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Short Trip Report/ Vapor Lock Solution [message #283687] |
Sat, 01 August 2015 18:33 |
Carl S.
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We just returned from a 400 mile round trip to Silver City NM, staying at Burro Mountain Homestead (3rd time). The trip was the first trip since modifying the carburetor filter inlet housing in an effort to finally cure the fuel starvation problems that have plagued this coach ever since I have owned it. I have to say the modifications (http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6819-carburetor-fuel-return.html) were 98% successful.
The trip from Tucson to Burro Mountain starts at about 2,500 ft and ends at about 6,600 ft. There are several up and down grades along the route, some fairly steep. I have had 'vapor lock' issues on this route before, but this time, I had not so much as a cough the whole (almost) trip. Up the hills, towing the Tracker, flat out, four barrel open, vacuum gauge reading 2 - 3 inches, temps in the upper 80s t0 lower 90s, were no problem, without even turning on the electric booster pump. The only issue I had was on the last few miles from home which involved accelerating from a red light to 45 mph, up a hill, in 100 degree heat, after driving 15 miles across town on surface streets. Turning on the electric pump cleared things up for the most part.
All in all it was a great trip with only minor issues with the coach. The right outer CV boot blew out and sent grease flying all over the suspension on that side. We discovered a new window leak on the left large window during a downpour. The generator conked out after running the roof air for about half an hour and wouldn't restart. All relatively minor problems that are easily fixed. The Silver City area is beautiful, especially the area known as the "Trail of the Mountain Spirits" east and north of tow, Some of you may have seen some pics I posted on Facebook. About 20 degrees cooler up there than Tucson too. Highly recommended as a trip destination.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Re: Short Trip Report/ Vapor Lock Solution [message #283831 is a reply to message #283687] |
Mon, 03 August 2015 11:51 |
Bob de Kruyff
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Carl S. wrote on Sat, 01 August 2015 17:33We just returned from a 400 mile round trip to Silver City NM, staying at Burro Mountain Homestead (3rd time). The trip was the first trip since modifying the carburetor filter inlet housing in an effort to finally cure the fuel starvation problems that have plagued this coach ever since I have owned it. I have to say the modifications (http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6819-carburetor-fuel-return.html) were 98% successful.
The trip from Tucson to Burro Mountain starts at about 2,500 ft and ends at about 6,600 ft. There are several up and down grades along the route, some fairly steep. I have had 'vapor lock' issues on this route before, but this time, I had not so much as a cough the whole (almost) trip. Up the hills, towing the Tracker, flat out, four barrel open, vacuum gauge reading 2 - 3 inches, temps in the upper 80s t0 lower 90s, were no problem, without even turning on the electric booster pump. The only issue I had was on the last few miles from home which involved accelerating from a red light to 45 mph, up a hill, in 100 degree heat, after driving 15 miles across town on surface streets. Turning on the electric pump cleared things up for the most part.
All in all it was a great trip with only minor issues with the coach. The right outer CV boot blew out and sent grease flying all over the suspension on that side. We discovered a new window leak on the left large window during a downpour. The generator conked out after running the roof air for about half an hour and wouldn't restart. All relative minor problems that are easily fixed. The Silver City area is beautiful, especially the area known as the "Trail of the Mountain Spirits" east and north of tow, Some of you may have seen some pics I posted on Facebook. About 20 degrees cooler up there thyan Tucson too. Highly recommended as a trip destination.
That's enough for me to move forward as well.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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Re: [GMCnet] Short Trip Report/ Vapor Lock Solution [message #283834 is a reply to message #283831] |
Mon, 03 August 2015 12:21 |
kelvin
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Just did 800 miles into Central Washington and over 3 steep mountain
passes at +90 degrees. I experienced vapor lock for the first time
(other than that slow-speed, street stuff that Carl talks about). 93°,
low on fuel and 4000ft Blewett Pass was the right combination. I'll bet
those last 15 gallons of fuel were damn hot.
Looking at the pictures, Carl, and there's one change I would make.
Running even a short piece of fuel hose on top of the engine like that
has caused problems in the past. There's a reason the fuel line to the
carb is all steel. Keep an sharp eye on that rubber hose. I'll be
doing a solid steel line, I think.
Thanks for the tip.
Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR
> Carl S. wrote on Sat, 01 August 2015 17:33
>> We just returned from a 400 mile round trip to Silver City NM, staying at Burro Mountain Homestead (3rd time). The trip was the first trip since
>> modifying the carburetor filter inlet housing in an effort to finally cure the fuel starvation problems that have plagued this coach ever since I
>> have owned it. I have to say the modifications (http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6819-carburetor-fuel-return.html) were 98% successful.
