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| [GMCnet] I'd like your thoughts about a GMC I'm looking at. [message #276036] |
Fri, 17 April 2015 09:30  |
Ronald Pottol
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It's a 1973, and it's been parked the last 8 years, though the owner (who
has 3 of them) has started it periodically, and it starts immediately, and
seems to run good (as far as can be told without driving it), I have put it
in D and R, and it does push agaisnt the chocks. The interior is either
good enough, or missing (no couch or dinet up front, and bare hardwood for
a floor, fridge likely bad), needs new tires, and a full maintence cycle
(lube all bearings, change brake fluid, engine & transmission, etc). And
I'll probably put Sully bags on it as soon as I can.
It has just over 50k miles, and his asking price is $2600, which strikes me
as either fair, or a touch high. If it goes three years without major work,
I'd be fairly happy. No, I'm not going to gut it, I'm going to use it, and
fix up one thing at a time, I already have a couch/bunk to install (well, I
need the bottom part, I have the back and belts).
Thanks,
Ron
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| Re: [GMCnet] I'd like your thoughts about a GMC I'm looking at. [message #276039 is a reply to message #276036] |
Fri, 17 April 2015 10:03  |
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Do you really believe that in 42 years it has only gone 50K miles?
It likely has at least 150K and possibly 250K. The odometer starts at 0 after 100K.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Apr 17, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Ronald Pottol wrote:
>
> It's a 1973, and it's been parked the last 8 years, though the owner (who
> has 3 of them) has started it periodically, and it starts immediately, and
> seems to run good (as far as can be told without driving it), I have put it
> in D and R, and it does push agaisnt the chocks. The interior is either
> good enough, or missing (no couch or dinet up front, and bare hardwood for
> a floor, fridge likely bad), needs new tires, and a full maintence cycle
> (lube all bearings, change brake fluid, engine & transmission, etc). And
> I'll probably put Sully bags on it as soon as I can.
>
> It has just over 50k miles, and his asking price is $2600, which strikes me
> as either fair, or a touch high. If it goes three years without major work,
> I'd be fairly happy. No, I'm not going to gut it, I'm going to use it, and
> fix up one thing at a time, I already have a couch/bunk to install (well, I
> need the bottom part, I have the back and belts).
>
> Thanks,
> Ron
>
> --
> Plato seems wrong to me today.
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| Re: [GMCnet] I'd like your thoughts about a GMC I'm looking at. [message #276041 is a reply to message #276039] |
Fri, 17 April 2015 10:36 |
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Would a carfax report on the VIN give useful information as to actual milage....assuming at some honest
owners?
We found it useful when buying cars for our kids but we were not looking at anything older than the late 1990s........
Pete
emerystora wrote on Fri, 17 April 2015 10:03Do you really believe that in 42 years it has only gone 50K miles?
It likely has at least 150K and possibly 250K. The odometer starts at 0 after 100K.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Frederick, CO
> On Apr 17, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Ronald Pottol wrote:
>
> It's a 1973, and it's been parked the last 8 years, though the owner (who
> has 3 of them) has started it periodically, and it starts immediately, and
> seems to run good (as far as can be told without driving it), I have put it
> in D and R, and it does push agaisnt the chocks. The interior is either
> good enough, or missing (no couch or dinet up front, and bare hardwood for
> a floor, fridge likely bad), needs new tires, and a full maintence cycle
> (lube all bearings, change brake fluid, engine & transmission, etc). And
> I'll probably put Sully bags on it as soon as I can.
>
> It has just over 50k miles, and his asking price is $2600, which strikes me
> as either fair, or a touch high. If it goes three years without major work,
> I'd be fairly happy. No, I'm not going to gut it, I'm going to use it, and
> fix up one thing at a time, I already have a couch/bunk to install (well, I
> need the bottom part, I have the back and belts).
>
> Thanks,
> Ron
>
> --
> Plato seems wrong to me today.
