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77 Kingsley RARE Rear Twin Dry Bath $8000. Located in North Alabama

This coach was built by Clarence Buskirk, noted GMC restorer. It has lots and lots of amazing features and upgrades. It was driven regularly until the past two years when the owner became ill. Relatives used the coach a few times during this period so it wasn't just sitting.

- STRONG 501 Cadillac with port fuel injection by Rance Baxter with computer and manual (note this is older software)
- 3:46 final drive (and I believe a chain powerdrive also based on road speed and tach RPM 3100 rpm at 60mph)
- RARE GMC rear twin/dry bath layout. This was standard on GMC Edgemonts and optional on other models. I'm aware of one other Kingsley with this, the most desirable of GMC floorplans. Bed length is 78", the longest of any GMC or upfitter coach.
- Super heavy sway bars on all 3 axles...Caspro I expect
- Best driving GMC I've ever driven. No wander or wiggle...rock solid and pulls like a train.
- Transmission shifts very nice.
- Modern electronic 120 to 12 V converter....Progressive Dynamics or similar. It's located behind the stove and I have not pulled the stove to determine the name. it works fine.
- Updated Fridge
- Upgraded monitor system (see photos)
- Cherry cabinet doors
- Tuffed and pleated headliner
- Updated hot water heater
- Moses Darcy air compressor
- Aluminum water tank
- Satellite system. There is a controller and cables in the bedroom. I assume you'll need a direct TV box or similar.
- Dual air (both work)
- Awnings on both sides
- Original burnt orange upholstery in great shape except for wear in cockpit seats
- What appears to be a practically new Onan Emerald mounted on slides
- Air horns
- Storage pod on roof
- SEVEN Alcoa wheels
- Older tires with 90% tread
- Two new Delco batteries
- Factory option thermometer by drivers window
- Dinette makes a bed
- Carpet needs replacing
- Dry bath module is somewhat yellowed. Can be easily painted
- Paint is so-so. While it is a 77, it was painted (by Buskirk) in 78 colors. Faded in some spots. - Needs a bath really bad and there are a few dings

Here is the deal. We bought this at an estate auction last fall with the idea of doing a total restore and making it our primary coach. Reality has set in and the restoration just isn't going to fit in with the rest of our 'life'. The motor starts immediately and runs great. Shifts and drives fine. Brakes are so-so. It could be the booster or it could be the P30 master cylinder rather than the stock MC. Driver's windshield is cracked. I have a spare that I will include but it, like these, has some fogging.

Fridge works fine. It is a 120V/Propane and because the propane tank is empty I can't verify it works on propane. It does switch and display 'propane' indicating it's trying. It is a newer black face unit so I expect it does. It does fine on AC power.

The windshield wipers do not work. I have a Henderson electric conversion that I can add for cost. The price quoted is as-is. If I have to do any work and verify this or that, the price goes up. We bought it with a lot of unknowns because of the floor plan and the engine. Later, we discovered a ton of other significant upgrades such as being a Buskirk coach. It will need a lot of work to make a super nice coach but oh what a coach it will be!

One thing we've learned with the restoration of our 77 Eleganza is that you're pretty much going to have to go through everything anyway. Because of the floorplan, this coach will be considerably more valuable and desirable at the end of that process. You're going to spend 20K to get a nice coach where you want it. Spend a bit of money and some time on this one and you'll really have a great and desirable coach.

Tons of photos in this album:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6746-77-kingsley.html

For the forum users, here are some key photos. Go to the album for more:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6746/medium/Kingsley_1.jpg

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6746/medium/Kingsley_3.jpg

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6746/medium/Kingsley_4.jpg

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6746/medium/Kingsley_5.jpg

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6746/medium/Small_flame_2_10.jpg

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6746/medium/Small_flame_2_3.jpg

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6746/medium/Small_flame_2_4.jpg

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6746/medium/Small_flame_2_8.jpg

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6746/medium/Small_flame_2_9.jpg


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Re: [GMCnet] 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284333 is a reply to message #284328] Sat, 08 August 2015 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tim Hart is currently offline  Tim Hart   United States
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Is the GMC drivable from N Alabama to north Ga.

