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[GMCnet] towing [message #27909] Sun, 16 November 2008 17:21 Go to next message
Mr RONALD MCBEE is currently offline  Mr RONALD MCBEE   United States
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Need info. on towing a gmc 1975 on the road, not on trailer. What needs to be done to gmc drive train if anything.I need to bring it about 600 miles. Anyone know how easy they are to tow.Any info would be of great help. Thanks
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Re: [GMCnet] towing [message #27913 is a reply to message #27909] Sun, 16 November 2008 18:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Front wheels on the ground or off the ground? If off the ground, you
need to fill the airbags to maximum to get the back bumper as high as
possible for going into driveways etc.
Gordon
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Re: [GMCnet] towing [message #27915 is a reply to message #27909] Sun, 16 November 2008 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Nov 16, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Mr RONALD MCBEE wrote:

> Need info. on towing a gmc 1975 on the road, not on trailer. What
> needs to be done to gmc drive train if anything.I need to bring it
> about 600 miles. Anyone know how easy they are to tow.Any info would
> be of great help. Thanks

Are you towing this with all six wheels on the ground?
If so you have to remove the axles and put in some axle stubs to hold
the bearings and the wheels on.
That would be the same as taking apart your axles at the CV joint and
leaving the outer part in the front wheel bearings.

You might want to check with Bob Drewes as to his experiences doing
this with a GMC for a long distance.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] towing [message #27932 is a reply to message #27915] Sun, 16 November 2008 19:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You cannot run the front wheels with the shaft out. When we moved 2-3 miles,
I felt that my coach will not be effected by doing . Wrong. I ended up
redoing the bearing and knuckle.
If you use a trans fluid pump you can tow it all 6 on the ground. The tow
unit better be heavy.

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com> wrote:

>
> On Nov 16, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Mr RONALD MCBEE wrote:
>
> > Need info. on towing a gmc 1975 on the road, not on trailer. What
> > needs to be done to gmc drive train if anything.I need to bring it
> > about 600 miles. Anyone know how easy they are to tow.Any info would
> > be of great help. Thanks
>
> Are you towing this with all six wheels on the ground?
> If so you have to remove the axles and put in some axle stubs to hold
> the bearings and the wheels on.
> That would be the same as taking apart your axles at the CV joint and
> leaving the outer part in the front wheel bearings.
>
> You might want to check with Bob Drewes as to his experiences doing
> this with a GMC for a long distance.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Santa Fe, NM
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Re: [GMCnet] towing [message #95942 is a reply to message #27909] Sun, 15 August 2010 17:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:06:59 -0500 Frank Young <Daddyx5@sbcglobal.net>
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>
> If the tires are old and dry rotted,What are the chances of them
> heating up and blowing out within the hundred mile tow,causing major
> damage to the vessel


I would say good to excellent

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Re: [GMCnet] towing [message #95945 is a reply to message #95942] Sun, 15 August 2010 17:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A few years back I flat towed (all four tires on the road) an old MG about
20 miles to my house for a friend of mine. We put it next to the barn and
threw a tarp over it. As we were walking back to the house there was a loud
boom!. We turned and saw the tarp settling back down on the car after one
of the tires blew.

Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN

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> On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:06:59 -0500 Frank Young <Daddyx5@sbcglobal.net>
> writes:
> >
> >
> > If the tires are old and dry rotted,What are the chances of them
> > heating up and blowing out within the hundred mile tow,causing major
> > damage to the vessel
>
>
> I would say good to excellent
>
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Re: [GMCnet] towing [message #96006 is a reply to message #27909] Mon, 16 August 2010 07:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If I were to do this I'd hire a wrecker that is capable of lifting the front wheels off the ground, raise the airbags to their max, and close the valves at the airbags to minimize the opportunity for leaks. Of course, as mentioned, you want good tires on the ground. Check the manufacture date code, don't just look at the tread. Tires older than 8 years should not be trusted.

Last time I had my GMC towed this way the cost was $5.00 per loaded mile.


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Re: [GMCnet] Towing [message #195937 is a reply to message #27909] Sat, 19 January 2013 11:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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probably All Wheel drive, rather than just 4wd.