>>
>> The trip from Tucson to Burro Mountain starts at about 2,500 ft and ends at about 6,600 ft. There are several up and down grades along the route,
>> some fairly steep. I have had 'vapor lock' issues on this route before, but this time, I had not so much as a cough the whole (almost) trip. Up
>> the hills, towing the Tracker, flat out, four barrel open, vacuum gauge reading 2 - 3 inches, temps in the upper 80s t0 lower 90s, were no problem,
>> without even turning on the electric booster pump. The only issue I had was on the last few miles from home which involved accelerating from a red
>> light to 45 mph, up a hill, in 100 degree heat, after driving 15 miles across town on surface streets. Turning on the electric pump cleared things
>> up for the most part.
>>
>> All in all it was a great trip with only minor issues with the coach. The right outer CV boot blew out and sent grease flying all over the
>> suspension on that side. We discovered a new window leak on the left large window during a downpour. The generator conked out after running the
>> roof air for about half an hour and wouldn't restart. All relative minor problems that are easily fixed. The Silver City area is beautiful,
>> especially the area known as the "Trail of the Mountain Spirits" east and north of tow, Some of you may have seen some pics I posted on Facebook.
>> About 20 degrees cooler up there thyan Tucson too. Highly recommended as a trip destination.
> That's enough for me to move forward as well.
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Re: [GMCnet] Short Trip Report/ Vapor Lock Solution [message #283839 is a reply to message #283834] |
Mon, 03 August 2015 13:46 |
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Why would rubber hose be anymore of a problem than Steel.....wouldn't that be the hottest place in the fuel line and insulation value of rubber be better than Steel? or is air flow there actually cooling the lines? I can see that steel would be good from a preventing fire point of view.........
Pete
kelvin wrote on Mon, 03 August 2015 13:21Just did 800 miles into Central Washington and over 3 steep mountain
passes at +90 degrees. I experienced vapor lock for the first time
(other than that slow-speed, street stuff that Carl talks about). 93°,
low on fuel and 4000ft Blewett Pass was the right combination. I'll bet
those last 15 gallons of fuel were damn hot.
Looking at the pictures, Carl, and there's one change I would make.
Running even a short piece of fuel hose on top of the engine like that
has caused problems in the past. There's a reason the fuel line to the
carb is all steel. Keep an sharp eye on that rubber hose. I'll be
doing a solid steel line, I think.
Thanks for the tip.
Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR
> Carl S. wrote on Sat, 01 August 2015 17:33
>> We just returned from a 400 mile round trip to Silver City NM, staying at Burro Mountain Homestead (3rd time). The trip was the first trip since
>> modifying the carburetor filter inlet housing in an effort to finally cure the fuel starvation problems that have plagued this coach ever since I
>> have owned it. I have to say the modifications (http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6819-carburetor-fuel-return.html) were 98% successful.
>>
>> The trip from Tucson to Burro Mountain starts at about 2,500 ft and ends at about 6,600 ft. There are several up and down grades along the route,
>> some fairly steep. I have had 'vapor lock' issues on this route before, but this time, I had not so much as a cough the whole (almost) trip. Up
>> the hills, towing the Tracker, flat out, four barrel open, vacuum gauge reading 2 - 3 inches, temps in the upper 80s t0 lower 90s, were no problem,
>> without even turning on the electric booster pump. The only issue I had was on the last few miles from home which involved accelerating from a red
>> light to 45 mph, up a hill, in 100 degree heat, after driving 15 miles across town on surface streets. Turning on the electric pump cleared things
>> up for the most part.
>>
>> All in all it was a great trip with only minor issues with the coach. The right outer CV boot blew out and sent grease flying all over the
>> suspension on that side. We discovered a new window leak on the left large window during a downpour. The generator conked out after running the
>> roof air for about half an hour and wouldn't restart. All relative minor problems that are easily fixed. The Silver City area is beautiful,
>> especially the area known as the "Trail of the Mountain Spirits" east and north of tow, Some of you may have seen some pics I posted on Facebook.
>> About 20 degrees cooler up there thyan Tucson too. Highly recommended as a trip destination.
> That's enough for me to move forward as well.
