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Needs to be hauled from central Illinois to central Missouri. Engine isn't running. A friend bought it. I'm just trying to help. Bob Dunahugh Member GMCMI

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Re: [GMCnet] Any suggestions on getting a GMC hauled 300 miles? [message #277615 is a reply to message #277613] Sun, 10 May 2015 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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$180 AAA premier account, could get it hauled 200 miles.

then you have to worry about or pay for the next 100 miles, or you could have a second person get another AAA account to get the last 100 miles in.

probably cheaper then gas.



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Re: [GMCnet] Any suggestions on getting a GMC hauled 300 miles? [message #277618 is a reply to message #277613] Sun, 10 May 2015 22:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: [GMCnet] Any suggestions on getting a GMC hauled 300 miles? [message #277619 is a reply to message #277613] Sun, 10 May 2015 22:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Put a posting and see what you get. If you are not in a hurry you can get a decent deal at times.

AAA is an option as well but they have some restrictions on where they will deliver (i.e., may need to be to an authorized repair facility only)

If it is going to a shop...definitely get the premier AAA and pay the last chunk.


75 Glenbrook
Re: [GMCnet] Any suggestions on getting a GMC hauled 300 miles? [message #277620 is a reply to message #277613] Sun, 10 May 2015 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not sure what part of central Illinois you are starting from, or even if I can help. But I am in Springfield IL. My contact info is on the blacklist. I may be able to put you in touch with some local tow and/or trucking firms.

Paul Zerkel
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Re: [GMCnet] Any suggestions on getting a GMC hauled 300 miles? [message #277621 is a reply to message #277619] Mon, 11 May 2015 00:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim Galbavy is currently offline  Jim Galbavy   United States
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I have AAA RV Plus, they will tow where ever you want, up to 200 miles.
Does not have to be a repair shop. Can be your driveway.

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Re: [GMCnet] Any suggestions on getting a GMC hauled 300 miles? [message #277631 is a reply to message #277615] Mon, 11 May 2015 07:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Its this sort of thing thats going to kill long distance towing for those that really need it..........


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lqqkatjon wrote on Sun, 10 May 2015 20:45
$180 AAA premier account, could get it hauled 200 miles.

then you have to worry about or pay for the next 100 miles, or you could have a second person get another AAA account to get the last 100 miles in.

probably cheaper then gas.




Cary, NC 1978 Center Kitchen Royale.
Re: [GMCnet] Any suggestions on getting a GMC hauled 300 miles? [message #277633 is a reply to message #277631] Mon, 11 May 2015 07:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thesmith wrote on Mon, 11 May 2015 08:23
Its this sort of thing thats going to kill long distance towing for those that really need it..........


Pete Sad


lqqkatjon wrote on Sun, 10 May 2015 20:45
$180 AAA premier account, could get it hauled 200 miles.

then you have to worry about or pay for the next 100 miles, or you could have a second person get another AAA account to get the last 100 miles in.

probably cheaper then gas.




AAA has been doing this kind of thing for a long time. If it hasn't killed towing yet, it's not going to. I will say check your AAA RV closely. Here in Alabama (and Florida as well) it's only 100 miles for an RV, 200 miles for a car. But the mileage is dependent on where your AAA comes from, not where you are when you need it.


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Re: [GMCnet] Any suggestions on getting a GMC hauled 300 miles? [message #277640 is a reply to message #277633] Mon, 11 May 2015 09:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AAA has so many paying members that never use the service.
Having it towed by them does not make a dent in their bank account.
Re: [GMCnet] Any suggestions on getting a GMC hauled 300 miles? [message #277673 is a reply to message #277619] Mon, 11 May 2015 15:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AAA towed mine to my house no problem.


trapper_canada wrote on Sun, 10 May 2015 20:18
www.uship.com

Put a posting and see what you get. If you are not in a hurry you can get a decent deal at times.

AAA is an option as well but they have some restrictions on where they will deliver (i.e., may need to be to an authorized repair facility only)

If it is going to a shop...definitely get the premier AAA and pay the last chunk.



