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[GMCnet] hot water heater element [message #276404] Tue, 21 April 2015 15:51 Go to next message
william ezzell is currently offline  william ezzell   United States
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does anyone know the model number of the hot water element, that I can go
to a store any ask for that number.

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Re: [GMCnet] hot water heater element [message #276407 is a reply to message #276404] Tue, 21 April 2015 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bill, were you able to get yours removed ? If so you should be able to match it at a plumbing supply shop ( home depot, Lowes, etc).

here are some photos of the 1st design that may help.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/3691/691_p7921.jpg

Its under this panel

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/3691/691_p7922.jpg



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Re: [GMCnet] hot water heater element [message #276409 is a reply to message #276404] Tue, 21 April 2015 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm not home and therefore am unable to look in my GMC maintenance manual, but I believe that the water heater is likely to be covered in that manual. Non-GMC items are often covered in supplements to that main manual and MIGHT have part numbers for the ancillary items.

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> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 16:51:55 -0400
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> does anyone know the model number of the hot water element, that I can go
> to a store any ask for that number.
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Re: [GMCnet] hot water heater element [message #276414 is a reply to message #276404] Tue, 21 April 2015 17:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Bill,

I checked Parts Book 78Z and on page 28-33 the first design water heater (square case) notes the part number of the element to be
707467.

Page 28-35 the second design water heater and notes the part number of the element to be 2007714.

NEITHER of these part numbers are relevant to your search, however, both have four bolt flanges which I'll bet dollars to donuts are
the same.

As noted in an earlier email the element should read 9.6 ohms and if when checked with a VOM it reads 000 (infinity) it is bad
remove it and take it to Home Depot or an RV store and they will be able to match it up for you. I would suggest you bring your VOM
with you and check the new one and see what it reads. In fact I'd ask the RV shop to check it too!

I just went to the Home Depot website and did a search of Water Heater Element 1500 watt and all the ones they have are screw in:

http://www.homedepot.com/b/N-5yc1v/Ntk-Extended/Ntt-water%2Bheater%2Belement%2B1500%2Bwatt?style=List

HOWEVER, they sell an adapter kit:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-Universal-Adapter-Kit-15004/204834526


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does anyone know the model number of the hot water element, that I can go to a store any ask for that number.

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Re: [GMCnet] hot water heater element [message #276415 is a reply to message #276414] Tue, 21 April 2015 17:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good work, Rob.
Handy info when on the road....

Mike in NS

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Robert Mueller
wrote:

> Bill,
>
> I checked Parts Book 78Z and on page 28-33 the first design water heater
> (square case) notes the part number of the element to be
> 707467.
>
> Page 28-35 the second design water heater and notes the part number of the
> element to be 2007714.
>
> NEITHER of these part numbers are relevant to your search, however, both
> have four bolt flanges which I'll bet dollars to donuts are
> the same.
>
> As noted in an earlier email the element should read 9.6 ohms and if when
> checked with a VOM it reads 000 (infinity) it is bad
> remove it and take it to Home Depot or an RV store and they will be able
> to match it up for you. I would suggest you bring your VOM
> with you and check the new one and see what it reads. In fact I'd ask the
> RV shop to check it too!
>
> I just went to the Home Depot website and did a search of Water Heater
> Element 1500 watt and all the ones they have are screw in:
>
>
> http://www.homedepot.com/b/N-5yc1v/Ntk-Extended/Ntt-water%2Bheater%2Belement%2B1500%2Bwatt?style=List
>
> HOWEVER, they sell an adapter kit:
>
> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-Universal-Adapter-Kit-15004/204834526
>
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: william ezzell
>
> does anyone know the model number of the hot water element, that I can go
> to a store any ask for that number.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] hot water heater element [message #276423 is a reply to message #276404] Tue, 21 April 2015 19:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Screw-in elements pretty much displaced 4-bolt bases in the early 90s. Some plumbing supply houses might carry the 4-bolt base in household wattages, but 1500w/120v aren't popular. I'd used the conversion plate to convert to the more popular type. But Amazon does have a 'Universal Flange' model.

http://www.amazon.com/Camco-Universal-Flange-Heater-Element/dp/B000EDQQ88


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Re: [GMCnet] hot water heater element [message #276448 is a reply to message #276404] Wed, 22 April 2015 06:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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I'm 98% sure I remember ours was not functional when we got the Eleganza (77). I went to Lowes and found one that matched. It's been a few years and I don't have the part number.



