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Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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In a atypical case of "it ain't broke, let's fix it till it is". I decided to upgrade my absolutely trouble free Onan with the Gary Bovee Pertronix Ignition system. After following the instructions to a tee, I buttoned it up and it wouldn't start. Not sure what I did wrong, but evidently something. Anyway, I had the brilliant idea of switching the + and - leads on the coil., this time, no start, AND smoke from the back of the control board. That CAN'T be good. I removed the board to find a trace burned. Soldered in a piece of wire, re-installed the board, and the Onan runs again, on the points, Pertronix disconnected.

THEN, I plugged the power cord into the power outlet in the elec compartment, and found that I had NO 110 volt power in the coach. Checked voltage between terminals 8 to 11 on the board, no voltage. Please tell me there is an easy fix for this. At this point I have given up on the Pertronix and just want to get power back out of the generator for our trip at the end of the week.

HELP!!!


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: Onan - No 110 [message #282510 is a reply to message #282508] Sun, 19 July 2015 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl S. wrote on Sun, 19 July 2015 15:35
In a atypical case of "it ain't broke, let's fix it till it is". I decided to upgrade my absolutely trouble free Onan with the Gary Bovee Pertronix Ignition system. After following the instructions to a tee, I buttoned it up and it wouldn't start. Not sure what I did wrong, but evidently something. Anyway, I had the brilliant idea of switching the + and - leads on the coil., this time, no start, AND smoke from the back of the control board. That CAN'T be good. I removed the board to find a trace burned. Soldered in a piece of wire, re-installed the board, and the Onan runs again, on the points, Pertronix disconnected.

THEN, I plugged the power cord into the power outlet in the elec compartment, and found that I had NO 110 volt power in the coach. Checked voltage between terminals 8 to 11 on the board, no voltage. Please tell me there is an easy fix for this. At this point I have given up on the Pertronix and just want to get power back out of the generator for our trip at the end of the week.

HELP!!!



Oh, I checked the fuse on the board, it is OK. The circuit breaker is not tripped. There was power a month ago when I fired it up and ran the AC and Water heater for 45 minutes to 'exercise' it. It seems to me there was something mentioned on here about this very problem but I couldn't find it in the search function.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: Onan - No 110 [message #282512 is a reply to message #282508] Sun, 19 July 2015 17:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh no. Only issue i had with my pertronix was installing the magnet upside down, and it was clear there was a problem as i rotated it and watched my ohm meter.

Just my memory here and not an expert. But thought no 110v on a running onan, to replace the bridge rectifier. Cheap part.

2nd would be to verify a connection behind the onan did not come loose from openig and closing.


Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
Re: [GMCnet] Onan - No 110 [message #282513 is a reply to message #282508] Sun, 19 July 2015 17:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The board or the wire switch did not cause you to lose 120.
There is a trick to the maget that you must follow the polarity.
Gary will be glad to go over with you.

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:

> In a atypical case of "it ain't broke, let's fix it till it is". I decided
> to upgrade my absolutely trouble free Onan with the Gary Bovee Pertronix
> Ignition system. After following the instructions to a tee, I buttoned it
> up and it wouldn't start. Not sure what I did wrong, but evidently
> something. Anyway, I had the brilliant idea of switching the + and -
> leads on the coil., this time, no start, AND smoke from the back of the
> control
> board. That CAN'T be good. I removed the board to find a trace burned.
> Soldered in a piece of wire, re-installed the board, and the Onan runs
> again, on the points, Pertronix disconnected.
>
> THEN, I plugged the power cord into the power outlet in the elec
> compartment, and found that I had NO 110 volt power in the coach. Checked
> voltage
> between terminals 8 to 11 on the board, no voltage. Please tell me there
> is an easy fix for this. At this point I have given up on the Pertronix and
> just want to get power back out of the generator for our trip at the end
> of the week.
>
> HELP!!!
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
>
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Re: Onan - No 110 [message #282515 is a reply to message #282512] Sun, 19 July 2015 18:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lqqkatjon wrote on Sun, 19 July 2015 17:55
Oh no. Only issue i had with my pertronix was installing the magnet upside down, and it was clear there was a problem as i rotated it and watched my ohm meter.