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| Re: [GMCnet] I'd like your thoughts about a GMC I'm looking at. [message #276043 is a reply to message #276041] |
Fri, 17 April 2015 10:44 |
Daniel DeLuca
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Pete,
I am not sure about the carfax but I think records are the only way to be sure. No body believes my coach has 13,500 miles, but I have the original owners maintenance records from 78 to 07. (he hand wrote 2 copies of all the letters he ever sent to GM or cinnabar) If the owner was lying about the millage it sure was a long con. Without any records you are just going to have to judge based on condition.
Dan
> On Apr 17, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Pete Smith wrote:
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> Would a carfax report on the VIN give useful information as to actual milage....assuming at some honest
> owners?
> We found it useful when buying cars for our kids but we were not looking at anything older than the late 1990s........
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> Pete
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> emerystora wrote on Fri, 17 April 2015 10:03
>> Do you really believe that in 42 years it has only gone 50K miles?
>>
>> It likely has at least 150K and possibly 250K. The odometer starts at 0 after 100K.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
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>>> On Apr 17, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Ronald Pottol wrote:
>>>
>>> It's a 1973, and it's been parked the last 8 years, though the owner (who
>>> has 3 of them) has started it periodically, and it starts immediately, and
>>> seems to run good (as far as can be told without driving it), I have put it
>>> in D and R, and it does push agaisnt the chocks. The interior is either
>>> good enough, or missing (no couch or dinet up front, and bare hardwood for
>>> a floor, fridge likely bad), needs new tires, and a full maintence cycle
>>> (lube all bearings, change brake fluid, engine & transmission, etc). And
>>> I'll probably put Sully bags on it as soon as I can.
>>>
>>> It has just over 50k miles, and his asking price is $2600, which strikes me
>>> as either fair, or a touch high. If it goes three years without major work,
>>> I'd be fairly happy. No, I'm not going to gut it, I'm going to use it, and
>>> fix up one thing at a time, I already have a couch/bunk to install (well, I
>>> need the bottom part, I have the back and belts).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> --
>>> Plato seems wrong to me today.
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| Re: [GMCnet] I'd like your thoughts about a GMC I'm looking at. [message #276044 is a reply to message #276041] |
Fri, 17 April 2015 10:44 |
powwerjon
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I doubt that Carfax would have any into on the coach as it has been off the road for so many years.
J.R. Wright
30' Buskirk Stretch
Michigan
On Location in St Louis, MO
> On Apr 17, 2015, at 10:36 AM, Pete Smith wrote:
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> Would a carfax report on the VIN give useful information as to actual milage....assuming at some honest
> owners?
> We found it useful when buying cars for our kids but we were not looking at anything older than the late 1990s........
>
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> Pete
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> emerystora wrote on Fri, 17 April 2015 10:03
>> Do you really believe that in 42 years it has only gone 50K miles?
>>
>> It likely has at least 150K and possibly 250K. The odometer starts at 0 after 100K.
>>
>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Frederick, CO
>>
>>> On Apr 17, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Ronald Pottol wrote:
>>>
>>> It's a 1973, and it's been parked the last 8 years, though the owner (who
>>> has 3 of them) has started it periodically, and it starts immediately, and
>>> seems to run good (as far as can be told without driving it), I have put it
>>> in D and R, and it does push agaisnt the chocks. The interior is either
>>> good enough, or missing (no couch or dinet up front, and bare hardwood for
>>> a floor, fridge likely bad), needs new tires, and a full maintence cycle
>>> (lube all bearings, change brake fluid, engine & transmission, etc). And
>>> I'll probably put Sully bags on it as soon as I can.
>>>
>>> It has just over 50k miles, and his asking price is $2600, which strikes me
>>> as either fair, or a touch high. If it goes three years without major work,
>>> I'd be fairly happy. No, I'm not going to gut it, I'm going to use it, and
>>> fix up one thing at a time, I already have a couch/bunk to install (well, I
>>> need the bottom part, I have the back and belts).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> --
>>> Plato seems wrong to me today.