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Re: [GMCnet] Short Trip Report/ Vapor Lock Solution [message #283840 is a reply to message #283834] |
Mon, 03 August 2015 13:43 |
James Hupy
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Kelvin, we ran that same route in may of this year. No problem on the way
up, but on the return trip, 90° day, bout the same fuel load as you, we had
vapor lock on Blewett as well. We have an in line Carter 4070 electric pump
with a bypass check valve. Flipped the switch, and symptoms disappeared.
Had a couple of other lower passes cause the same issues. Electric pump
helped out there as well. It works for us. We find it best to travel early
in the day, and to keep the tanks as full as reasonably possible.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Aug 3, 2015 10:21 AM, "Kelvin Dietz" wrote:
> Just did 800 miles into Central Washington and over 3 steep mountain
> passes at +90 degrees. I experienced vapor lock for the first time (other
> than that slow-speed, street stuff that Carl talks about). 93°, low on
> fuel and 4000ft Blewett Pass was the right combination. I'll bet those
> last 15 gallons of fuel were damn hot.
>
> Looking at the pictures, Carl, and there's one change I would make.
> Running even a short piece of fuel hose on top of the engine like that has
> caused problems in the past. There's a reason the fuel line to the carb is
> all steel. Keep an sharp eye on that rubber hose. I'll be doing a solid
> steel line, I think.
>
> Thanks for the tip.
>
> Kelvin
> '73 23' in Eugene, OR
>
> Carl S. wrote on Sat, 01 August 2015 17:33
>>
>>> We just returned from a 400 mile round trip to Silver City NM, staying
>>> at Burro Mountain Homestead (3rd time). The trip was the first trip since
>>> modifying the carburetor filter inlet housing in an effort to finally
>>> cure the fuel starvation problems that have plagued this coach ever since I
>>> have owned it. I have to say the modifications (
>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6819-carburetor-fuel-return.html)
>>> were 98% successful.
>>>
>>> The trip from Tucson to Burro Mountain starts at about 2,500 ft and ends
>>> at about 6,600 ft. There are several up and down grades along the route,
>>> some fairly steep. I have had 'vapor lock' issues on this route before,
>>> but this time, I had not so much as a cough the whole (almost) trip. Up
>>> the hills, towing the Tracker, flat out, four barrel open, vacuum gauge
>>> reading 2 - 3 inches, temps in the upper 80s t0 lower 90s, were no problem,
>>> without even turning on the electric booster pump. The only issue I had
>>> was on the last few miles from home which involved accelerating from a red
>>> light to 45 mph, up a hill, in 100 degree heat, after driving 15 miles
>>> across town on surface streets. Turning on the electric pump cleared things
>>> up for the most part.
>>>
>>> All in all it was a great trip with only minor issues with the coach.
>>> The right outer CV boot blew out and sent grease flying all over the
>>> suspension on that side. We discovered a new window leak on the left
>>> large window during a downpour. The generator conked out after running the
>>> roof air for about half an hour and wouldn't restart. All relative
>>> minor problems that are easily fixed. The Silver City area is beautiful,
>>> especially the area known as the "Trail of the Mountain Spirits" east
>>> and north of tow, Some of you may have seen some pics I posted on Facebook.
>>> About 20 degrees cooler up there thyan Tucson too. Highly recommended
>>> as a trip destination.
>>>
>> That's enough for me to move forward as well.
>>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Short Trip Report/ Vapor Lock Solution [message #283856 is a reply to message #283852] |
Mon, 03 August 2015 16:19 |
Carl S.
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I will keep a close eye on the rubber line at the carburetor. In the past, many vehicles have had rubber fuel lines on top of the engine, maybe not from the factory, but lots have run them with no issues. My thinking was that the rubber connection provided a little bit of flexibility. I don't know if that is needed or not. A different fitting or two would allow an all steel flair connection just as easily, and I may change that at some future point.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Re: [GMCnet] Short Trip Report/ Vapor Lock Solution [message #283860 is a reply to message #283856] |
Mon, 03 August 2015 16:41 |
kelvin
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On 8/3/2015 2:19 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
> I will keep a close eye on the rubber line at the carburetor. In the past, many vehicles have had rubber fuel lines on top of the engine, maybe not
> from the factory, but lots have run them with no issues. My thinking was that the rubber connection provided a little bit of flexibility. I don't
> know if that is needed or not. A different fitting or two would allow an all steel flair connection just as easily, and I may change that at some
> future point.
The rubber tends to get very hot, very hard and eventually cracks. A
real issue if you haven't blocked the exhaust crossover. My PO told me
about smelling gas and popping the hatch to find pools of fuel being
held in the intake manifold "pockets" because of a split hose. I think
I heard of other GMC fires caused by the same problem.