Just my memory here and not an expert. But thought no 110v on a running onan, to replace the bridge rectifier. Cheap part.

2nd would be to verify a connection behind the onan did not come loose from openig and closing.
Or the Onan 50A circuit breaker.
Re: Onan - No 110 [message #282518 is a reply to message #282512] Sun, 19 July 2015 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lqqkatjon wrote on Sun, 19 July 2015 15:55
Oh no. Only issue i had with my pertronix was installing the magnet upside down, and it was clear there was a problem as i rotated it and watched my ohm meter.

Just my memory here and not an expert. But thought no 110v on a running onan, to replace the bridge rectifier. Cheap part.

2nd would be to verify a connection behind the onan did not come loose from openig and closing.



Thanks Jon. I had a spare Bridge Rectifier out of another generator and I switched it out quick. I now have both AC units running off of the generator with a nice steady 120 volts. (Still on the points system).


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] Onan - No 110 [message #282521 is a reply to message #282513] Sun, 19 July 2015 18:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jimk wrote on Sun, 19 July 2015 15:51
The board or the wire switch did not cause you to lose 120.
There is a trick to the maget that you must follow the polarity.
Gary will be glad to go over with you.

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:

> In a atypical case of "it ain't broke, let's fix it till it is". I decided
> to upgrade my absolutely trouble free Onan with the Gary Bovee Pertronix
> Ignition system. After following the instructions to a tee, I buttoned it
> up and it wouldn't start. Not sure what I did wrong, but evidently
> something. Anyway, I had the brilliant idea of switching the + and -
> leads on the coil., this time, no start, AND smoke from the back of the
> control
> board. That CAN'T be good. I removed the board to find a trace burned.
> Soldered in a piece of wire, re-installed the board, and the Onan runs
> again, on the points, Pertronix disconnected.
>
> THEN, I plugged the power cord into the power outlet in the elec
> compartment, and found that I had NO 110 volt power in the coach. Checked
> voltage
> between terminals 8 to 11 on the board, no voltage. Please tell me there
> is an easy fix for this. At this point I have given up on the Pertronix and
> just want to get power back out of the generator for our trip at the end
> of the week.
>
> HELP!!!
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
>
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Jim, I guess I'll have to touch base with Gary sometime. For now I'm DONE with it. Maybe I will have a renewed interest when I get home from the trip in a few weeks.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: Onan - No 110 [message #282531 is a reply to message #282508] Sun, 19 July 2015 19:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Reversing the polarity is the worse thing for electronic circuits... it lets out the "magic smoke". You pertonix is likely toast now.

There is no connection between the engine electrics and the generator, just Murphy's law likely caused the failure of the bridge rectifier.

The Pertonix is a great upgrade, I did mine this spring. I used it for the first time to run the AC while Paula went for groceries. I could not tell the Onan was running it was so smooth... till I went to the back of the coach.

Correct wiring, magnet polarity and magnet clearance are all important with the Pertronix.


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Re: Onan - No 110 [message #282537 is a reply to message #282531] Sun, 19 July 2015 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RF_Burns wrote on Sun, 19 July 2015 17:27
Reversing the polarity is the worse thing for electronic circuits... it lets out the "magic smoke". You pertonix is likely toast now.

There is no connection between the engine electrics and the generator, just Murphy's law likely caused the failure of the bridge rectifier.

The Pertonix is a great upgrade, I did mine this spring. I used it for the first time to run the AC while Paula went for groceries. I could not tell the Onan was running it was so smooth... till I went to the back of the coach.

Correct wiring, magnet polarity and magnet clearance are all important with the Pertronix.