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| Re: [GMCnet] I'd like your thoughts about a GMC I'm looking at. [message #276046 is a reply to message #276039] |
Fri, 17 April 2015 10:53 |
Ronald Pottol
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Well, the petals look a little used, I think the seats are original (or
were they just cheap about recovering?), I find that plausible, but I do
see your point. The Onan has low hours too. The cabinets and such I think
are original, and not beat up. Rear seats look good.
Motor would have had to have been rebuilt if it has 150k miles, it doesn't
smoke. Could get a Carfax on it.
Plato seems wrong to me today
On Apr 17, 2015 8:03 AM, "Emery Stora" wrote:
> Do you really believe that in 42 years it has only gone 50K miles?
>
> It likely has at least 150K and possibly 250K. The odometer starts at 0
> after 100K.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Frederick, CO
>
>> On Apr 17, 2015, at 8:30 AM, Ronald Pottol
> wrote:
>>
>> It's a 1973, and it's been parked the last 8 years, though the owner (who
>> has 3 of them) has started it periodically, and it starts immediately,
> and
>> seems to run good (as far as can be told without driving it), I have put
> it
>> in D and R, and it does push agaisnt the chocks. The interior is either
>> good enough, or missing (no couch or dinet up front, and bare hardwood
> for
>> a floor, fridge likely bad), needs new tires, and a full maintence cycle
>> (lube all bearings, change brake fluid, engine & transmission, etc). And
>> I'll probably put Sully bags on it as soon as I can.
>>
>> It has just over 50k miles, and his asking price is $2600, which strikes
> me
>> as either fair, or a touch high. If it goes three years without major
> work,
>> I'd be fairly happy. No, I'm not going to gut it, I'm going to use it,
> and
>> fix up one thing at a time, I already have a couch/bunk to install
> (well, I
>> need the bottom part, I have the back and belts).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ron
>>
>> --
>> Plato seems wrong to me today.
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| Re: [GMCnet] I'd like your thoughts about a GMC I'm looking at. [message #276047 is a reply to message #276036] |
Fri, 17 April 2015 11:07 |
Dennis S
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Ron
The price, $2600, seems reasonable for what you have described.
Perhaps make any deal contingent upon it driving and shifting to your satisfaction.
Dennis
Ronald Pottol wrote on Fri, 17 April 2015 09:30It's a 1973, and it's been parked the last 8 years, though the owner (who
has 3 of them) has started it periodically, and it starts immediately, and
seems to run good (as far as can be told without driving it), I have put it
in D and R, and it does push agaisnt the chocks. The interior is either
good enough, or missing (no couch or dinet up front, and bare hardwood for
a floor, fridge likely bad), needs new tires, and a full maintence cycle
(lube all bearings, change brake fluid, engine & transmission, etc). And
I'll probably put Sully bags on it as soon as I can.
It has just over 50k miles, and his asking price is $2600, which strikes me
as either fair, or a touch high. If it goes three years without major work,
I'd be fairly happy. No, I'm not going to gut it, I'm going to use it, and
fix up one thing at a time, I already have a couch/bunk to install (well, I
need the bottom part, I have the back and belts).
Thanks,
Ron
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| Re: [GMCnet] I'd like your thoughts about a GMC I'm looking at. [message #276056 is a reply to message #276036] |
Fri, 17 April 2015 11:42 |
lqqkatjon
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That I do not think is too far off. if you do the work yourself, a few thousand in parts could get you a relaible coach if the engine/tranny do not blow up. And even if they do, you can build alot of coach from that starting point.
2600, should mean that you should not have to paint it. Frame is not rotted out, or bogies and pins shot. windows are all OK, and usable.
If you start out by putting new tires on it, new brakes and fuel lines. the coach will get you to a campsite and back for next 5-7 years, you will be OK. any coach can still have an engine/tranny go south. and will should need new tires in the next 5-7 years as well.
Also not sure where you live, that has an effect on what a coach is worth.
