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[GMCnet] Penguin installation [message #281883] Sat, 11 July 2015 18:49 Go to next message
mjbourgon is currently offline  mjbourgon   United States
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Good afternoon from a wet New Mexico
Installing two new domestic penguin air conditioners. Front one went on with no problems at all.
It appears the rear one is going to be challenge. Any one run into this problem and what was the best way to solve this. I think if you have tried this unit, it hangs over the back.
Thanks
Marcel

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Re: [GMCnet] Penguin installation [message #281896 is a reply to message #281883] Sat, 11 July 2015 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Turn it around; doesn't matter which way it faces as long as you don't try to run it going down the road.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Marcel Bourgon
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 9:49 AM
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Subject: [GMCnet] Penguin installation

Good afternoon from a wet New Mexico
Installing two new domestic penguin air conditioners. Front one went on with no problems at all.
It appears the rear one is going to be challenge. Any one run into this problem and what was the best way to solve this. I think
if you have tried this unit, it hangs over the back.
Thanks
Marcel

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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Penguin installation [message #281904 is a reply to message #281896] Sat, 11 July 2015 21:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mjbourgon is currently offline  mjbourgon   United States
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Thanks for suggestion, Jim Bounds gave me the same idea. I just like
the look of all things as they should be.
Thanks
Marcel

On 7/11/2015 7:05 PM, Robert Mueller wrote:
> Turn it around; doesn't matter which way it faces as long as you don't try to run it going down the road.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Marcel Bourgon
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 9:49 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Penguin installation
>
> Good afternoon from a wet New Mexico
> Installing two new domestic penguin air conditioners. Front one went on with no problems at all.
> It appears the rear one is going to be challenge. Any one run into this problem and what was the best way to solve this. I think
> if you have tried this unit, it hangs over the back.
> Thanks
> Marcel
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Re: [GMCnet] Penguin installation [message #281907 is a reply to message #281904] Sat, 11 July 2015 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carl S. is currently offline  Carl S.   United States
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Marcel,

I have actually seen a couple of coaches with the rear unit mounted 'backwards'. It looks pretty good. Kind of gives it a more streamlined, symmetrical look.


Carl Stouffer '75 ex Palm Beach Tucson, AZ. Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
Re: [GMCnet] Penguin installation [message #281916 is a reply to message #281907] Sun, 12 July 2015 07:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mjbourgon is currently offline  mjbourgon   United States
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Nice try Carl
Yesterday I decided to relocate the unit about 7 1/2 inches forward and
about two inches to the left to clear the bathroom module. I used an
aluminum sheet about a good 1/16" thick, made a template and will secure
her down in the morning. The large aluminum sheet is fastened with 3/16
pop rivets and gray sealing tape to room and new penguin will be a bit
more forward inside and should look fine. A bit of a project but
overall I think I should be happy with final look. Thanks to all for
comments and suggestions. I am working on a 1975 Glenbrook complete gut
out and refurbishment, rebuild 455, Manny tranny, new fantastic fan and
two new penguins, new brakes and all new windows. Will be redoing the
air bags. This forum, Jim Bounds, and Jim Kanomata also have been very
forthcoming with ideas.
This has become a great project and plenty of good fellowship with other
GMCers in the area
Marcel in a Wet Santa Teresa, New Mexico
On 7/11/2015 10:11 PM, Carl Stouffer wrote:
> Marcel,
>
> I have actually seen a couple of coaches with the rear unit mounted 'backwards'. It looks pretty good. Kind of gives it a more streamlined,
> symmetrical look.

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Re: [GMCnet] Penguin installation [message #281965 is a reply to message #281883] Sun, 12 July 2015 21:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   United States
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Yep, flip it around. I did that with Carrier Low Profiles. The original one did hang over a bit, and the PO cut the railing to accommodate that.

Any top fan unit will probably cool better going backwards down the road...

Air goes in the coil and out the top.

