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Chris Tyler is currently offline  Chris Tyler   United States
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Curious if anyone loans or would consider loaning out their GMC...
I have turned down several requests from friends and relatives to borrow mine.

It isnt so much a matter of trust as it is they generally lack the RV and mechanical experiance to the point where I feel comfortable doing so

Also, the fact that I dont have full coverage


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Re: [GMCnet] Loaning out GMC [message #282810 is a reply to message #282809] Wed, 22 July 2015 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What's the old saying, "Neither a borrower or lender be, for the loan oft loses the principal AND the friend!"

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> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 11:09:24 -0600
> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
> From: dtyler11@tampabay.rr.com
> Subject: [GMCnet] Loaning out GMC
>
> Curious if anyone loans or would consider loaning out their GMC...
> I have turned down several requests from friends and relatives to borrow mine.
>
> It isnt so much a matter of trust as it is they generally lack the RV and mechanical experiance to the point where I feel comfortable doing so
>
> Also, the fact that I dont have full coverage
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Re: Loaning out GMC [message #282812 is a reply to message #282809] Wed, 22 July 2015 12:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chris Tyler wrote on Wed, 22 July 2015 10:09
Curious if anyone loans or would consider loaning out their GMC...
I have turned down several requests from friends and relatives to borrow mine.

It isnt so much a matter of trust as it is they generally lack the RV and mechanical experiance to the point where I feel comfortable doing so

Also, the fact that I dont have full coverage



I feel EXACTLY the same as you do. The only people I would even consider lending my GMC to are my two sons, the younger of which is almost a clone of me, but both understand the GMC pretty well.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] Loaning out GMC [message #282813 is a reply to message #282810] Wed, 22 July 2015 12:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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Generally i don't agree with anything you say Chris, but in this case I
fully endorse your mindset.
It's not running into a car that will happen, its the breaking off of a
switch or putting wear on the transmission by not downshifting or...you get
my drift...and me yours!

No, don't lend it to anyone including your Mother...You've been having a
bit of a problem with (fill in blank here) and you wouldn't want it to fail
and ruin their vacation !

Mike in NS

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 2:15 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald
wrote:

> What's the old saying, "Neither a borrower or lender be, for the loan oft
> loses the principal AND the friend!"
>
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> ~ ~ ~ Oklahoma City, OK ~ ~ ~
> ~~ ~ ~ "The Money Pit" ~ ~ ~~
> ~ ~ ~ ~ TZE166V101966 ~ ~ ~ ~
> ~ ~ ~ '76 ex-Palm Beach ~ ~ ~
> ~~ k2gkk + hotmail dot com ~~
> ~ www.gmcmhphotos.com/okclb ~
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>> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 11:09:24 -0600
>> To: gmclist@list.gmcnet.org
>> From: dtyler11@tampabay.rr.com
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Loaning out GMC
>>
>> Curious if anyone loans or would consider loaning out their GMC...
>> I have turned down several requests from friends and relatives to borrow
> mine.
>>
>> It isnt so much a matter of trust as it is they generally lack the RV
> and mechanical experiance to the point where I feel comfortable doing so
>>
>> Also, the fact that I dont have full coverage
>> --
>> 76 Glenbrook
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Re: Loaning out GMC [message #282815 is a reply to message #282809] Wed, 22 July 2015 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would if I trusted them. I've always been different in this regard...I've always loaned out my motorcycles too when people thought I was crazy to let anyone touch my things. To me they are just tools. I don't have to worry on the insurance side so if anything bad happens...that's what insurance is for.

that all said, I can't fathom (not has it happened) that anyone but a CLOSE friend or family member would ask. I guess if a coworker did I would say no. My parents...siblings...best friends...yeah...I would...and likely will.

Oh...and unless it was a world case emergency, I wouldn't ask to borrow anyone's vehicle Smile


75 Glenbrook

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Re: Loaning out GMC [message #282819 is a reply to message #282809] Wed, 22 July 2015 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can think of a couple of folks to whom I would lend. They're family, or been around so dam' long they're 'family'. The ethos I grew up with they share - he who borrows returns in the same or better condition... the truck comes back full of gas. Blow a tire, it comes back with a new one. Stack it up, it is replaced. I offered to give the SOB to one of them to put on his 600 acres over home (Alabama), he's a pretty good shade tree mechanic. He crawled under, looked it over, cranked it, "No, thanks."

--johnny


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Re: Loaning out GMC [message #282823 is a reply to message #282809] Wed, 22 July 2015 13:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wouldn't. There are some people who I would trust with the GMC, but I wouldn't trust my GMC not to ruin there intentions. It hardly breaks down, it's generally not hard to fix, but as Matt just showed, even the most diligent among us run into problems that can ruin a trip. If someone borrowed my GMC and their trip got ruined by a 40 year old machine, they probably wouldn't be as good natured about it as my family will be. For us it's part and parcel of owning an antique motorhome. Odds are whoever asked to borrow it really just wanted an rv, not an antique...

Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
Re: Loaning out GMC [message #282828 is a reply to message #282809] Wed, 22 July 2015 13:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Heck, Mike, I thought I agreed with most of what you both wrote. I'm like Johnny, there are a few people who I would consider lending the motorhome to. They have the ethic of returning in better shape than before. But not until I thought all was working and reasonably robust. What scares me is that they will cut corners and scrape off the Zip Dee, which looks much the best investment I have. That and keep their foot in it until the exhaust valves burn.

Best,

Carey


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Re: [GMCnet] Loaning out GMC [message #282836 is a reply to message #282810] Wed, 22 July 2015 14:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Amen, Mac.


> On Jul 22, 2015, at 1:15 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald wrote:
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> "Neither a borrower or lender be, for the loan oft loses the principal AND the friend!"