Jon Roche
75 palm beach
EBL EFI, manny headers, Micro Level, rebuilt most of coach now.
St. Cloud, MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] I'd like your thoughts about a GMC I'm looking at. [message #276057 is a reply to message #276047] |
Fri, 17 April 2015 11:54 |
dwayne jacobson[1]
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Being a 73 - check the AC dash air and the Leveling system. Check the
tires for dates.
Check your bank account and or limit on your Credit Card.
Dwayne
77 Kingsley
White Rock, BC
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Dennis Sexton wrote:
> Ron
> The price, $2600, seems reasonable for what you have described.
> Perhaps make any deal contingent upon it driving and shifting to your
> satisfaction.
>
> Dennis
>
> Ronald Pottol wrote on Fri, 17 April 2015 09:30
>> It's a 1973, and it's been parked the last 8 years, though the owner (who
>> has 3 of them) has started it periodically, and it starts immediately,
> and
>> seems to run good (as far as can be told without driving it), I have put
> it
>> in D and R, and it does push agaisnt the chocks. The interior is either
>> good enough, or missing (no couch or dinet up front, and bare hardwood
> for
>> a floor, fridge likely bad), needs new tires, and a full maintence cycle
>> (lube all bearings, change brake fluid, engine & transmission, etc). And
>> I'll probably put Sully bags on it as soon as I can.
>>
>> It has just over 50k miles, and his asking price is $2600, which strikes
> me
>> as either fair, or a touch high. If it goes three years without major
> work,
>> I'd be fairly happy. No, I'm not going to gut it, I'm going to use it,
> and
>> fix up one thing at a time, I already have a couch/bunk to install
> (well, I
>> need the bottom part, I have the back and belts).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ron
>>
>> --
>> Plato seems wrong to me today.
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> 73 Painted Desert 230
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| Re: [GMCnet] I'd like your thoughts about a GMC I'm looking at. [message #276066 is a reply to message #276036] |
Fri, 17 April 2015 12:32 |
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Pedal wear is a tipoff - worn edge on the brake pedal indicates 100K plus miles. Which isn't a dealbreaker. Offer him 2 Large in Yankee money, contigent on running and shifting properly, and try to hit 2300 tops, just so you can say you got a concession  If you've time and a tester, warm the engine, pull the sparking plugs, and compression test. If none are grossly out of line from the others, and it holds decent oil pressure (Use a mechanical guage, the supplied ones are notorious for being inaccurate over time)idling hot and at 2K rpm or so, go for it. Tires, fuel lines, brake rebuild, and you're ready to camp. Spend the next 10 - 15K over time in bits and pieces as needed, instead of all at once.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: [GMCnet] I'd like your thoughts about a GMC I'm looking at. [message #276067 is a reply to message #276036] |
Fri, 17 April 2015 12:34 |
jhbridges
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Oh, and remember... you're getting a 43 year old truck that's been parked and a 43 year old vacant house. There will be gremlins here and there.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: [GMCnet] I'd like your thoughts about a GMC I'm looking at. [message #276068 is a reply to message #276066] |
Fri, 17 April 2015 12:38 |
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I think there are exceptions. Some of us old school drivers were taught to slow down before you get there, time your red lights and keep rolling. Take Off slow and don't use the clutch. I know of a lot of million mile trucks with original clutch and very little wear on the brake pedal.
Johnny Bridges wrote on Fri, 17 April 2015 13:32Pedal wear is a tipoff - worn edge on the brake pedal indicates 100K plus miles. Which isn't a dealbreaker. Offer him 2 Large in Yankee money, contigent on running and shifting properly, and try to hit 2300 tops, just so you can say you got a concession If you've time and a tester, warm the engine, pull the sparking plugs, and compression test. If none are grossly out of line from the others, and it holds decent oil pressure (Use a mechanical guage, the supplied ones are notorious for being inaccurate over time)idling hot and at 2K rpm or so, go for it. Tires, fuel lines, brake rebuild, and you're ready to camp. Spend the next 10 - 15K over time in bits and pieces as needed, instead of all at once.