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Re: [GMCnet] hot water heater element [message #276450 is a reply to message #276404] Wed, 22 April 2015 06:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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I probably have the 1500W element in mine. The water gets really hot, really fast. The 4000W 240V element wired for 120V is probably a better choice. How do you wire up the 4000W (240V) to the 110V? Just power one leg?

BTW, if you Google 1000W water heater element, you'll find lots of them. For instance:

http://www.amazon.com/Camco-02103-Screw-In-Heater-Element/dp/B0006IX8AA


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Re: [GMCnet] hot water heater element [message #276452 is a reply to message #276450] Wed, 22 April 2015 07:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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kerry pinkerton wrote on Wed, 22 April 2015 07:48
I probably have the 1500W element in mine. The water gets really hot, really fast. The 4000W 240V element wired for 120V is probably a better choice. How do you wire up the 4000W (240V) to the 110V? Just power one leg?

Kerry,

This is really how simple it is.... (The only dumb question is the one you were afraid to ask.)
If you connect the new 240V element the same way that the 120V element was, it will be on just one leg of the service and will be on 120V. The 240V elements also have only two connections. If you held both in your hand, that 4K element will be 4 times larger.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] hot water heater element [message #276458 is a reply to message #276423] Wed, 22 April 2015 09:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To my knowledge, here in the great white north, our Canadian made DHW tanks still use the 4-bolt elements. The screw-in elements we see here are for US made tanks imported by the big box stores.

The "Giant" brand of DHW tanks made here in Montreal are available in 120v models, and although I have not verified it, I wouldn't be surprised if one of their elements would fit the GMC. IIRC, Giant has 800w, 1000w, and 1500w elements Rated for 110v service.

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> On Apr 21, 2015, at 8:09 PM, RC Jordan wrote:
>
> Screw-in elements pretty much displaced 4-bolt bases in the early 90s. Some plumbing supply houses might carry the 4-bolt base in household wattages,
> but 1500w/120v aren't popular. I'd used the conversion plate to convert to the more popular type. But Amazon does have a 'Universal Flange' model.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Camco-Universal-Flange-Heater-Element/dp/B000EDQQ88
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Re: [GMCnet] hot water heater element [message #276515 is a reply to message #276404] Thu, 23 April 2015 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is the 240V bolt-on element we put in our OEM water heater. Our heater is a round one with a blue front with a white insulation wrap. It fit and works just fine.

Camco 04942/04943 4500W 240V, comes with a gasket but no bolts. We cleaned up and use our old bolts. We put Tef Gel on the threads so it would be easier to get the bolts out in the future. Got ours on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/177-3670428-8095968?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Camco+04942

We also removed the anode which took some doing. It was completely gone. We sprayed the threads with PB Blaster and was able to get our impact wrench in on the head and eventually we knocked it loose and got it out. We replaced it with a Camco 11563 Aluminum Anode Rod with a 3/4" NPT head. A lot of them are only 1/2".

http://www.amazon.com/Camco-11563-Aluminum-Anode-Rod/dp/B000701HF0/ref=sr_1_7/176-0146709-1065573?ie=UTF8&qid=1385645900&sr=8-7&keywords=r v+water+heater+element

And we added a digital timer intermatic E1205LA5 in the electric closet to replace the OEM manual switch. It works great and we can heat a tank full in about 30 minutes but it depends on the temp of the water already in the tank.

http://www.amazon.com/Intermatic-EI205LA5-Electronic-Countdown-Auto-Off/dp/B003A1JE9O/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429796454&sr=8-1-fkmr0& ;keywords=digital+timer+intermatic+ei205la5

Here's 2 photos that might help:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6777-water-heater.html

Hope this helps and good luck.