I think the Pertronix module was bad to begin with. I followed the instructions to the letter, had the magnet 'white side up, had .020 clearance between the module and the magnet, set the timing according to the instructions, double and triple checked all those items, wired it correctly (at first) and when I did reverse the polarity, the trace burned almost immediately, effectively acting as a fuse. I doubt that the module would have been damaged from that even if it was any good frrom the beginning. It's a frustratingly large amount of work to open up the front of the Onan multiple times to do this installation, especially when it doesn't work at the end. Maybe I'm just a dummy and totally didn't understand the procedure, but I have successfully done a lot of way more complicated repairs than this one plenty of times in the past.


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Re: Onan - No 110 [message #282545 is a reply to message #282508] Sun, 19 July 2015 20:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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when i installed mine and had things right. (I thought the white on the magnet was a sticker and i scraed it off. And installed the magnet upside down. )

But when it was right, my multi meter showed the pertronix closing very clearly and accurately when i spun the flywheel. Every time around, at the exact place it would drop to zero volts. And timing mark was right on in the hole.

There was no question. So if you are turnkng the flywheel around and it is not zeroing out the volts when it is hooked like the instructions show with the 9 volt batter, the unit is bad, The magnet is installed in our out too far, or too much gap. Or something else.

So alot of guessing in what could be wrong. But when it is right, it is right.

Glad you have 110v again. Hopefully your heart rate and blood pressure are back to normal. That would be a scary frustrating feeling that you might have toasted a working device.


Jon Roche 75 palm beach EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now. St. Cloud, MN http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
Re: Onan - No 110 [message #282546 is a reply to message #282545] Sun, 19 July 2015 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, thanks again Jon. The module triggered the voltage drop with the 9v battery just like it should have. The magnet was installed with the white marking up, right in the middle of the mark on module, the clearance was set to the thickness of the doubled over business card, per instructions. Can't explain what went wrong, but no start with the Pertronix hooked up, and immediate start with the points hooked up. Yes, I was very frustrated and apologize for the rant and any perceived sleight Against Gary. I must have done something wrong. I'm not great at electrical stuff, but this was mostly mechanical. I'm sure I'll get over it and try to get to the bottom of the problem sooner or later but, for now I'm just happy to be back to where I was before attempting the "upgrade".

Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] Onan - No 110 [message #282557 is a reply to message #282545] Sun, 19 July 2015 21:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh my. A list of bad gys

On Sunday, July 19, 2015, Jon Roche wrote:

> when i installed mine and had things right. (I thought the white on the
> magnet was a sticker and i scraed it off. And installed the magnet upside
> down. )
>
> But when it was right, my multi meter showed the pertronix closing very
> clearly and accurately when i spun the flywheel. Every time around, at the
> exact place it would drop to zero volts. And timing mark was right on in
> the hole.
>
> There was no question. So if you are turnkng the flywheel around and it
> is not zeroing out the volts when it is hooked like the instructions show
> with the 9 volt batter, the unit is bad, The magnet is installed in our
> out too far, or too much gap. Or something else.
>
> So alot of guessing in what could be wrong. But when it is right, it is
> right.
>
> Glad you have 110v again. Hopefully your heart rate and blood pressure
> are back to normal. That would be a scary frustrating feeling that you
> might
> have toasted a working device.
> --
> Jon Roche
> 75 palm beach
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan - No 110 [message #282571 is a reply to message #282546] Mon, 20 July 2015 01:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Carl,

Email me your phone so I can call you and get your Onan running with the Pertronix.

Send your email to gary.bovee@gmcidiotsguide.com. Be sure to tell me when is a good time to call you.