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Re: [GMCnet] Loaning out GMC [message #282840 is a reply to message #282809] Wed, 22 July 2015 14:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chris,

It would depend on who it is. One must take into consideration that you're loaning them a 40 plus year old vehicle and if something
goes wrong with it that is NOT their fault you are going to be persona non grata in their eyes!

On occasion I have been asked to lend someone a car, if it is someone I trust I will say OK followed by; "you break it you bought
it." If it is someone that I would not trust I've said; "sure, can I borrow your wife (girlfriend)?"

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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Tyler

Curious if anyone loans or would consider loaning out their GMC...
I have turned down several requests from friends and relatives to borrow mine.

It isnt so much a matter of trust as it is they generally lack the RV and mechanical experiance to the point where I feel
comfortable doing so

Also, the fact that I dont have full coverage
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Re: [GMCnet] Loaning out GMC [message #282842 is a reply to message #282809] Wed, 22 July 2015 14:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've been thinking about this as well.

During the time I am outside the country, my friend, where the GMC is
staying, is free to use it as he likes. He is probably way better in
getting things mechanically sound than I will ever be.

For others, I haven't yet decided. I will probably give it to them with
a long talk about what can fail, and would expect them to pay a maximum
amount of repairs out of the pocket, compared to whatever a regular RV
would cost. Plus of course, the regular maintenance for the amount of
driving they do, things like oil change at what not. But I don't know
yet, and will cross the bridge when I come to it.

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Re: [GMCnet] Loaning out GMC [message #282843 is a reply to message #282842] Wed, 22 July 2015 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think the going rate is5,000 a week at burning mam

On Wednesday, July 22, 2015, Peer Oliver Schmidt GMC
wrote:

> I've been thinking about this as well.
>
> During the time I am outside the country, my friend, where the GMC is
> staying, is free to use it as he likes. He is probably way better in
> getting things mechanically sound than I will ever be.
>
> For others, I haven't yet decided. I will probably give it to them with
> a long talk about what can fail, and would expect them to pay a maximum
> amount of repairs out of the pocket, compared to whatever a regular RV
> would cost. Plus of course, the regular maintenance for the amount of
> driving they do, things like oil change at what not. But I don't know
> yet, and will cross the bridge when I come to it.
>
> --
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Re: Loaning out GMC [message #282845 is a reply to message #282809] Wed, 22 July 2015 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chris Tyler wrote on Wed, 22 July 2015 12:09
Curious if anyone loans or would consider loaning out their GMC...
I have turned down several requests from friends and relatives to borrow mine.

It isnt so much a matter of trust as it is they generally lack the RV and mechanical experiance to the point where I feel comfortable doing so

Also, the fact that I dont have full coverage
Rednecks know there are some things you don't loan out to anybody: Your pickup, your chainsaw, and your wife.

You can add GMC motorhome to the list or not. Personal call.
Re: Loaning out GMC [message #282855 is a reply to message #282812] Wed, 22 July 2015 16:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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After thinking about this a little more, the reasons I would not lend my GMC out to anybody but (maybe) my sons, are:

1. It is a much more complicated vehicle than most others on the road
a. it is front wheel drive
b. it has air suspension
c. It has it's own electrical, water, and sewer utilities
2. It is unique enough that it would be VERY hard to replace
3. It is 40 years old and therefore might possibly not be entirely reliable. I am willing to take the risk , I'm not sure I would want to expose others to that.
4. It is old and unique enough that not just any roadside repair shop can fix it
%. I have a LOT of time and money into it and would not want to put that at risk

I'm sure there are more


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: Loaning out GMC [message #282857 is a reply to message #282809] Wed, 22 July 2015 16:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Would insurance cover an accident if it was loaned out? They probably wouldn't cover it if it was rented. Some won't cover a car if you are car pooling (according to the Allstate commercial)

Jerrod Winter
1977 Palm Beach
Green Jelly Bean
Twin Cities, Minnesota
Re: Loaning out GMC [message #282870 is a reply to message #282809] Wed, 22 July 2015 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My insurance covered the named insured (me) and licensed drivers who have my permission and do not reside in my household. However, I only carry liability coverage. I self-insure for loss of the coach.

--johnny


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Re: Loaning out GMC [message #282902 is a reply to message #282870] Wed, 22 July 2015 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I drive other people's vehicles all the time...they ask me to, sometimes even asking me to use them for a few days to keep them running and batteries charged while they are away on vacation or business. But the other way around, I don't loan ANY of my vehicles out to ANYBODY, as stuff has come back broken both times I relented. And I had to fix them. The only one that gets to drive any of my vehicles is my wife, she half owns them anyway. NOBODY but me drives the GMC past the end of the driveway, as it scares the hell out of them on the highway. I do need to find a driver I trust to drive it at 60 MPH while I make some adjustments, but that scares the hell out of ME Laughing

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: Loaning out GMC [message #282905 is a reply to message #282902] Thu, 23 July 2015 01:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would never loan out mine except to family.,now with that being said, I consider my very best friends(only about 4) to be in the family category. My cars to me are a love affair. And even my family won't have that same connection that I have with my autos. I would worry at nights knowing my GMC was out without me to care for it..it's a sickness!!

Scott Nutter 1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI Houston, Texas
Re: [GMCnet] Loaning out GMC [message #282918 is a reply to message #282809] Thu, 23 July 2015 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Bdub,

What the hell is this?

Regards,
Rob M.

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.The vehicle does not have bathroom, but has fans installed for hot weather
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Re: Loaning out GMC [message #282921 is a reply to message #282809] Thu, 23 July 2015 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Rob, looking at previous posts by this user, I suspect that he has been unwillingly hijacked. Needs to run complete virus scan and run for malware.
Use the report to moderator function to report questionable posts. I did.
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