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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering damper [message #281658 is a reply to message #281654] |
Tue, 07 July 2015 13:05   |
Keith V
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Mine is also bad.
Does it really do anything? Or just remove even more road feel?
If it makes the coach drive better I'm interested
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering damper [message #281665 is a reply to message #281659] |
Tue, 07 July 2015 14:45 |
powerjon
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Do any of you have the GMCMI Parts Interchange book? If you did you would have a great piece of information in your hands and is worth the price of admission when you join GMCMI.
The Moog part# SSD-55 is the standard replacement and a direct fit.
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/MOO0/SSD55.oap?ck=Search_ssd-55_-1_3436&keyword=ssd-55
And
or
http://tinyurl.com/orsevw5
Dimensions may vary.
JR Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
GMC Eastern States
GMCGL Tech Editor
GMCMHI
78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
> On Jul 7, 2015, at 2:09 PM, william ezzell wrote:
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> I don't know I have only had my unit for about 3-4 months. I hope someone
> can help ☺
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> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Keith V wrote:
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>> Mine is also bad.
>> Does it really do anything? Or just remove even more road feel?
>> If it makes the coach drive better I'm interested
>> --
>> Keith Vasilakes
>> Mounds View. MN
>> 75 ex Royale GMC
>> 69 Vette
>> 29 Dodge
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering damper [message #281673 is a reply to message #281665] |
Tue, 07 July 2015 15:53 |
william ezzell
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Thank John. I just joined GMCMI today and got the flash drive coming.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 3:45 PM, John Wright wrote:
> Do any of you have the GMCMI Parts Interchange book? If you did you would
> have a great piece of information in your hands and is worth the price of
> admission when you join GMCMI.
>
> The Moog part# SSD-55 is the standard replacement and a direct fit.
>
> http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/MOO0/SSD55.oap?ck=Search_ssd-55_-1_3436&keyword=ssd-55
>
> And
> http://www.autozone.com/suspension-steering-tire-and-wheel/steering-damper?filterByKeyWord=14010&fromString=search&isSearchByPartNumber=true
>>
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/orsevw5
> Dimensions may vary.
>
> JR Wright
> GMC Great Laker MHC
> GMC Eastern States
> GMCGL Tech Editor
> GMCMHI
> 78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
> 1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
> Michigan
>
>> On Jul 7, 2015, at 2:09 PM, william ezzell wrote:
>>
>> I don't know I have only had my unit for about 3-4 months. I hope someone
>> can help ☺
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Keith V wrote:
>>
>>> Mine is also bad.
>>> Does it really do anything? Or just remove even more road feel?
>>> If it makes the coach drive better I'm interested
>>> --
>>> Keith Vasilakes
>>> Mounds View. MN
>>> 75 ex Royale GMC
>>> 69 Vette
>>> 29 Dodge
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> *Thanks *
>> *Bill Ezzell *
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering damper [message #281675 is a reply to message #281658] |
Tue, 07 July 2015 16:47 |
bobby5832708
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Keith V wrote on Tue, 07 July 2015 14:05Mine is also bad.
Does it really do anything? Or just remove even more road feel?
If it makes the coach drive better I'm interested
I've had a worn steering damper, a new steering damper, and no steering damper. Personally I prefer no steering damper and have been driving the GMC this way for a few years now. In my opinion a working damper just makes the steering feel 'numb', some people may like it that way but I don't. With no damper there is actually some 'road feel' that comes through the steering wheel -- not much but noticeably more than with.
Bob Heller
2017 Winnebago 29VE
Winter Springs FL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering damper [message #281677 is a reply to message #281673] |
Tue, 07 July 2015 17:39 |
powerjon
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Bill,
GMCMI is a great organization, I have been a member since 1998 and have enjoyed a good number of the conventions. If you find yourself close to a convention I recommend going and have a great time.
J.R. Wright
GMC Great Laker MHC
Newsletter Editor/Publisher
GMC Eastern States
GMCMHI
78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
75 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
> On Jul 7, 2015, at 4:53 PM, william ezzell wrote:
>
> Thank John. I just joined GMCMI today and got the flash drive coming.
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 3:45 PM, John Wright wrote:
>
>> Do any of you have the GMCMI Parts Interchange book? If you did you would
>> have a great piece of information in your hands and is worth the price of
>> admission when you join GMCMI.
