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appie is currently offline  appie   France
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Just wondering
My speedo odemeter is about 12% off compared with tomtom. I believe tomtom to be right. Also compared with the milage. Just wondering why it can be so much off. That is showing less mph. It is the original with a new cable, butnow without powersteering. Manny trans rebuild in theNetherlands.

Otherwise I found a limit to Olga s abilitys. We wanted to visit a castle at Lindoso, northern Portugal. A rainy day, a not so steep incline and wet cobblestones. New Micheline summer tires. Just spinning, leaving rubber on the cobbles, bad smell


Going to Paris, France tomorrow, seeing the. http://albert-kahn.hauts-de-seine.net/venir-au-musee/informations-pratiques/http://albert-kahn.hauts-de-seine.net/venir-au-musee/informations-pratiques/


Appie eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold 6 wheel discbrake Quadrabags Springfield stage 2 462 olds Manny tranny ( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016 Denmark
Re: Speedo and odometer way of [message #276115 is a reply to message #276114] Sat, 18 April 2015 02:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tire size and gear ratio will affect the speedo.

12% sounds like the gear ratio may have been changed.

There are adapters that will correct the accuracy.

Here us a link for tire size conversion:
http://gmcmotorhome.info/tires.html





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Re: [GMCnet] Speedo and odometer way of [message #276116 is a reply to message #276114] Sat, 18 April 2015 02:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not helpful, but I found the speedometer on my GMC to be off as well, by
around 4-5mph.

Luckily, we did not experience any cobblestone while touring
VA,NC,MA,PA,WV :D

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Re: Speedo and odometer way of [message #276117 is a reply to message #276114] Sat, 18 April 2015 04:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for the replys. Forgpt to write tiresize 225x75x16. Alcoas
Was wondering about the fd. But seems to be the original 3.07?


Peer good you did not meet the cobblestones, but then you are meeting all these interesting people. Wish I could have same pf these to do my steering.


Happy trails


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Re: [GMCnet] Speedo and odometer way of [message #276121 is a reply to message #276115] Sat, 18 April 2015 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is also a good Chart on tire size vs ration.

http://www.gmceast.com/technical/Brown_Drive_Tire_Ratios.pdf

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> On Apr 18, 2015, at 2:09 AM, Carl wrote:
>
> Tire size and gear ratio will affect the speedo.
>
> 12% sounds like the gear ratio may have been changed.
>
> There are adapters that will correct the accuracy.
>
> Here us a link for tire size conversion:
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/tires.html
>
>
>
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Re: Speedo and odometer way of [message #276124 is a reply to message #276117] Sat, 18 April 2015 08:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Appie,

If the speedometer and the odometer seem to agree and both are 12% higher than TomTom, then I bet you actually have a 3.41 final drive and someone took out the correcting gear box.

Stay with the 3.41. It is closer to what you want than the OE 3.07 ever was. I think JimK can supply a gear box that will correct the original instruments.

Matt

appie wrote on Sat, 18 April 2015 05:07
Thanks for the replys. Forgpt to write tiresize 225x75x16. Alcoas
Was wondering about the fd. But seems to be the original 3.07?

Peer good you did not meet the cobblestones, but then you are meeting all these interesting people. Wish I could have same pf these to do my steering.

Happy trails



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Re: Speedo and odometer way of [message #276134 is a reply to message #276114] Sat, 18 April 2015 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Haven't seen cobblestones since I lived in New York City. The Boston post rd comes to mind.

Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook
Re: Speedo and odometer way of [message #276136 is a reply to message #276114] Sat, 18 April 2015 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They both are 12% LOWER then TomTom. Like 50 mh is 56 on Tom. Same with the odometer. 100 miles will be 112 on The dashboard app

Appie eleganza 76 "Olga" now sadly sold 6 wheel discbrake Quadrabags Springfield stage 2 462 olds Manny tranny ( pictures at http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6489-olga.html Fulltiming in Europe july 2014 til july 2016 Denmark
Re: [GMCnet] Speedo and odometer way of [message #276150 is a reply to message #276116] Sat, 18 April 2015 16:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Peer Oliver Schmidt wrote on Sat, 18 April 2015 00:11
Not helpful, but I found the speedometer on my GMC to be off as well, by
around 4-5mph.

Luckily, we did not experience any cobblestone while touring
VA,NC,MA,PA,WV Very Happy

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I found the same as Peer. Mine is off about 3 with the original 3.07 final drive. Perhaps it is tires, although I got the size (16") that the experts assured us were the same diameter. For a short time I had a 3.55 final drive with the converter. Still off. Then I had a 2.73 for a shorter time. Bought a converter... Still off. Now I have a 3.21 with the special 3.21 metal gear and yup... still off.

TomTom says the speed is off and mileage is off. Mile markers say mileage is off. I think maybe it is off.


'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
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Re: [GMCnet] Speedo and odometer way of [message #276153 is a reply to message #276150] Sat, 18 April 2015 17:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

I think the question should be; "What is the manufacturing tolerance for a GMC speedometer?"

If your speedo is off by 5 mph at highway speeds it is highly unlikely that you will ever get a speeding ticket.

The speedo in Double Trouble was off in comparison to the Tom Tom until I replaced the 3.07 with a 3.21 now its spot on.

Frankly if you are really concerned with this have it calibrated, there are shops that specialize in doing that.