Brian & RaeDean 1973 26' #383 Washougal WA
Re: [GMCnet] Any suggestions on getting a GMC hauled 300 miles? [message #277700 is a reply to message #277613] Mon, 11 May 2015 20:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Towing plans don't apply here. The coach was bought broken. So far we have a bid of $1,000 from Springfield Ill to Springfield Mo. That price seems far to me. But still checking. As to what I found Sat. The engine has about 8,000 miles on the rebuild. Seems to have a main bearing that died. Nothing is broken. So this will be a simple fix. And the engine bill of material listed a high volume oil pump. So much for high volume pumps being able to avoid oil delivery problems. That type of pump just has no value in these Olds engines as we use them.. And I'd like to have someone give a reason of what benefit is gained by there use. Bob Dunahugh
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Needs to be hauled from central Illinois to central Missouri. Engine isn't running. A friend bought it. I'm just trying to help. Bob Dunahugh Member GMCMI

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Re: [GMCnet] Any suggestions on getting a GMC hauled 300 miles? [message #277703 is a reply to message #277700] Mon, 11 May 2015 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BobDunahugh wrote on Mon, 11 May 2015 20:57
...So much for high volume pumps being able to avoid oil delivery problems. That type of pump just has no value in these Olds engines as we use them.. And I'd like to have someone give a reason of what benefit is gained by there use...


Bob, the value in the high volume oil pump is increased oil pressure IF you have clearanced the thrust bearings like many recommend to increase lube on the thrust bearing. We did that on my 403 when we built it but used the standard pump. Hot oil pressure was 35psi at speed and about 18psi at hot idle. 18psi is plenty at idle but my digipanel beeps at 20psi and that annoyed me. When I had the tranny out, I pulled the pan, changed to a high volume pump AND the hardened oil pump shaft. Now I have 45psi at speed and 25psi at idle.

The high volume pump put enough oil up to the top of the engine to get the gauge reading higher.


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: [GMCnet] Any suggestions on getting a GMC hauled 300 miles? [message #277706 is a reply to message #277703] Mon, 11 May 2015 22:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dick Paterson also uses the High volume oil pump in his motor builds that he sell. He is after pressure of course, but he is also after volume of oil passing thru the motor. Can’t argue with success!

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> On May 11, 2015, at 11:13 PM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
>
> BobDunahugh wrote on Mon, 11 May 2015 20:57
>> ...So much for high volume pumps being able to avoid oil delivery problems. That type of pump just has no value in these Olds engines as we use
>> them.. And I'd like to have someone give a reason of what benefit is gained by there use...
>
>
> Bob, the value in the high volume oil pump is increased oil pressure IF you have clearanced the thrust bearings like many recommend to increase lube
> on the thrust bearing. We did that on my 403 when we built it but used the standard pump. Hot oil pressure was 35psi at speed and about 18psi at hot
> idle. 18psi is plenty at idle but my digipanel beeps at 20psi and that annoyed me. When I had the tranny out, I pulled the pan, changed to a high
> volume pump AND the hardened oil pump shaft. Now I have 45psi at speed and 25psi at idle.
>
> The high volume pump put enough oil up to the top of the engine to get the gauge reading higher.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama
>
> 77 Eleganza II, 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny, lots of aluminum goodies.
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Re: [GMCnet] Any suggestions on getting a GMC hauled 300 miles? [message #277707 is a reply to message #277613] Mon, 11 May 2015 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BobDunahugh wrote on Sun, 10 May 2015 19:04



Needs to be hauled from central Illinois to central Missouri. Engine isn't running. A friend bought it. I'm just trying to help. Bob Dunahugh Member GMCMI

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Are you looking for a towing solution or an argument about high volume oil pumps?? I think you got more than enough suggestions to move forward.


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Re: [GMCnet] Any suggestions on getting a GMC hauled 300 miles? [message #277715 is a reply to message #277700] Tue, 12 May 2015 00:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[quote title=BobDunahugh wrote on Mon, 11 May 2015 18:57]Towing plans don't apply here. The coach was bought broken. So far we have a bid of $1,000 from Springfield Ill to Springfield Mo. That price seems far to me. But still checking. As to what I found Sat. The engine has about 8,000 miles on the rebuild. Seems to have a main bearing that died. Nothing is broken. So this will be a simple fix. And the engine bill of material listed a high volume oil pump. So much for high volume pumps being able to avoid oil delivery problems. That type of pump just has no value in these Olds engines as we use them.. And I'd like to have someone give a reason of what benefit is gained by there use. Bob Dunahugh
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When you take the bottom end apart it would be interesting as to what was wrong with a main bearing? If it is only one bearing I assume we are talking about the thrust bearing? Also look close at the oil filter relief I am going to pry the relief out of mine as it looks like the disc is worn and leaking by at times. I will fix it of course and put it back in.