Again... there's no pressure in that line but the rubber will suffer the
same torture. It may never split, however.
I don't think you'd need any flexibility assuming you secure the steel
line carefully, which it looks like you're already done with the current
setup.
It's probably not an issue. I just tend to think in terms of NEVER
having an issue. :^)
Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR
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Re: [GMCnet] Short Trip Report/ Vapor Lock Solution [message #283861 is a reply to message #283840] |
Mon, 03 August 2015 16:45 |
kelvin
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On 8/3/2015 11:43 AM, James Hupy wrote:
> Kelvin, we ran that same route in may of this year. No problem on the way
> up, but on the return trip, 90° day, bout the same fuel load as you, we had
> vapor lock on Blewett as well.
I didn't even consider the 20mile climb up Blewett on the way home. I
discovered Stevens is a much nicer, more gradual climb.
> We have an in line Carter 4070 electric pump with a bypass check valve. Flipped the switch, and symptoms disappeared.
I know of this fix. Never needed it before. An unusual mix of
circumstances made me wish I'd gone to the trouble.
> We find it best to travel early in the day, and to keep the tanks as full as reasonably possible.
Left Leavenworth at 8am with a full tank. I'm not usually up until
8ish when I'm camping so you know that took some determination. :^)
Kelvin
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Re: [GMCnet] Short Trip Report/ Vapor Lock Solution [message #283870 is a reply to message #283860] |
Mon, 03 August 2015 19:54 |
Carl S.
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kelvin wrote on Mon, 03 August 2015 14:41On 8/3/2015 2:19 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
> I will keep a close eye on the rubber line at the carburetor. In the past, many vehicles have had rubber fuel lines on top of the engine, maybe not
> from the factory, but lots have run them with no issues. My thinking was that the rubber connection provided a little bit of flexibility. I don't
> know if that is needed or not. A different fitting or two would allow an all steel flair connection just as easily, and I may change that at some
> future point.
The rubber tends to get very hot, very hard and eventually cracks. A
real issue if you haven't blocked the exhaust crossover. My PO told me
about smelling gas and popping the hatch to find pools of fuel being
held in the intake manifold "pockets" because of a split hose. I think
I heard of other GMC fires caused by the same problem.
Again... there's no pressure in that line but the rubber will suffer the
same torture. It may never split, however.
I don't think you'd need any flexibility assuming you secure the steel
line carefully, which it looks like you're already done with the current
setup.
It's probably not an issue. I just tend to think in terms of NEVER
having an issue. :^)
Kelvin
'73 23' in Eugene, OR
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I guess I'd be more concerned if I didn't have the Rockwell aluminum intake manifold. I doubt that the temps get hot enough under the hatch to cook a rubber fuel hose. Still, I will make sure I check it regularly.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Re: [GMCnet] Short Trip Report/ Vapor Lock Solution [message #283872 is a reply to message #283870] |
Mon, 03 August 2015 20:33 |
jimk
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I have been hired to help analyse some of the fires on the GMC coaches.
Almost 70% have a steel line that has been cut and possibly a fuel filter
connected with rubber hoses,
The other 15% was at the fuel pump where they capped of the return line on
the fuel pump.
It is very easy to forget when they were installed and when it needs to be
replaced.
Using rubber on the none pressure side is fine, but dangerous on the
pressure side.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
> kelvin wrote on Mon, 03 August 2015 14:41
>> On 8/3/2015 2:19 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
>>> I will keep a close eye on the rubber line at the carburetor. In the
> past, many vehicles have had rubber fuel lines on top of the engine,
>>> maybe not
>>> from the factory, but lots have run them with no issues. My thinking
> was that the rubber connection provided a little bit of flexibility. I
>>> don't
>>> know if that is needed or not. A different fitting or two would
> allow an all steel flair connection just as easily, and I may change that at
>>> some
>>> future point.
>>
>> The rubber tends to get very hot, very hard and eventually cracks. A
>> real issue if you haven't blocked the exhaust crossover. My PO told me
>> about smelling gas and popping the hatch to find pools of fuel being
>> held in the intake manifold "pockets" because of a split hose. I think
>> I heard of other GMC fires caused by the same problem.
>>
>> Again... there's no pressure in that line but the rubber will suffer the
>> same torture. It may never split, however.
>>
>> I don't think you'd need any flexibility assuming you secure the steel
>> line carefully, which it looks like you're already done with the current
>> setup.