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> On Jul 19, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
>
> Yeah, thanks again Jon. The module triggered the voltage drop with the 9v battery just like it should have. The magnet was installed with the white
> marking up, right in the middle of the mark on module, the clearance was set to the thickness of the doubled over business card, per instructions.
> Can't explain what went wrong, but no start with the Pertronix hooked up, and immediate start with the points hooked up. Yes, I was very frustrated
> and apologize for the rant and any perceived sleight Against Gary. I must have done something wrong. I'm not great at electrical stuff, but this was
> mostly mechanical. I'm sure I'll get over it and try to get to the bottom of the problem sooner or later but, for now I'm just happy to be back to
> where I was before attempting the "upgrade".
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Onan - No 110 [message #282584 is a reply to message #282571] Mon, 20 July 2015 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary Bovee wrote on Sun, 19 July 2015 23:01
Carl,

Email me your phone so I can call you and get your Onan running with the Pertronix.

Send your email to gary.bovee@gmcidiotsguide.com. Be sure to tell me when is a good time to call you.

Gary Bovee
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> On Jul 19, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
>
> Yeah, thanks again Jon. The module triggered the voltage drop with the 9v battery just like it should have. The magnet was installed with the white
> marking up, right in the middle of the mark on module, the clearance was set to the thickness of the doubled over business card, per instructions.
> Can't explain what went wrong, but no start with the Pertronix hooked up, and immediate start with the points hooked up. Yes, I was very frustrated
> and apologize for the rant and any perceived sleight Against Gary. I must have done something wrong. I'm not great at electrical stuff, but this was
> mostly mechanical. I'm sure I'll get over it and try to get to the bottom of the problem sooner or later but, for now I'm just happy to be back to
> where I was before attempting the "upgrade".
> --
> Carl Stouffer
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
>
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Done. Hope you can help.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] Onan - No 110 [message #282585 is a reply to message #282557] Mon, 20 July 2015 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mr ERFisher wrote on Sun, 19 July 2015 19:39
Oh my. A list of bad gys

On Sunday, July 19, 2015, Jon Roche wrote:

> when i installed mine and had things right. (I thought the white on the
> magnet was a sticker and i scraed it off. And installed the magnet upside
> down. )
>
> But when it was right, my multi meter showed the pertronix closing very
> clearly and accurately when i spun the flywheel. Every time around, at the
> exact place it would drop to zero volts. And timing mark was right on in
> the hole.
>
> There was no question. So if you are turnkng the flywheel around and it
> is not zeroing out the volts when it is hooked like the instructions show
> with the 9 volt batter, the unit is bad, The magnet is installed in our
> out too far, or too much gap. Or something else.
>
> So alot of guessing in what could be wrong. But when it is right, it is
> right.
>
> Glad you have 110v again. Hopefully your heart rate and blood pressure
> are back to normal. That would be a scary frustrating feeling that you
> might
> have toasted a working device.
> --
> Jon Roche
> 75 palm beach
> St. Cloud, MN
> http://lqqkatjon.blogspot.com/
>
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"Bad gys"???????????


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Re: Onan - No 110 [message #282587 is a reply to message #282508] Mon, 20 July 2015 09:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gary will help. He was a huge help to me and Jeff Sirum when we did mine in FL back in May. Got our "installer error" straightened out and didn't get frustrated at all with our beginner's brain. I think he made a believer out of Jeff as well and I'm pleased with how the Onan is running, although less so with the danged oil leaks!

Thanks,
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jknezek wrote on Mon, 20 July 2015 07:26
Gary will help. He was a huge help to me and Jeff Sirum when we did mine in FL back in May. Got our "installer error" straightened out and didn't get frustrated at all with our beginner's brain. I think he made a believer out of Jeff as well and I'm pleased with how the Onan is running, although less so with the danged oil leaks!


