| [GMCnet] Screws for the FRP headliner [message #283721] |
Sun, 02 August 2015 11:15  |
Olly Schmidt
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What screws (size and type) did you guys use to keep the FRP headliner
in place?
Thanks.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Screws for the FRP headliner [message #283736 is a reply to message #283728] |
Sun, 02 August 2015 11:53  |
Olly Schmidt
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Terry,
> I think I would use #8, sheet metal, pan-head or truss-head, self-drilling phillips head screws, 3/4 to 1 1/4 inch long depending on what is being
> fastened and the possible depth of where it's going. Don't put any through the roof... 8o You could also use flat-head (countersunk) screws if you use
> hard enough bows to fasten through. Don't think flat-heads would work well on bare FRP.
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> Where the front edge of the FRP and cockpit headliner shell meet, I would be putting a 1/4 inch thick wooden bow to hide that seam and use snap- head
> screws to fasten it and then I would be able to snap a curtain across that opening for winter insulation and privacy when camping.
Thanks. The length kinda has me wondering, but I am sure you know what
you are talking about, so I'll get a bunch of those, once I found a
place where I can cut the sheets.
Thanks again!
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| Re: [GMCnet] Screws for the FRP headliner [message #283744 is a reply to message #283721] |
Sun, 02 August 2015 13:03 |
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I don't remember where I did it, or which coach, but somewhere I drilled
and tapped for a 6-32 machine screw and used the ivory colored hold down
screw from a light switch cover.
I think it was in an overhead FRP panel or in the panel behind the
cooktop. It was just to take the droop out of the FRP. Worked OK and
hardly showed.
ronc
On Sun, 02 Aug 2015 10:43:00 -0600 Terry writes:
> I think I would use #8, sheet metal, pan-head or truss-head,
> self-drilling phillips head screws, 3/4 to 1 1/4 inch long depending
> on what is being
> fastened and the possible depth of where it's going. Don't put any
> through the roof... 8o You could also use flat-head (countersunk)
> screws if you use
> hard enough bows to fasten through. Don't think flat-heads would
> work well on bare FRP.
>
> Where the front edge of the FRP and cockpit headliner shell meet, I
> would be putting a 1/4 inch thick wooden bow to hide that seam and
> use snap- head
> screws to fasten it and then I would be able to snap a curtain
> across that opening for winter insulation and privacy when camping.
> --
> Terry Kelpien
> ASE Master Technician
> 73 Glacier 260
> Smithfield, Va.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Screws for the FRP headliner [message #283757 is a reply to message #283721] |
Sun, 02 August 2015 15:10 |
Jim Miller
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> On Aug 2, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC wrote:
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> What screws (size and type) did you guys use to keep the FRP headliner in place?
I used no fasteners on my FRP headliner - the new sheets were cut using the old panels as templates. I simply put both ends into the side rails and pushed up the center. The FRP material was stiff enough to hold itself in place until such time as I could put the transverse strips back on. I advise using the old panels as templates - it makes the project much, much easier.
This album shows my whole ceiling removal/replacement project:
http://www.jcmco.com/gallery/album01
--Jim "saving the lives of Onans...one unit at a time" Miller
1977 Eleganza II
1977 Royale
Hamilton, OH
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| Re: [GMCnet] Screws for the FRP headliner [message #283761 is a reply to message #283757] |
Sun, 02 August 2015 15:53 |
Olly Schmidt
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Jim,
your gallery is very informative. It seems as if you haven't removed the
front cap. I would prefer to leave it in (even though I already did
unscrew the sunvisors (what a pain)).
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| Re: [GMCnet] Screws for the FRP headliner [message #283771 is a reply to message #283761] |
Sun, 02 August 2015 17:49 |
Jim Miller
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On Aug 2, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote:
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> your gallery is very informative.
Thank you!
> It seems as if you haven't removed the front cap. I would prefer to leave it in (even though I already did unscrew the sunvisors (what a pain)).
That is correct - I did not remove the front cap nor the plastic stuff in the back that surrounds the rear window. The shell in the back already had a crack that someone had drill-stopped so I figured I had best leave it alone.
I have not yet tried unscrewing the visors but have been warned by several that it can be a real job.
I’m really happy with FRP as ceiling material.
--Jim "saving the lives of Onans...one unit at a time" Miller
1977 Eleganza II
1977 Royale
Hamilton, OH
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| Re: [GMCnet] Screws for the FRP headliner [message #283799 is a reply to message #283798] |
Sun, 02 August 2015 21:34 |
Olly Schmidt
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Am 02.08.2015 um 22:18 schrieb Thomas Phipps:
> Removing sun visor easy. Reinstalling is a PITA. Very fine thread and not much feel for the target.
> Tom, MS II
If reinstalling is an even greater PITA, I fail to understand how anyone
can do that without a gun to his/her head
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| Re: [GMCnet] Screws for the FRP headliner [message #283810 is a reply to message #283721] |
Mon, 03 August 2015 07:42 |
kerry pinkerton
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I didn't have any problem putting them back up. It is tedious because the fine thread takes forever and the arc to swing the wrench is only about 90 degrees but it wasn't difficult. Perhaps I was just lucky and got the line up correct before the threads were cross threaded.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
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You could also use flat-head (countersunk) screws if you use hard enough bows to fasten through. Don't think flat-heads would work well on bare FRP. 