>>
>> The Moog part# SSD-55 is the standard replacement and a direct fit.
>>
>> http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/MOO0/SSD55.oap?ck=Search_ssd-55_-1_3436&keyword=ssd-55
>>
>> And
>> > http://www.autozone.com/suspension-steering-tire-and-wheel/steering-damper?filterByKeyWord=14010&fromString=search&isSearchByPartNumber=true
>>>
>> or
>> http://tinyurl.com/orsevw5
>> Dimensions may vary.
>>
>> JR Wright
>> GMC Great Laker MHC
>> GMC Eastern States
>> GMCGL Tech Editor
>> GMCMHI
>> 78 GMC Buskirk 30’ Stretch
>> 1975 GMC Avion (Under Reconstruction)
>> Michigan
>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2015, at 2:09 PM, william ezzell wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't know I have only had my unit for about 3-4 months. I hope someone
>>> can help ☺
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Keith V wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mine is also bad.
>>>> Does it really do anything? Or just remove even more road feel?
>>>> If it makes the coach drive better I'm interested
>>>> --
>>>> Keith Vasilakes
>>>> Mounds View. MN
>>>> 75 ex Royale GMC
>>>> 69 Vette
>>>> 29 Dodge
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> GMCnet mailing list
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>>>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> *Bill Ezzell *
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering damper [message #281700 is a reply to message #281654] |
Wed, 08 July 2015 11:51 |
Carl S.
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william ezzell wrote on Tue, 07 July 2015 10:52Can I buy a steering damper for 1978 Kingsley at a local auto store, or it
a special order from a GMC vendor, if so does anyone know the part number
for the auto store.
Thanks for your help
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I did it the easy way and called Jim K. The one he sent me was a Delco, probably available most anywhere.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering damper [message #281723 is a reply to message #281654] |
Wed, 08 July 2015 20:58 |
JohnL455
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New they give it that new car feel. The road dirt on the chrome rod kills the seals so they don't survive very long. Also had one not leak but fail internally as in unscrewed. It would move about 3/4 " with no resistance, then work. Do you need to disconnect one end to test for feel.
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering damper [message #282059 is a reply to message #281675] |
Mon, 13 July 2015 20:49 |
Bob de Kruyff
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bobby5832708 wrote on Tue, 07 July 2015 15:47Keith V wrote on Tue, 07 July 2015 14:05Mine is also bad.
Does it really do anything? Or just remove even more road feel?
If it makes the coach drive better I'm interested
I've had a worn steering damper, a new steering damper, and no steering damper. Personally I prefer no steering damper and have been driving the GMC this way for a few years now. In my opinion a working damper just makes the steering feel 'numb', some people may like it that way but I don't. With no damper there is actually some 'road feel' that comes through the steering wheel -- not much but noticeably more than with.
It's real purpose is to keep the pitman arm loads down. I would have a working unit in there personally.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering damper [message #282067 is a reply to message #282061] |
Mon, 13 July 2015 23:42 |
Bob de Kruyff
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USAussie wrote on Mon, 13 July 2015 21:19AHA!
So if you hit a pothole that jerks the steering wheel the steering damper absorbs some of the load that the Pittman arm and steering
box would see if it wasn't there?
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob de Kruyff
It's real purpose is to keep the pitman arm loads down. I would have a working unit in there personally.
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Yup--Pitman arm loads are a major factor in all steering system designs.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering damper [message #282078 is a reply to message #282067] |
Tue, 14 July 2015 09:13 |
Keith V
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Bob de Kruyff wrote on Mon, 13 July 2015 23:42
Yup--Pitman arm loads are a major factor in all steering system designs.
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Oh well awesome.
Man I love this forum, so much knowledge!
<runs out and buys a steering dampener>
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
ask me about MicroLevel
Cell, 763-732-3419
My427v8@hotmail.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering damper [message #282116 is a reply to message #282059] |
Tue, 14 July 2015 17:30 |
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Bob de Kruyff wrote on Mon, 13 July 2015 21:49It's real purpose is to keep the pitman arm loads down. I would have a working unit in there personally.
Wow,
Thanks Bob,
I worked on ride and handling, but always thought that was a bandaid fix for a poor wheel-feel.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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