Thanks for the encouragement, Jeremy. I hope to talk to Gary today and get straightened out on what I may have done wrong. Unless it proves to be an easy fix, I will probably leave well enough alone until after our week long trip that we are leaving on Saturday. We will be driving across the Arizona and New Mexico deserts and will almost certainly need the roof AC en route.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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Carl S. wrote on Mon, 20 July 2015 11:08
jknezek wrote on Mon, 20 July 2015 07:26
Gary will help. He was a huge help to me and Jeff Sirum when we did mine in FL back in May. Got our "installer error" straightened out and didn't get frustrated at all with our beginner's brain. I think he made a believer out of Jeff as well and I'm pleased with how the Onan is running, although less so with the danged oil leaks!


Thanks for the encouragement, Jeremy. I hope to talk to Gary today and get straightened out on what I may have done wrong. Unless it proves to be an easy fix, I will probably leave well enough alone until after our week long trip that we are leaving on Saturday. We will be driving across the Arizona and New Mexico deserts and will almost certainly need the roof AC en route.



I hear you. We almost did the same thing with mine coming home from a FL trip when AC was necessary. But Gary pointed out our simple error in no time. It's a simple system, so there are only a couple things that could be off. I forget exactly what we did, but it made perfect sense when we did it and was exactly the wrong thing to do. As soon as Gary actually got us to tell him what we did, he told us how to fix it. 5 minutes later the Onan was purring like a kitten. Sadly it also slobbers oil like a St. Bernard, but that's not Gary's problem! Good luck, but I'm betting you'll have a relatively quick fix once Gary knows how you have done the install.


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Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
Re: Onan - No 110 [message #282592 is a reply to message #282591] Mon, 20 July 2015 10:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jknezek wrote on Mon, 20 July 2015 08:18
Carl S. wrote on Mon, 20 July 2015 11:08
jknezek wrote on Mon, 20 July 2015 07:26
Gary will help. He was a huge help to me and Jeff Sirum when we did mine in FL back in May. Got our "installer error" straightened out and didn't get frustrated at all with our beginner's brain. I think he made a believer out of Jeff as well and I'm pleased with how the Onan is running, although less so with the danged oil leaks!


Thanks for the encouragement, Jeremy. I hope to talk to Gary today and get straightened out on what I may have done wrong. Unless it proves to be an easy fix, I will probably leave well enough alone until after our week long trip that we are leaving on Saturday. We will be driving across the Arizona and New Mexico deserts and will almost certainly need the roof AC en route.



I hear you. We almost did the same thing with mine coming home from a FL trip when AC was necessary. But Gary pointed out our simple error in no time. It's a simple system, so there are only a couple things that could be off. I forget exactly what we did, but it made perfect sense when we did it and was exactly the wrong thing to do. As soon as Gary actually got us to tell him what we did, he told us how to fix it. 5 minutes later the Onan was purring like a kitten. Sadly it also slobbers oil like a St. Bernard, but that's not Gary's problem! Good luck, but I'm betting you'll have a relatively quick fix once Gary knows how you have done the install.


Okay, thanks again Jeremy.

My Onan had a lot of oil leaks at first too. I managed to get it down to a few drips, only when it's hot. I removed the oil pan and cleaned and reused the gasket, changed out the front crankshaft seal, changed the oil filter housing gaskets (there are two of them, one on either side of the engine mount plate) and generally tightened up bolts here and there. I also replaced all the top end gaskets and adjusted the valves. That took care of MOST of the leaks, but it seems to be kind of like my old Jeep, it just likes to mark it's territory. It CAN be done.


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Re: Onan - No 110 [message #282595 is a reply to message #282592] Mon, 20 July 2015 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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[quote title=Carl S. wrote on Mon, 20 July 2015 11:25][quote title=jknezek wrote on Mon, 20 July 2015 08:18][quote and generally tightened up bolts here and there. I also replaced all the top end gaskets and adjusted the valves. That took care of MOST of the leaks, but it seems to be kind of like my old Jeep, it just likes to mark it's territory. It CAN be done.
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I think my problem is the two bits in bold! I just need to find the time to get out and work on it. I'd rather use it, an put the oil in, then work on it in the driveway, so maybe this winter. Good luck with yours.


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Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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