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| [GMCnet] Leakage (probably) found [message #283658] |
Sat, 01 August 2015 10:24  |
Olly Schmidt
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It seems, that it isn't the plumbing that's leaking in my coach. It is
the Norcold that is incontinent.
Any advise on how to fix it? It leaks water, nothing else, or so it seems.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Leakage (probably) found [message #283659 is a reply to message #283658] |
Sat, 01 August 2015 10:35  |
Olly Schmidt
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I wrote
> [..] It is the Norcold that is incontinent.
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> Any advise on how to fix it? It leaks water, nothing else, or so it
> seems.
Oh, and it is probably from the freezer. The freezer has ice and water
in it, whereas the cooler part is barely cold. For giggles I put a quart
of milk into the freezer, and this morning it was partly frozen...
Maybe that information helps.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Leakage (probably) found [message #283661 is a reply to message #283659] |
Sat, 01 August 2015 10:42 |
emerystora
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If the cooler part is not cooling then you likely have blockage where the cooler coil meets the freezer coil. This is due to the formation of crystals usually caused by operating the refrigerator in an off level position.
Nothing can reverse this and you'll have to replace the refrigerator.
Emery Stora
> On Aug 1, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC wrote:
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> I wrote
>> [..] It is the Norcold that is incontinent.
>>
>> Any advise on how to fix it? It leaks water, nothing else, or so it
>> seems.
> Oh, and it is probably from the freezer. The freezer has ice and water
> in it, whereas the cooler part is barely cold. For giggles I put a quart
> of milk into the freezer, and this morning it was partly frozen...
>
> Maybe that information helps.
>
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> Best regards
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> Peer Oliver Schmidt
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> '76a Eleganza II, VA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Leakage (probably) found [message #283663 is a reply to message #283662] |
Sat, 01 August 2015 10:57 |
Olly Schmidt
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Am 01.08.2015 um 11:54 schrieb A.:
> Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote on Sat, 01 August 2015 10:24
>> It seems, that it isn't the plumbing that's leaking in my coach. It is the Norcold that is incontinent.
>> Any advise on how to fix it? It leaks water, nothing else, or so it seems.
>> --
>> Best regards
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>> Peer Oliver Schmidt
>> PGP Key ID: 0x83E1C2EA
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>> '76a Eleganza II, VA
> Propane or electric only? Electric only relies on cold air from the freezer to fall into the refrigerator part. I guess if you get enough ice build up
> (because they are not frost free) you could block the air from falling.
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> No matter what, it sounds like you need to defrost your refrigerator and go from there.
The fridge was totally defrosted, as it wasn't in use for at least 4 month.
It is a 3-way, and I am running on 110V atm
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| Re: [GMCnet] Leakage (probably) found [message #283667 is a reply to message #283661] |
Sat, 01 August 2015 12:24 |
Olly Schmidt
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Emery,
> If the cooler part is not cooling then you likely have blockage where the cooler coil meets the freezer coil. This is due to the formation of crystals usually caused by operating the refrigerator in an off level position.
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> Nothing can reverse this and you'll have to replace the refrigerator.
>
Instead of replacing the whole thing (which would be in the 1k+USD
range), does it make sense to use http://www.rvfridgehouse.com/ and get
a replacement cooler from them? Price would be around 520 delivered.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Leakage (probably) found [message #283669 is a reply to message #283660] |
Sat, 01 August 2015 12:44 |
Olly Schmidt
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Emery,
> If it's leaking water it is from condensation on the find inside the box. There should be a tray under the coils that collects and usually a small hose connected to one end of the tray that goes through th back of the box and drips into a tray that sits on top of the outside coils. The water evaporates from that tray.
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> Check to see if the hose is disconnected inside and check to see if it drains into a bottom tray.
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> I can send pictures of how it all fits just in case you are missing parts.
>
I love pictures.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Leakage (probably) found [message #283671 is a reply to message #283658] |
Sat, 01 August 2015 13:07 |
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Seal the base tray to the roof INSIDE of where the condensation tray exits
the pan. Simplest is to buy a new gasket and replace. Might not be a bad
idea to purchase new hold down j brackets as they are sometimes trimmed
after installation and are too short to start the nut on with the new
gasket.