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> On Aug 8, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
>
> 77 Kingsley RARE Rear Twin Dry Bath $8000. Located in North Alabama
>
> This coach was built by Clarence Buskirk, noted GMC restorer. It has lots and lots of amazing features and upgrades. It was driven regularly until the
> past two years when the owner became ill. Relatives used the coach a few times during this period so it wasn't just sitting.
>
> - STRONG 501 Cadillac with port fuel injection by Rance Baxter with computer and manual (note this is older software)
> - 3:46 final drive (and I believe a chain powerdrive also based on road speed and tach RPM 3100 rpm at 60mph)
> - RARE GMC rear twin/dry bath layout. This was standard on GMC Edgemonts and optional on other models. I'm aware of one other Kingsley with this, the
> most desirable of GMC floorplans. Bed length is 78", the longest of any GMC or upfitter coach.
> - Super heavy sway bars on all 3 axles...Caspro I expect
> - Best driving GMC I've ever driven. No wander or wiggle...rock solid and pulls like a train.
> - Transmission shifts very nice.
> - Modern electronic 120 to 12 V converter....Progressive Dynamics or similar. It's located behind the stove and I have not pulled the stove to
> determine the name. it works fine.
> - Updated Fridge
> - Upgraded monitor system (see photos)
> - Cherry cabinet doors
> - Tuffed and pleated headliner
> - Updated hot water heater
> - Moses Darcy air compressor
> - Aluminum water tank
> - Satellite system. There is a controller and cables in the bedroom. I assume you'll need a direct TV box or similar.
> - Dual air (both work)
> - Awnings on both sides
> - Original burnt orange upholstery in great shape except for wear in cockpit seats
> - What appears to be a practically new Onan Emerald mounted on slides
> - Air horns
> - Storage pod on roof
> - SEVEN Alcoa wheels
> - Older tires with 90% tread
> - Two new Delco batteries
> - Factory option thermometer by drivers window
> - Dinette makes a bed
> - Carpet needs replacing
> - Dry bath module is somewhat yellowed. Can be easily painted
> - Paint is so-so. While it is a 77, it was painted (by Buskirk) in 78 colors. Faded in some spots. - Needs a bath really bad and there are a few
> dings
>
> Here is the deal. We bought this at an estate auction last fall with the idea of doing a total restore and making it our primary coach. Reality has
> set in and the restoration just isn't going to fit in with the rest of our 'life'. The motor starts immediately and runs great. Shifts and drives
> fine. Brakes are so-so. It could be the booster or it could be the P30 master cylinder rather than the stock MC. Driver's windshield is cracked. I
> have a spare that I will include but it, like these, has some fogging.
>
> Fridge works fine. It is a 120V/Propane and because the propane tank is empty I can't verify it works on propane. It does switch and display 'propane'
> indicating it's trying. It is a newer black face unit so I expect it does. It does fine on AC power.
>
> The windshield wipers do not work. I have a Henderson electric conversion that I can add for cost. The price quoted is as-is. If I have to do any work
> and verify this or that, the price goes up. We bought it with a lot of unknowns because of the floor plan and the engine. Later, we discovered a ton
> of other significant upgrades such as being a Buskirk coach. It will need a lot of work to make a super nice coach but oh what a coach it will be!
>
> One thing we've learned with the restoration of our 77 Eleganza is that you're pretty much going to have to go through everything anyway. Because of
> the floorplan, this coach will be considerably more valuable and desirable at the end of that process. You're going to spend 20K to get a nice coach
> where you want it. Spend a bit of money and some time on this one and you'll really have a great and desirable coach.
>
> Tons of photos in this album:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6746-77-kingsley.html
>
> For the forum users, here are some key photos. Go to the album for more:
>
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> Kerry Pinkerton
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> North Alabama
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> 77 Eleganza II, 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny, lots of aluminum goodies.
>
> 77 Kingsley by Buskirk. Rear twins/dry bath, EFI Caddy.
>
> Also a 76 Eleganza to be re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
>
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Re: [GMCnet] 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284336 is a reply to message #284328] Sat, 08 August 2015 19:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kerry,

very nice coach. And very attractive price. Damn that I already have one ;)

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Re: [GMCnet] 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284337 is a reply to message #284336] Sat, 08 August 2015 20:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Answer to Tim. Knowing Kerry, you can bet that the coach is drivable anywhere. He just has too many irons in the fire.
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Re: [GMCnet] 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284339 is a reply to message #284333] Sat, 08 August 2015 20:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tim Hart wrote on Sat, 08 August 2015 19:46
Is the GMC drivable from N Alabama to north Ga


The brakes aren't great but I'd do it. I have a Lenzi booster and some other brake stuff that I will sell separately. I drove it from Columbia TN to Huntsville, Al with no problems at all.


