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W/S Wiper Troubles [message #278749] Sat, 30 May 2015 20:51 Go to next message
Jon payne is currently offline  Jon payne   United States
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Hi all,

Just finished replacing the power steering pump and now the wipers don't move. Pump has been thoroughly bled, wiper motor filter was removed a few years ago when the steering gear was replaced (a requirement per Dave Lenzi). I checked the pwr steering pump fluid level and it is fine. I also actuated the wiper motor switch at the motor by hand thus eliminating any adjustment issues of the switch but still no joy.

Not sure what else to check. Does this mean the motor is shot? Can't think what eles could be the problem.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Jon


Jon Payne
76 Palm Beach
Westfield,IN
Re: W/S Wiper Troubles [message #278752 is a reply to message #278749] Sat, 30 May 2015 22:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bullitthead is currently offline  Bullitthead   United States
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Did you try moving the wipers by hand with the engine running and the wiper control in the ON position? Perhaps the wiper motor is airlocked and needs to be cycled a couple of times to get the air out.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: [GMCnet] W/S Wiper Troubles [message #278753 is a reply to message #278749] Sat, 30 May 2015 22:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Hmmm, this seems like a good time to announce that, due to my excess
inventory, I'm running a sale on the electric wiper kits: $150 for the
hardware vs normal $200. The wiring harness is still $100. All you need
in addition is a junkyard motor at Hi all,[/color]
>
> Just finished replacing the power steering pump and now the wipers don't
> move. Pump has been thoroughly bled, wiper motor filter was removed a few
> years ago when the steering gear was replaced (a requirement per Dave
> Lenzi). I checked the pwr steering pump fluid level and it is fine. I also
> actuated the wiper motor switch at the motor by hand thus eliminating any
> adjustment issues of the switch but still no joy.
>
> Not sure what else to check. Does this mean the motor is shot? Can't
> think what eles could be the problem.
>
> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Jon
> --
>
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Re: [GMCnet] W/S Wiper Troubles [message #278756 is a reply to message #278753] Sun, 31 May 2015 00:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
appie is currently offline  appie   Denmark
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It took my wipers 1000 kilometers before they worked properly.
It firsth they did nothing then a wipe every now and again then slowly and at last well It seems air get trapped


Appie eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold 6 wheel discbrake Quadrabags Springfield stage 2 462 olds Manny tranny ( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016 Denmark
Re: [GMCnet] W/S Wiper Troubles [message #278759 is a reply to message #278756] Sun, 31 May 2015 03:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Appie,

KenH is having a inventory clearance sale on his electric windshield wiper kit, I HIGHLY recommend it!

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: lenze middelberg

It took my wipers 1000 kilometers before they worked properly.
It firsth they did nothing then a wipe every now and again then slowly and at last well It seems air get trapped

Appie

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Re: W/S Wiper Troubles [message #278765 is a reply to message #278752] Sun, 31 May 2015 08:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jon payne is currently offline  Jon payne   United States
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I did try moving the wipers by hand with the engine running. Perhaps I'll try that again.

Ken, I do like the idea of switching to your set up and might just do that but we are leaving next week and I don't have the time to install before I leave.


Jon


Jon Payne
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Westfield,IN
Re: W/S Wiper Troubles [message #278768 is a reply to message #278749] Sun, 31 May 2015 09:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The wiper motor is the highest point in the system, and consequently the hardest to get the air out of. As someone said, keep them turned on. Eventually, a small move, then more, and finally the air is purged.
Ken offers a good long term solution. And, the price is right. The only reason I don't have that setup is, I'm slowly trying to dope out a parallel blade system... I think it would clear more area. It requires a mockup to get everything in the right place the first time, since it will require cutting some holes in the front cap.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: W/S Wiper Troubles [message #278779 is a reply to message #278765] Sun, 31 May 2015 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bullitthead is currently offline  Bullitthead   United States
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You should raise the engine RPM above idle when trying to move those wipers by hand, and make sure the control is ON. Doesn't have to be at the maximum speed position, and the RPM doesn't need to exceed 1500 or thereabouts. You may also need to turn the steering from lock to lock while doing this operation, so you may want to jack the front wheels to ease the load on the steering components.

Terry Kelpien ASE Master Technician 73 Glacier 260 Smithfield, Va.
Re: W/S Wiper Troubles [message #278784 is a reply to message #278749] Sun, 31 May 2015 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jon Payne wrote on Sat, 30 May 2015 20:51
Hi all,
Just finished replacing the power steering pump and now the wipers don't move. Pump has been thoroughly bled, wiper motor filter was removed a few years ago when the steering gear was replaced (a requirement per Dave Lenzi). I checked the pwr steering pump fluid level and it is fine. I also actuated the wiper motor switch at the motor by hand thus eliminating any adjustment issues of the switch but still no joy.

Not sure what else to check. Does this mean the motor is shot? Can't think what eles could be the problem.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Jon
If you need to be on the road with non-functional wipers, Rain-X is your friend.
Re: W/S Wiper Troubles [message #278788 is a reply to message #278749] Sun, 31 May 2015 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Where do you get stock wiper blade refills? I have close by Advance, O'Rielly, AutoZone and WalMart. None have them, and the blade mount is an outlaw... modern 'fits 'em all' doesn't. I modified some cheapies into refills, but they aren't going to last.

--johnny


Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons. Braselton, Ga. I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
Re: W/S Wiper Troubles [message #278790 is a reply to message #278788] Sun, 31 May 2015 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Johnny Bridges wrote on Sun, 31 May 2015 15:20
Where do you get stock wiper blade refills? I have close by Advance, O'Rielly, AutoZone and WalMart. None have them, and the blade mount is an outlaw... modern 'fits 'em all' doesn't. I modified some cheapies into refills, but they aren't going to last.

--johnny
I got mine off ebay. I did a search on the part numbers from http://gmcmotorhome.info/body.html#WIPER and ended up nobody had two, so had to buy one from one seller and one from another. I think they ended up being around $10 each with shipping. Internet search showed there is an auto parts store about 40 - 50 miles from me that stocks them, but it was cheaper to buy off ebay and wait for delivery than burn gas driving to get them.
Re: W/S Wiper Troubles [message #278791 is a reply to message #278790] Sun, 31 May 2015 15:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A Hamilto wrote on Sun, 31 May 2015 15:46
Johnny Bridges wrote on Sun, 31 May 2015 15:20
Where do you get stock wiper blade refills? I have close by Advance, O'Rielly, AutoZone and WalMart. None have them, and the blade mount is an outlaw... modern 'fits 'em all' doesn't. I modified some cheapies into refills, but they aren't going to last.

--johnny
I got mine off ebay. I did a search on the part numbers from http://gmcmotorhome.info/body.html#WIPER and ended up nobody had two, so had to buy one from one seller and one from another. I think they ended up being around $10 each with shipping. Internet search showed there is an auto parts store about 40 - 50 miles from me that stocks them, but it was cheaper to buy off ebay and wait for delivery than burn gas driving to get them.
Summit Racing has ANCO 53-20s for $5.93 each, and two in a shopping cart with ground delivery estimated at $5.95 to my zip code is $17.81 a pair. By the time you factor in your gas to drive somewhere you will spend more than that trying to buy locally.
Re: W/S Wiper Troubles [message #278850 is a reply to message #278768] Mon, 01 June 2015 15:55 Go to previous message
Jon payne is currently offline  Jon payne   United States
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Wipers are now functional. Seems overnight the air got worked out. Checked them Sunday and they are working fine.

Thanks all!


Jon Payne
76 Palm Beach
Westfield,IN
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