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
On Saturday, August 1, 2015, Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC
wrote:
> It seems, that it isn't the plumbing that's leaking in my coach. It is
> the Norcold that is incontinent.
>
> Any advise on how to fix it? It leaks water, nothing else, or so it seems.
> --
> Best regards
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> Peer Oliver Schmidt
> PGP Key ID: 0x83E1C2EA
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> '76a Eleganza II, VA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Leakage (probably) found [message #283672 is a reply to message #283671] |
Sat, 01 August 2015 15:41 |
Olly Schmidt
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Progress. The pipe that was going from the inside of the fridge's water
collecting bucket to the outside was broken off. Got some PEX tubing and
will see how it works out.
Still not happy about Emery's statement regarding the cooler part being
broken :(,
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| Re: [GMCnet] Leakage (probably) found [message #283673 is a reply to message #283672] |
Sat, 01 August 2015 16:18 |
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My bad, I thought you were talking roof ac
Sully
77 royale
Seattle
On Saturday, August 1, 2015, Peer Oliver Schmidt
wrote:
> Progress. The pipe that was going from the inside of the fridge's water
> collecting bucket to the outside was broken off. Got some PEX tubing and
> will see how it works out.
>
> Still not happy about Emery's statement regarding the cooler part being
> broken :(,
>
> --
> Best regards
>
> Peer Oliver Schmidt
> the internet company
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Seattle, Wa.
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| [GMCnet] Replacement fridge (was: Leakage (probably) found) [message #283691 is a reply to message #283683] |
Sat, 01 August 2015 19:25 |
Olly Schmidt
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Emery,
seems to be a case, even though somehow one must defrost the thing, and
the water must go places.
Anyway, a new cooler unit is around 520, so I am looking at something
like the Dometic RM2454 (@ 700) as a replacement. It isn't as high, so
should give me some additional space, and still be big enough my usage.
Any thoughts on that?
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Peer Oliver Schmidt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Replacement fridge (was: Leakage (probably) found) [message #283693 is a reply to message #283691] |
Sat, 01 August 2015 20:16 |
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Norcold has one that is 52 7/8 tall X23 1/2 wide.
We supply these and it fits, but you might need to spade out away from the
wall as it curves .
You might call me for a quote.
On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC <
posde@theinternet.de> wrote:
> Emery,
>
> seems to be a case, even though somehow one must defrost the thing, and
> the water must go places.
>
> Anyway, a new cooler unit is around 520, so I am looking at something
> like the Dometic RM2454 (@ 700) as a replacement. It isn't as high, so
> should give me some additional space, and still be big enough my usage.
>
> Any thoughts on that?
>
> --
> Best regards
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> Peer Oliver Schmidt
> PGP Key ID: 0x83E1C2EA
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> '76a Eleganza II, VA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Leakage (probably) found [message #283698 is a reply to message #283658] |
Sat, 01 August 2015 21:59 |
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I'd take the refrig out and operate it outside the MH.. This will help you solve the water issue and do a thorough cleaning of the complete refrig... Run it on 110v using a battery to operate the controls if needed... Sounds like your cooling unit is not your issue... Most service centers would take out to do complete test and cleaning.. Replace the drainage tubes and seal all possible air passages at the same time... Sounds like your getting air inside the fridg/ freezer causing ice to build..
Bill and Mary Kay Boeyen
76 23' Birchaven 455
Tampa, Florida
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| Re: [GMCnet] Leakage (probably) found [message #283701 is a reply to message #283658] |
Sat, 01 August 2015 22:44 |
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Jerry Sitzlar
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Peer,
Before you purchase a new unit, take the refrigerator out of the motor home, turn it upside down several times (at least ten). This sometimes dislodges the crystals that have been added to the ammonia coolant that will settle in curves and bends of the coils if the motor home sits at more than 3 degrees off level while the frig is running. Going up and down hills while traveling doesn't matter because the movement of the coach keeps things stirred up. This bunching of crystals prevents the ammonia from flowing. Also have you smelled a strong odor of ammonia? A leak will also kill the frig. Then with it still outside, hook it to AC voltage to see if it will now work. Anyway if it did start working again you would be $$$ ahead. I fixed the frig in one of my earlier SOBs by doing this.
Jerry
Jerry Sitzlar..... 77 Eleganza II, Twin bed, dry bath...... Lenoir City, TN (near Knoxville)
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