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Re: [GMCnet] 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284340 is a reply to message #284333] Sat, 08 August 2015 20:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tim Hart wrote on Sat, 08 August 2015 19:46
Is the GMC drivable from N Alabama to north Ga.
Ask him if he will drive it to you if you give him a ride home. Pay him for it, let him drive it to your place under his ownership (and insurance), and then convey ownership at your place. Use your daily driver to get him home.
Re: [GMCnet] 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284342 is a reply to message #284340] Sat, 08 August 2015 20:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A Hamilto wrote on Sat, 08 August 2015 20:23
Tim Hart wrote on Sat, 08 August 2015 19:46
Is the GMC drivable from N Alabama to north Ga.
Ask him if he will drive it to you if you give him a ride home. Pay him for it, let him drive it to your place under his ownership (and insurance), and then convey ownership at your place. Use your daily driver to get him home.
Whoever buys it needs to consider replacing either the final drive or the PowerDrive. It doesn't need a 4.2:1 drive ratio with a fuel injected Cad500 engine. From Kerry's RPM reading at 60 MPH, it has BOTH a Manny PowerDrive AND a 3.70 final drive.

With a Cad500, I'd take them both out and go back to 3.07 final drive ratio.
Re: 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284344 is a reply to message #284328] Sat, 08 August 2015 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have no insurance or tag for it. Title is clear.

Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284351 is a reply to message #284328] Sat, 08 August 2015 22:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tell whomever gets it I'll swap my 3:07 for the 3:46.

--johnny


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Re: 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284356 is a reply to message #284351] Sat, 08 August 2015 23:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Johnny Bridges wrote on Sat, 08 August 2015 22:21
Tell whomever gets it I'll swap my 3:07 for the 3:46.
--johnny
I think it is a 3.70. The other choices would be 3.42 or 3.55, but the RPMs at 60 MPH means the engine is turning 4.2 times for every rev of the wheels. The only way I can get that number is a Manny PowerDrive and a 3.70 final drive.

Maybe the tach is wrong?
Re: 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284370 is a reply to message #284328] Sun, 09 August 2015 07:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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3.70 is more than I need. My 23' does fine solo, but when the toad's clipped on I'd like it to turn up just a bit more.

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Re: 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284378 is a reply to message #284328] Sun, 09 August 2015 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Guys, can we not hijack my thread and turn it into a final drive ratio thread. Please.

Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: [GMCnet] 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284389 is a reply to message #284378] Sun, 09 August 2015 10:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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How far is this coach from Leesburg, AL???

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> On Aug 9, 2015, at 7:17 AM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
>
> Guys, can we not hijack my thread and turn it into a final drive ratio thread. Please.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama
>
> 77 Eleganza II, 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny, lots of aluminum goodies.
>
> 77 Kingsley by Buskirk. Rear twins/dry bath, EFI Caddy.
>
> Also a 76 Eleganza to be re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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Re: [GMCnet] 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284391 is a reply to message #284389] Sun, 09 August 2015 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am 09.08.2015 um 11:52 schrieb Duallycc:
> Leesburg, AL
I'd say about 95mls

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Re: 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284393 is a reply to message #284328] Sun, 09 August 2015 12:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kerry -

I'll take it, $8.000.

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Re: 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284398 is a reply to message #284328] Sun, 09 August 2015 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Two of them 'got away', I'll ride with this one. She and I aren't getting any younger, but we can still enjoy it. Much as I love my 23', she wants a bit more room.

--johnny


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Re: [GMCnet] 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284407 is a reply to message #284393] Sun, 09 August 2015 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I haven't yet seen it, but from all I've heard, you just got a bargain. 5
years ago I'd have beaten you to it.

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> Kerry -
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> I'll take it, $8.000.
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Re: 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284410 is a reply to message #284393] Sun, 09 August 2015 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Johnny

Looks like an excellent decision -- look forward to seeing how you prep it for your own use.

Dennis

Johnny Bridges wrote on Sun, 09 August 2015 12:09
Kerry -

I'll take it, $8.000.

--johnny



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Re: [GMCnet] 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284418 is a reply to message #284378] Sun, 09 August 2015 15:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kerry,
Who did you sell the coach to? Your right that you were a little under priced. 10 to 11k dollars would have be a fair price if not a little more.


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> On Aug 9, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
>
> Guys, can we not hijack my thread and turn it into a final drive ratio thread. Please.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama
>
> 77 Eleganza II, 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny, lots of aluminum goodies.
>
> 77 Kingsley by Buskirk. Rear twins/dry bath, EFI Caddy.
>
> Also a 76 Eleganza to be re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
>
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Re: 77 Buskirk Kingsley Rear Twin Dry Bath, Caddy power $8000 [message #284473 is a reply to message #284328] Mon, 10 August 2015 10:15 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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The Kingsley is sold to someone who beat Johnny to the draw.

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