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Re: [GMCnet] Any suggestions on getting a GMC hauled 300 miles? [message #277721 is a reply to message #277700] Tue, 12 May 2015 09:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No argument. I said last week that I'd get back and report on what I found wrong with Glen, and BJ's coach for the new owners. So I did. And there's a thought out there that a high volume pumps are better for lubricating engines. High volume oil pumps are useful on good condition engines that you add any item that requires oil for that items operation. Like turbo chargers,or an extra oil cooler. Another application would be if you had an engine that has excessive bearing clearance that will let excess oil pass between the bearing and it's mating cam, or crankshaft. It's the only way to increase you oil pressure in a warn out engine because oil demand is higher then the stock pump can deliver. If a high volume oil pump is installed in an engine that is in good condition. The excesses oil that is pumped will just be sent back to the bottom of the oil pan by the relief valve. There will be no extra oil put into suspension to cool the bottom of the pistons. The relief valve wi
ll dump this oil at 35 PSI. This pumping oil back to the pan will waste HP to move this extra oil, and produce extra heat. And put extra load on the oil pump drive that GM didn't design for. So no argument. Just the facts. Bob Dunahugh
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Towing plans don't apply here. The coach was bought broken. So far we have a bid of $1,000 from Springfield Ill to Springfield Mo. That price seems far to me. But still checking. As to what I found Sat. The engine has about 8,000 miles on the rebuild. Seems to have a main bearing that died. Nothing is broken. So this will be a simple fix. And the engine bill of material listed a high volume oil pump. So much for high volume pumps being able to avoid oil delivery problems. That type of pump just has no value in these Olds engines as we use them.. And I'd like to have someone give a reason of what benefit is gained by there use. Bob Dunahugh
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Needs to be hauled from central Illinois to central Missouri. Engine isn't running. A friend bought it. I'm just trying to help. Bob Dunahugh Member GMCMI

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Re: [GMCnet] Any suggestions on getting a GMC hauled 300 miles? [message #277742 is a reply to message #277613] Tue, 12 May 2015 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I put the word out that I was looking to get a GMC hauled. A close friend told me about a friend of his that hauls farm equipment behind his Peter Built on a low boy trailer. Round trip will be about 700 miles. He said he'd load, and haul the GMC for $700 total. So if you need a GMC moved. Farm equipment haulers might be the people to call. Bob Dunahugh Member GMCMI
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Re: [GMCnet] Any suggestions on getting a GMC hauled 300 miles? [message #277750 is a reply to message #277742] Wed, 13 May 2015 06:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sounds like a good deal to me......... Cool



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I put the word out that I was looking to get a GMC hauled. A close friend told me about a friend of his that hauls farm equipment behind his Peter Built on a low boy trailer. Round trip will be about 700 miles. He said he'd load, and haul the GMC for $700 total. So if you need a GMC moved. Farm equipment haulers might be the people to call. Bob Dunahugh Member GMCMI
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Re: [GMCnet] Any suggestions on getting a GMC hauled 300 miles? [message #277755 is a reply to message #277613] Wed, 13 May 2015 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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700 is a good price. I paid a grand to have my parts coach hauled about 300 miles from Macon Ga. I used UShip. The only snag was I had to hire a roll back to pick the coach up and get it high enough so it would go on the trailer because the air bags wouldn't air up.


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G'day,

My parts Avion got moved from Baltimore, Maryland to Knoxville, Tennessee (525 mi) for $600 by a trucker on Uship.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
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700 is a good price. I paid a grand to have my parts coach hauled about 300 miles from Macon Ga. I used UShip. The only snag was
I had to hire a roll back to pick the coach up and get it high enough so it would go on the trailer because the air bags wouldn't
air up.

Kerry

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