On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:40:25 -0700 Emery Stora <emerystora@mac.com>
writes:
> If this is a rear wheel drive why can't you just back it onto a
> dolly?
>
> Emery Stora
>
> On Jan 18, 2013, at 7:00 AM, Thomas Phipps wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Subaru automatics must be towed on a trailer. No dolly lifting
> just the front two wheels. Removing or disconnecting the driveshaft
> to the rear wheels will not allow a dolly to be used. Per
> conversation with Subaru America engineer.
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Re: [GMCnet] towing [message #195939 is a reply to message #27909] Sat, 19 January 2013 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mr RONALD MCBEE wrote on Sun, 16 November 2008 15:21

Need info. on towing a gmc 1975 on the road, not on trailer. What needs to be done to gmc drive train if anything.I need to bring it about 600 miles. Anyone know how easy they are to tow.Any info would be of great help. Thanks
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Perhaps Randy Van Winkle can chime in. I remember he and his brother towed a 23' a few miles and it didn't want to follow worth beans. They had a tow bar connected (bumper off) and the tail wag of the tow vehicle made the coach start right on a left turn and it didn't want to correct. (same with the right turn) Randy's brother ended up having to man-handle the steering wheel to get it to follow.


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Re: [GMCnet] towing [message #195948 is a reply to message #195939] Sat, 19 January 2013 16:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A few years ago Jim White (from S Dakota) towed a GMC 60 miles behind a big diesel PU. Attached a tow bar to the front bumper, put lights on it,and put stub axles in the knuckles. Said it towed like a little puppy beind that big PU. No problems getting it to his home. He drove state and county highways.

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Re: [GMCnet] towing [message #195951 is a reply to message #195948] Sat, 19 January 2013 17:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry wrote on Sat, 19 January 2013 16:39

A few years ago Jim White (from S Dakota) towed a GMC 60 miles behind a big diesel PU. Attached a tow bar to the front bumper, put lights on it,and put stub axles in the knuckles. Said it towed like a little puppy beind that big PU. No problems getting it to his home. He drove state and county highways.



Yep...set the cruise on the Duramax at 50+, and up and down the humpback hills of Nebrasky we went... just a cruising..

Bob Drewes in SESD
Re: [GMCnet] Towing [message #195958 is a reply to message #27909] Sat, 19 January 2013 19:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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With the rear wheels on a dolly, you'd still have the front wheels
turning the transmission, wouldn't you?

ronC

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:55:26 -0600 Matt Colie <matt7323tze@gmail.com>
writes:
>
>
> emerystora wrote on Sat, 19 January 2013 11:40
> > If this is a rear wheel drive why can't you just back it onto a
> dolly?
> >
> > Emery Stora
> >
> > On Jan 18, 2013, at 7:00 AM, Thomas Phipps wrote:
> > > Subaru automatics must be towed on a trailer. No dolly lifting
> just the front two wheels. Removing or disconnecting the driveshaft
> to the rear wheels will not allow a dolly to be used. Per
> conversation with Subaru America engineer.
> > > Tom, MS II
>
> Emery,
>
> Many Subarus are four wheel drive. Those that aren't are front
> wheel drive. Those could be pulled on a dolly.
> The four wheel drive Subarus don't have a real transfer case. Just
> a dog clutch to the rear drive. That bearing doesn't get any lube
> if the transmission isn't turning.
>
> What I can't figure out is why pulling the rear drive shaft wouldn't
> get by this.
>
> Matt
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Re: [GMCnet] Towing [message #195960 is a reply to message #27909] Sat, 19 January 2013 19:58 Go to previous message
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While full timing a decade or so ago we towed a 1999 Subaru Outback std shift behind our large diesel pusher for close to 80,000 miles. Only thing you needed to do was put it in neutral and unlock the steering wheel. Towed like a dream. Around 3600 pounds so a bit heavy for a GMC to tow. We gave it to our granddaughter and it is still going strong at nearly 200,000 miles. Never saw the inside of a shop that I know of but I think I recall my son saying he had to change the clutch after she learned to drive without leaving one foot on it......

As indicated in the post, the auto trans units cannot be towed four wheels down.

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emerystora wrote on Sat, 19 January 2013 11:40
> If this is a rear wheel drive why can't you just back it onto a dolly?
>
> Emery Stora
>
> On Jan 18, 2013, at 7:00 AM, Thomas Phipps wrote:
>> Subaru automatics must be towed on a trailer. No dolly lifting just the front two wheels. Removing or disconnecting the driveshaft to the rear wheels will not allow a dolly to be used. Per conversation with Subaru America engineer.
>> Tom, MS II

Emery,

Many Subarus are four wheel drive. Those that aren't are front wheel drive. Those could be pulled on a dolly.
The four wheel drive Subarus don't have a real transfer case. Just a dog clutch to the rear drive. That bearing doesn't get any lube if the transmission isn't turning.

What I can't figure out is why pulling the rear drive shaft wouldn't get by this.

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