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What about this one - No. 1 [message #279521] Wed, 10 June 2015 13:33 Go to next message
Dominik is currently offline  Dominik   Switzerland
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Uhm, I've spent my whole day looking thru the forum and looking for coaches.
I like the Kingsley interior, and I think I prefer the smaller engine after all.
What do you think about this ?

http://www.bethunesales.com/listings/hux1.html

Thank you all,
Dominik


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Re: What about this one - No. 1 [message #279523 is a reply to message #279521] Wed, 10 June 2015 13:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Looks like a good place to start. I would really look at the frame. Bout ever stuff else can be repaired (fixed implies permanent).




Dominik wrote on Wed, 10 June 2015 14:33
Uhm, I've spent my whole day looking thru the forum and looking for coaches.
I like the Kingsley interior, and I think I prefer the smaller engine after all.
What do you think about this ?

http://www.bethunesales.com/listings/hux1.html

Thank you all,
Dominik



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Re: [GMCnet] What about this one - No. 1 [message #279526 is a reply to message #279521] Wed, 10 June 2015 14:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Asking way too much, I wouldn’t offer more than $3k.

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> On Jun 10, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Dominik Hertle wrote:
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> Uhm, I've spent my whole day looking thru the forum and looking for coaches.
> I like the Kingsley interior, and I think I prefer the smaller engine after all.
> What do you think about this ?
>
> http://www.bethunesales.com/listings/hux1.html
>
> Thank you all,
> Dominik
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Re: What about this one - No. 1 [message #279529 is a reply to message #279523] Wed, 10 June 2015 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dominik is currently offline  Dominik   Switzerland
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Thank you for your opinion - I love that it is not yet fiddled with. Still 8-track, everything else original aswell. There's a guy somewhere in the U.S. who adds AUX-IN connectors to 8-track units.
I might go for that because of the originality.

C Boyd wrote on Wed, 10 June 2015 13:50
Looks like a good place to start. I would really look at the frame. Bout ever stuff else can be repaired (fixed implies permanent).


Jon, I think you are right. 3000 was the exact same number I had in mind. About 15 months ago I saw an exact same coach, (same year, same color AND STRIPE, also Kingsley, but 455cid) in
about the same condition but with wooden floor
going on eBay for $ 1638 if I remember right. Sixteen hundred thirty something... And almost $6k is a bit steep. But I have no idea how I could tell this person, especially since I am here sitting in Switzerland... For $ 3k I would buy it in a heartbeat.

I'm not sure if it is worth asking somebody to go and look at it.
Everybody, are Jon and I the only people who think $ 6k is about double of what it is worth ?
Thank you all,

Dominik


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Re: What about this one - No. 1 [message #279533 is a reply to message #279521] Wed, 10 June 2015 16:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dominik wrote on Wed, 10 June 2015 14:33
Uhm, I've spent my whole day looking thru the forum and looking for coaches.
I like the Kingsley interior, and I think I prefer the smaller engine after all.
What do you think about this ?

http://www.bethunesales.com/listings/hux1.html

Thank you all,
Dominik


Googling the phone #, it appears the guy is a dealer and had it listed in the 2012. I'd be careful of that one, old listing that hasn't sold in at least 3 years.


Mike K. '75 PB Southeast Michigan

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Re: What about this one - No. 1 [message #279536 is a reply to message #279533] Wed, 10 June 2015 16:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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Yeah, ewww, 27000 miles is too low. It's never been driven. That means it's never been maintained.
the exception is if it was owned by a city or someone with dedicated mechanics that did maintenance by the book, which is rare


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Re: [GMCnet] What about this one - No. 1 [message #279559 is a reply to message #279521] Wed, 10 June 2015 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dominik,

If you seriously like it you could contact Ken Frey up in Quakertown to go look at it for you. Avondale is 71 miles from his shop in
Quakertown (about an hour and a half driving time). He might be willing to go look at it for you. You'd be up for a 4-5 hour labor
charge plus mileage; however, you'll get a PROFESSIONAL assessment.

Regards,
Rob M.