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Re: [GMCnet] hot water heater element [message #276519 is a reply to message #276515] Thu, 23 April 2015 09:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
william ezzell is currently offline  william ezzell   United States
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IT does help Thanks a lot Bill

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Mickey Szilagyi
wrote:

> This is the 240V bolt-on element we put in our OEM water heater. Our
> heater is a round one with a blue front with a white insulation wrap. It
> fit
> and works just fine.
>
> Camco 04942/04943 4500W 240V, comes with a gasket but no bolts. We
> cleaned up and use our old bolts. We put Tef Gel on the threads so it
> would be
> easier to get the bolts out in the future. Got ours on Amazon.
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/177-3670428-8095968?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Camco+04942
>
> We also removed the anode which took some doing. It was completely gone.
> We sprayed the threads with PB Blaster and was able to get our impact
> wrench in on the head and eventually we knocked it loose and got it out.
> We replaced it with a Camco 11563 Aluminum Anode Rod with a 3/4" NPT head.
> A lot of them are only 1/2".
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Camco-11563-Aluminum-Anode-Rod/dp/B000701HF0/ref=sr_1_7/176-0146709-1065573?ie=UTF8&qid=1385645900&sr=8-7&keywords=r v+water+heater+element
>
> And we added a digital timer intermatic E1205LA5 in the electric closet to
> replace the OEM manual switch. It works great and we can heat a tank full
> in about 30 minutes but it depends on the temp of the water already in the
> tank.
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Intermatic-EI205LA5-Electronic-Countdown-Auto-Off/dp/B003A1JE9O/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429796454&sr=8-1-fkmr0& ;keywords=digital+timer+intermatic+ei205la5
>
> Here's 2 photos that might help:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6777-water-heater.html
>
> Hope this helps and good luck.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] hot water heater element [message #276535 is a reply to message #276404] Thu, 23 April 2015 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob, does your ohmmeter really read 000 with open leads? Mine will read --- or INF depending on the meter. If it reads 000 open, what does it read when the leads are shorted?
Another argument for analog VOMs.

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Re: [GMCnet] hot water heater element [message #276568 is a reply to message #276535] Thu, 23 April 2015 17:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Digital volt/ohm meters will read infinity with open leads and should read all ZEROS when leads are touched together. At lower meter settings the meter might show a small amount of resistance depending on the quality of the leads.

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> On Apr 23, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Johnny Bridges wrote:
>
> Rob, does your ohmmeter really read 000 with open leads? Mine will read --- or INF depending on the meter. If it reads 000 opem, what does it read
> when the leads are shorted?
> Another argument for analog VOMs.
>
> --johnny
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Re: [GMCnet] hot water heater element [message #276601 is a reply to message #276568] Thu, 23 April 2015 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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powerjon wrote on Thu, 23 April 2015 17:58
Digital volt/ohm meters will read infinity with open leads and should read all ZEROS when leads are touched together. At lower meter settings the meter might show a small amount of resistance depending on the quality of the leads.

JR Wright
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> On Apr 23, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Johnny Bridges wrote:
>
> Rob, does your ohmmeter really read 000 with open leads? Mine will read --- or INF depending on the meter. If it reads 000 opem, what does it read
> when the leads are shorted?
> Another argument for analog VOMs.
>
> --johnny
> --
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> Braselton, Ga.
>
> "Sometimes I wonder what tomorrow's gonna bring when I think about my dirty life and times" --Warren Zevon
[

I wonder if those same rules apply when youa re reading them up side down.


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Re: [GMCnet] hot water heater element [message #276622 is a reply to message #276404] Fri, 24 April 2015 08:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No, the analog is reversed upside down... short to the left, open to the right, on my SOLTEC.

--johnny


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Re: [GMCnet] hot water heater element [message #276671 is a reply to message #276535] Fri, 24 April 2015 22:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Johnny,

You are 100% correct! Continuity reads 000!

However, guess who can't remember if he had the Ohms scale selected! DOUH!

Yep, I love my big black Simpson!

Regards,
Rob M.


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Rob, does your ohmmeter really read 000 with open leads? Mine will read --- or INF depending on the meter. If it reads 000 opem,
what does it read when the leads are shorted?
Another argument for analog VOMs.

--johnny


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Re: [GMCnet] hot water heater element [message #276693 is a reply to message #276404] Sat, 25 April 2015 09:31 Go to previous message
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Over 55 years of playing with electronic gear, I've had tens of thousands of bux in test gear of one sort or another. 90% of the time, the trusty Simpson 260 VOM was the weapon of choice. If you had the one with the overload breaker on the front, you could inadvertently read the ohms in an AC outlet without damage.

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