>>
>> It's probably not an issue. I just tend to think in terms of NEVER
>> having an issue. :^)
>>
>> Kelvin
>> '73 23' in Eugene, OR
>>
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>
> I guess I'd be more concerned if I didn't have the Rockwell aluminum
> intake manifold. I doubt that the temps get hot enough under the hatch to
> cook a
> rubber fuel hose. Still, I will make sure I check it regularly.
>
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
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Re: Short Trip Report/ Vapor Lock Solution [message #283873 is a reply to message #283687] |
Mon, 03 August 2015 20:40 |
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Between the pump and carb should be only steel even though low pressure, i broke this rule once as a teen to put a Holley where there was a Rochester and found the life span of the hose remarkably short. Lucky I caught it and that was before E10.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
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Re: [GMCnet] Short Trip Report/ Vapor Lock Solution [message #283876 is a reply to message #283872] |
Mon, 03 August 2015 20:50 |
jimk
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Speaking about fires;
One should install the Fire Fight Unit for the engine area.
This is unlike the usual extinguisher which damage the electrical and
cause one to have it rewired.
One customer had a fire from a rubber hose that leaked and started a fire,
but the unit went off and next day he was back on the road as the wire
connectors were not effected as that foam does not damage electrical
components.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
> I have been hired to help analyse some of the fires on the GMC coaches.
> Almost 70% have a steel line that has been cut and possibly a fuel filter
> connected with rubber hoses,
> The other 15% was at the fuel pump where they capped of the return line on
> the fuel pump.
> It is very easy to forget when they were installed and when it needs to be
> replaced.
> Using rubber on the none pressure side is fine, but dangerous on the
> pressure side.
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
>
>> kelvin wrote on Mon, 03 August 2015 14:41
>>> On 8/3/2015 2:19 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
>>>> I will keep a close eye on the rubber line at the carburetor. In
>> the past, many vehicles have had rubber fuel lines on top of the engine,
>>>> maybe not
>>>> from the factory, but lots have run them with no issues. My
>> thinking was that the rubber connection provided a little bit of
>> flexibility. I
>>>> don't
>>>> know if that is needed or not. A different fitting or two would
>> allow an all steel flair connection just as easily, and I may change that at
>>>> some
>>>> future point.
>>>
>>> The rubber tends to get very hot, very hard and eventually cracks. A
>>> real issue if you haven't blocked the exhaust crossover. My PO told me
>>> about smelling gas and popping the hatch to find pools of fuel being
>>> held in the intake manifold "pockets" because of a split hose. I think
>>> I heard of other GMC fires caused by the same problem.
>>>
>>> Again... there's no pressure in that line but the rubber will suffer the
>>> same torture. It may never split, however.
>>>
>>> I don't think you'd need any flexibility assuming you secure the steel
>>> line carefully, which it looks like you're already done with the current
>>> setup.
>>>
>>> It's probably not an issue. I just tend to think in terms of NEVER
>>> having an issue. :^)
>>>
>>> Kelvin
>>> '73 23' in Eugene, OR
>>>
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>>
>>
>> I guess I'd be more concerned if I didn't have the Rockwell aluminum
>> intake manifold. I doubt that the temps get hot enough under the hatch to
>> cook a
>> rubber fuel hose. Still, I will make sure I check it regularly.
>>
>> --
>> Carl Stouffer
>> '75 ex Palm Beach
>> Tucson, AZ.
>>
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>
>
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> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
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Re: [GMCnet] Short Trip Report/ Vapor Lock Solution [message #283882 is a reply to message #283872] |
Mon, 03 August 2015 23:08 |
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USAussie
Messages: 15912 Registered: July 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Yo Jim,
We have been there, done that! Here's the link to the presentation I put together from input from everybody on the GMCnet!
http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Mueller_GMCer-Fire-Guide.pdf
I just re-read the FUEL section and saw that NOTHING is noted regarding fuel pumps with return lines. I realize that not all fuel
pumps have the return line but people should check and see if they have a mechanical fuel pump with a capped off return. If they do
the cap should be checked to make sure it is serviceable!
Thanks for mentioning this; I'll work on getting the document updated.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Kanomata
I have been hired to help analyse some of the fires on the GMC coaches. Almost 70% have a steel line that has been cut and possibly
a fuel filter connected with rubber hoses, The other 15% was at the fuel pump where they capped of the return line on the fuel pump.
It is very easy to forget when they were installed and when it needs to be replaced. Using rubber on the none pressure side is fine,
but dangerous on the pressure side.
Jim
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
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