished.
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
76 Eleganza
Elizabeth City, NC
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: new web page = A REALLY BAD IDEA [message #284656 is a reply to message #284635] |
Wed, 12 August 2015 08:50 |
kerry pinkerton
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And let's be fair to Jim. This is not "OUR" content. It is Jim's intellectual capital....not ours. If he chooses to share it with us or not is his choice.
Posts here or on the photo site fall into a different category because it is a public forum. Generally speaking, in the intellectual property world, IP rights belong to the author unless they have waived them by assigning them to their employer or similar.
I'm not really sure who owns the content here. On my metal shaping site, we clearly spell out that the ownership of the content belongs to the author. They can edit and delete as they wish. Not all sites are like that. Some specifically say that if you post something, it becomes theirs.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: new web page = A REALLY BAD IDEA [message #284660 is a reply to message #284656] |
Wed, 12 August 2015 09:01 |
James Hupy
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I feel that any technical advice I give out freely is just that. FREE.
Makes no difference if I do it on this gmcnet, or present it at a rally
somewhere. Or for that matter, in a face to face conversation or phone
call. Do with it what you will. Just give credit for the source and don't
claim it as yours. If someone keeps one of these coaches on the road with
info gleaned from us, we all benefit from it. Intellectual properties?
That's kinda like "military intelligence" or "tactical options". Oxymoron
like in fact.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Aug 12, 2015 6:50 AM, "Kerry Pinkerton" wrote:
> And let's be fair to Jim. This is not "OUR" content. It is Jim's
> intellectual capital....not ours. If he chooses to share it with us or not
> is his
> choice.
>
> Posts here or on the photo site fall into a different category because it
> is a public forum. Generally speaking, in the intellectual property world,
> IP rights belong to the author unless they have waived them by assigning
> them to their employer or similar.
>
> I'm not really sure who owns the content here. On my metal shaping site,
> we clearly spell out that the ownership of the content belongs to the
> author. They can edit and delete as they wish. Not all sites are like
> that. Some specifically say that if you post something, it becomes theirs.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
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> North Alabama
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> 77 Eleganza II, 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny, lots of aluminum
> goodies.
>
> Also a 76 Eleganza to be re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: new web page = A REALLY BAD IDEA [message #284673 is a reply to message #284656] |
Wed, 12 August 2015 10:08 |
Tim Hart
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I think that it is absolutely wonderful that he does this.
Does Jim welcome visitors?
Sent from my iPad
> On Aug 12, 2015, at 9:50 AM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
>
> And let's be fair to Jim. This is not "OUR" content. It is Jim's intellectual capital....not ours. If he chooses to share it with us or not is his
> choice.
>
> Posts here or on the photo site fall into a different category because it is a public forum. Generally speaking, in the intellectual property world,
> IP rights belong to the author unless they have waived them by assigning them to their employer or similar.
>
> I'm not really sure who owns the content here. On my metal shaping site, we clearly spell out that the ownership of the content belongs to the
> author. They can edit and delete as they wish. Not all sites are like that. Some specifically say that if you post something, it becomes theirs.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
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> North Alabama
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> 77 Eleganza II, 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny, lots of aluminum goodies.
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> Also a 76 Eleganza to be re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: new web page = A REALLY BAD IDEA [message #284678 is a reply to message #284635] |
Wed, 12 August 2015 11:01 |
rcjordan
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>absolutely wonderful that he does this.
Producing content is absolutely the hardest part. The grind is horrific. The format is the least of it. Though I like other content management systems, I recommended wordpress because I think it will be around for a long time and maybe Jim won't have to face a migration issue for a while.
>Does Jim welcome visitors?
Yes.
>spoke with Jim & Bryan this AM
Thanks, JP.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: new web page = A REALLY BAD IDEA [message #284692 is a reply to message #284689] |
Wed, 12 August 2015 13:19 |
James Hupy
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I don' need no stinkin' computers! Don't know where I would be without
them. Order my parts from my phone, keep in touch with family and friends,
research specs on stuff, take pictures of stuff and send them to suppliers
whom I have on the phone, list goes on and on. I am one of the few members
of my family to still have a hard wired phone. Only keep it for the fiber
optic buried Internet access. Brave New World out there, either jump on
board, or stand bemused while it passes you by like an endless parade.
Don't need the latest and greatest stuff, just proven tech that works
reliably.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Oregon
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Aug 12, 2015 11:07 AM, "Jim Galbavy" wrote:
> I think that it is interesting that we seem to get all wrapped
> around the latest technologies. I go to places like Alaska or
> camping to get away from all that. The last thing I need is a coach
> next to me with his outside 60 inch TV. I don't need all of the latest
> and greatest.
>
> JimB's internet suppliers "updated" without notice and dumped not only
> Jim but also FedEx. I wonder how they felt about it? ....wonder how many
> others? I love my GMC 'cause it ain't no dam computer. (spelled it that way
> so I wouldn't use no bad words)
>
> ;)
>
> jim galbavy
> '73 x-CL ANNIE
> Lake Mary, FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Fwd: new web page = A REALLY BAD IDEA [message #284694 is a reply to message #284678] |
Wed, 12 August 2015 13:24 |
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JP, I've been toying with the idea of setting up a GMC wiki that could consolidate information from various sites (with site owners' permission, of course). I know WordPress is very popular right now for content management and site design, but I'm wondering if MediaWiki (the software that Wikipedia runs on) would be better suited for GMC information search and retrieval.
Bryan Hayes
'76 Eleganza II
Salt Lake City, Utah
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