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Re: [GMCnet] Speedo and odometer way of [message #276155 is a reply to message #276153] Sat, 18 April 2015 17:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am 19.04.2015 um 00:36 schrieb Robert Mueller:
> G'day,
>
> I think the question should be; "What is the manufacturing tolerance for a GMC speedometer?"
>
> If your speedo is off by 5 mph at highway speeds it is highly unlikely that you will ever get a speeding ticket.
>

The problem could be, that it is off the wrong way. ie. I drive faster
than it shows. And *if* I were like the average driver I come to notice
in the US, I would be able to plaster the whole interior of my GMC with
speeding tickets :*)

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Re: Speedo and odometer way of [message #276156 is a reply to message #276114] Sat, 18 April 2015 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you have 2.73 gears installed instead of the standard 3.07 your speedometer will be reading 50 mph when you are going 56.23mph. Some folks have installed a 'new' final drive and ended up with a 2.73 ratio from a car.

Dave Mumert


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Re: [GMCnet] Speedo and odometer way of [message #276157 is a reply to message #276155] Sat, 18 April 2015 18:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Peer,

It has been my experience in the USA you are unlikely to get stopped for speeding as long as:

1) you are moving with the traffic and all the traffic is going faster than the speed limit

2) you are 10 mph or less above the speed limit - since you know your speedo is 4-5 mph low you only have 4 mph to "spare."

I drive Double Trouble at the speed limit no matter what it is, so far the highest I've run into is 75 mph. I've noted that with the
3.21 to 1 final drive it LOVES 70 mph. The highest speed I have ever gotten it up to is 86 mph. With all crap on the roof the
coefficent of drag is nowhere near the 0.30 of the wind tunnel test.

Be careful on the highways in the USA people don't drive as well as the do on the Autobahn!

Regards,
Rob M.

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The problem could be, that it is off the wrong way. ie. I drive faster
than it shows. And *if* I were like the average driver I come to notice
in the US, I would be able to plaster the whole interior of my GMC with
speeding tickets :*)

Best regards

Peer

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Re: [GMCnet] Speedo and odometer way of [message #276158 is a reply to message #276157] Sat, 18 April 2015 18:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Rob,

they drive different on the Interstate than on the Autobahn.

I wouldn't be able to quantify it as better or worse, as it is a
different situation. On the Autobahn it is common to expect speed
differences of 100+km/h, in the US, everybody drives a similar speed.

Well, except that stupid German that only goes just below the speed
limit in his history vehicle :D

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Re: [GMCnet] Speedo and odometer way of [message #276159 is a reply to message #276158] Sat, 18 April 2015 18:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Peer,

Yes, I have driven on the Autobahn many times. Drivers are much more "disciplined." After all for the most part the are Germans! ;-)

You stay out of the left lane unless you are REALLY moving! If you are in the left lane and a vehicle approaches from behind and
flashes their lights GET THE HELL out of the lane because they are going a hell of lot faster than you are. In the USA it is not
uncommon for drivers to sit in the left lane and do the speed limit because "THIS IS MY LANE AND AS LONG AS I DO THE SPEED LIMIT TO
HELL WITH ANYBODY ELSE!"

I am going to disagree with "everybody drives a similar speed" as far as Texas goes, in Houston anyway. It is not uncommon for
people in the left lane to be going 15+ mph above the speed limit and the right lane to be at or below the speed limit.

Regards,
Rob M.
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Rob,

they drive different on the Interstate than on the Autobahn.

I wouldn't be able to quantify it as better or worse, as it is a
different situation. On the Autobahn it is common to expect speed
differences of 100+km/h, in the US, everybody drives a similar speed.

Well, except that stupid German that only goes just below the speed
limit in his history vehicle :D

Best regards

Peer

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Re: [GMCnet] Speedo and odometer way of [message #276162 is a reply to message #276159] Sat, 18 April 2015 18:43 Go to previous message
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Rob
Your description of the Autobahn brings back pleasant memories of the left
lane and a Saab turbo ....Hmmm, I wonder if it could be made to fit a GMC
?
Mike

On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Robert Mueller
wrote:

> Peer,
>
> Yes, I have driven on the Autobahn many times. Drivers are much more
> "disciplined." After all for the most part the are Germans! ;-)
>
> You stay out of the left lane unless you are REALLY moving! If you are in
> the left lane and a vehicle approaches from behind and
> flashes their lights GET THE HELL out of the lane because they are going a
> hell of lot faster than you are. In the USA it is not
> uncommon for drivers to sit in the left lane and do the speed limit
> because "THIS IS MY LANE AND AS LONG AS I DO THE SPEED LIMIT TO
> HELL WITH ANYBODY ELSE!"
>
> I am going to disagree with "everybody drives a similar speed" as far as
> Texas goes, in Houston anyway. It is not uncommon for
> people in the left lane to be going 15+ mph above the speed limit and the
> right lane to be at or below the speed limit.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic
>
>
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> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Peer
> Oliver Schmidt GMC
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> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Speedo and odometer way of
>
> Rob,
>
> they drive different on the Interstate than on the Autobahn.
>
> I wouldn't be able to quantify it as better or worse, as it is a
> different situation. On the Autobahn it is common to expect speed
> differences of 100+km/h, in the US, everybody drives a similar speed.
>
> Well, except that stupid German that only goes just below the speed
> limit in his history vehicle :D
>
> Best regards
>
> Peer
>
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