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From: Dominik Hertle

Uhm, I've spent my whole day looking thru the forum and looking for coaches.
I like the Kingsley interior, and I think I prefer the smaller engine after all.
What do you think about this ?

http://www.bethunesales.com/listings/hux1.html

Thank you all,
Dominik

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Re: What about this one - No. 1 [message #279599 is a reply to message #279521] Thu, 11 June 2015 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   United States
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27,000 or 127,000?

Only an inspection will tell. If 27,000, there is a lot of life left in that motor.


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Re: What about this one - No. 1 [message #279997 is a reply to message #279599] Tue, 16 June 2015 07:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is there an average life span for these engines ?
Because I would expect a 127'000 mile engine to also have much life left in it.

But everything around the engine that is not made from steel needs to be replaced, no matter of milage, but due to age, e.g.
- Rubber (hoses, fuel lines, caps, gaskets, seals,)
- Plastic (covers, distributor cap and rotor)
and everything I'm missing. So rather have a well maintained 127'000 mile engine than a badly maintained lower milage one.

Or am I missing your point ?

Chr$ wrote on Thu, 11 June 2015 09:18
27,000 or 127,000?

Only an inspection will tell. If 27,000, there is a lot of life left in that motor.



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Re: What about this one - No. 1 [message #280005 is a reply to message #279521] Tue, 16 June 2015 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wheels and tyres - $2200. Brakes and reaction arm - 2000. Down with the tanks, clean, re - up with new hoses throughout - 1500. Give 3 for it, add 6, you're 9K into one that's drivable and safe depending on engine and trans condition.
If someone on the Black List could do a look, you could then decide whether to shine it on, or pay Frey to go and do due diligence on it. If he says shine it on, that would be the best money you've spent on a coach even though you didn't buy it.

--johnny


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Re: What about this one - No. 1 [message #280018 is a reply to message #279997] Tue, 16 June 2015 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dominik wrote on Tue, 16 June 2015 07:20
Is there an average life span for these engines ?
Because I would expect a 127',00 mile engine to also have much life left in it. ...
A 1970s engine had a life expectancy of about 100,000 miles. 127,000 would be high by 1970s standards. That was due to a combination of the oils available at the time and the carbureted vs fuel injected engines. Better oil should get it past 150,000 miles. Might still have 20,000 or so left in it before it loses compression and starts burning oil because it has had better oil in it for the past 20 years or so. To expect to get into the 200,000 mile expectancy, it would have to come from the factory with fuel injection and modern oil formulations. You can extend the life by using good modern dino oil (don't start running synthetic at its current age) and converting to fuel injection. That more or less reduces the wear per mile to about half of what it would have seen back when it was built.
Re: What about this one - No. 1 [message #280483 is a reply to message #279521] Mon, 22 June 2015 11:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So is there a technical explanation why fuel injection is better for the engine than a carburetor ?

And is there a ready-to-fit EFI upgrade kit for these engines ?
I assume the electronics can be bought from MSD, but what about the intake ?

Dominik


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Re: What about this one - No. 1 [message #280485 is a reply to message #279521] Mon, 22 June 2015 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A throttle body injection system is a boltup. Add an oxygen sensor in one of the pipes close to the manifold, you can run it closed loop and keep the mixture very close to stochiometric. Unlike a choked carburetor, the injection system doesn't throw a lot of raw gas down the engine when it's cold. Metering is much more accurate. The injection system also cranks much more quickly. Both lead to lower wear on the engine. I have and older system to put on mine in the next few months, we'll see how it performs.

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Re: [GMCnet] What about this one - No. 1 [message #280493 is a reply to message #280483] Mon, 22 June 2015 13:27 Go to previous message
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Read here about Miguel's 60+. Atomic installs
http://gmc49ers.blogspot.com/2014/05/msd-2900-atomic-tbi-efi.html

And here
http://gmc49ers.blogspot.com/2014/12/my-atomic-1973-23.html

He can even get them smooged

Erf

On Monday, June 22, 2015, Dominik Hertle wrote:

> So is there a technical explanation why fuel injection is better for the
> engine than a carburetor ?
>
> And is there a ready-to-fit EFI upgrade kit for these engines ?
> I assume the electronics can be bought from MSD, but what about the intake
> ?
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