Top fan units cool better. Carrier, Coleman Mach...


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Re: [GMCnet] Penguin installation [message #281971 is a reply to message #281896] Sun, 12 July 2015 22:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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""Turn it around; doesn't matter which way it faces as long as you don't try to run it going down the road.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426""

Rob--what is that based on?


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Re: [GMCnet] Penguin installation [message #281977 is a reply to message #281971] Mon, 13 July 2015 00:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We find that the low profile units tend to be longer, this is what is
creating the problem for most of us.
We sell Colman, Dometic, and Atwood
I prefer the low profile unit as it creates less drag.

On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Bob de Kruyff wrote:

> ""Turn it around; doesn't matter which way it faces as long as you don't
> try to run it going down the road.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426""
>
> Rob--what is that based on?
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] Penguin installation [message #281983 is a reply to message #281965] Mon, 13 July 2015 07:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mjbourgon is currently offline  mjbourgon   United States
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Thanks Chris
I did exactly that. She faces forward now. I had to move it 7 1/2
forward to clear running lights and about 2" inches to the left so
inside control should fit. A bit tight but also with a little work
should work just fine.
I used and aluminum flange under the whole unit anchored and sealed it
to roof with gray tape and fastened it down with large pop rivets.
Should work fine. I am a general contractor with a full shop and the
work was pretty easy. Thanks to all for the input and good advise
Marcel in a drying up New Mexico

On 7/12/2015 8:56 PM, Chris Choffat wrote:
> Yep, flip it around. I did that with Carrier Low Profiles. The original one did hang over a bit, and the PO cut the railing to accommodate that.

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Re: [GMCnet] Penguin installation [message #281985 is a reply to message #281971] Mon, 13 July 2015 07:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Bob,

The Penguin the evaporator is at the back of the unit and air blows out towards the rear of the vehicle. If you turn it around and
head down the road it forces air into the evaporator:

Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/pey6lbj

Full URL:

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=dometic+penguin+air+conditioner+photos&espv=2&biw=1024&bih=681&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&a mp;sa=X&ei
=ALKjVeTtBIHamgWWlqbYAw&ved=0CBwQsAQ#imgrc=2eEpK4s-22ChlM%3A

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

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From: Bob de Kruyff

"Turn it around; doesn't matter which way it faces as long as you don't try to run it going down the road.

Rob--what is that based on?
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Re: [GMCnet] Penguin installation [message #282024 is a reply to message #281971] Mon, 13 July 2015 16:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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OOPS!

DAMN!

John Sharpe reminded me that it's the CONDENSER that's at the back of the roof unit NOT the EVAPORATOR!

I CONSTANTLY get those two mixed up! Must be a serial mental fart!

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Mueller

Bob,

The Penguin the evaporator is at the back of the unit and air blows out towards the rear of the vehicle. If you turn it around and
head down the road it forces air into the evaporator:

Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/pey6lbj

Full URL:

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=dometic+penguin+air+conditioner+photos&espv=2&biw=1024&bih=681&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&a mp;sa=X&ei
=ALKjVeTtBIHamgWWlqbYAw&ved=0CBwQsAQ#imgrc=2eEpK4s-22ChlM%3A

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob de Kruyff

"Turn it around; doesn't matter which way it faces as long as you don't try to run it going down the road.

Rob--what is that based on?
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Re: [GMCnet] Penguin installation [message #282026 is a reply to message #281883] Mon, 13 July 2015 17:11 Go to previous message
John  Sharpe is currently offline  John Sharpe   United States
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On the Carrier low profile and most others the inside air is drawn in from the front and exits the rear. Diverting it foward reduces air flow. So in the rear having the unit installed what some say is "backwards" actually causes improved cooling of the cabin. On the Carrier low profiles it improves air flow through the condenser as well while traveling, because condenser air moves from the front of the coach through the condenser and out the top of the unit.

John Sharpe
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