--johnny
C. Boyd
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East Tennessee
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| Re: [GMCnet] I'd like your thoughts about a GMC I'm looking at. [message #276070 is a reply to message #276036] |
Fri, 17 April 2015 12:50 |
jhbridges
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True dat - but if there >is< wear, it's a giveaway. Which is how I interpreted his post.
As an aside, the turn signal stalk I got from you works flawlessly. Thanks!
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
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| Re: [GMCnet] I'd like your thoughts about a GMC I'm looking at. [message #276072 is a reply to message #276070] |
Fri, 17 April 2015 13:31 |
Keith V
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One thing....cause I got burnt by this.
Start it and drive it till it gets hot.
After you get back, do not shut it off, let it idle, look for leaks, drips, smoke.
Listen that the engine runs smooth with no funny sounds.
If you can't drive it, It's not worth 2000.
If the tires are bad, tell him to put useable ones on and then you will talk.
the coach should drive like a big fat van and steer with one hand.
If it's all over the road, it has more than 50k miles on it and will take $$$ to drive straight
watch the owner, see if he gets nervous about anything.
Also;
Pressurize the water system.
Check the leveling system, put it all the way down, all the way up and at travel.
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
ask me about MicroLevel
Cell, 763-732-3419
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| Re: [GMCnet] I'd like your thoughts about a GMC I'm looking at. [message #276075 is a reply to message #276072] |
Fri, 17 April 2015 13:51 |
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Pete
Where ever you live ???? (no signature info), check the Black List for
people in the area...someone will know something about it.
Read what Chuck wrote.!!!
It is my opinion that there are NO GMC's with less that 100,000 miles . If
Daniel DeLuca has the paperwork, then he has the only one ! If a 73 has
less that 100,000, let's say 99,999 divided by 42, that's less than 2400 a
year... Yes there must be a lot of them out there . Sorry, not buying that
package.
Mike in NS
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Keith V wrote:
> One thing....cause I got burnt by this.
> Start it and drive it till it gets hot.
> After you get back, do not shut it off, let it idle, look for leaks,
> drips, smoke.
> Listen that the engine runs smooth with no funny sounds.
>
> If you can't drive it, It's not worth 2000.
> If the tires are bad, tell him to put useable ones on and then you will
> talk.
> the coach should drive like a big fat van and steer with one hand.
> If it's all over the road, it has more than 50k miles on it and will take
> $$$ to drive straight
>
>
> watch the owner, see if he gets nervous about anything.
>
> Also;
>
> Pressurize the water system.
>
> Check the leveling system, put it all the way down, all the way up and at
> travel.
> --
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> Mounds View. MN
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| Re: [GMCnet] I'd like your thoughts about a GMC I'm looking at. [message #276090 is a reply to message #276089] |
Fri, 17 April 2015 17:09 |
Joe Weir
Messages: 769
Registered: February 2013
Location: Columbia, SC
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I found this photo essay on brake pedal wear and mileage to be useful:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4794-brake-pedals-and-mileage.html
By this standard, The wicked mistress™ may be on her third, or maybe fourth, trip around the block. Oh if I had only known...
76 Birchaven - "Wicked Mistress" - New engine, trans, alum radiator, brakes, Sully airbags, fuel lines, seats, adult beverage center... those Coachmen guys were really thinking about us second hand owners by including that beverage center...
Columbia, SC.
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| Re: [GMCnet] I'd like your thoughts about a GMC I'm looking at. [message #276091 is a reply to message #276036] |
Fri, 17 April 2015 17:15 |
kerry pinkerton
Messages: 2565
Registered: July 2012
Location: Harvest, Al
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I believe my 77 Eleganza had 56K when I bought it. Pedal wear was the tipoff. The POs used it a fair amount but dry camped around Nashville mainly. Drove it to Panama City a few times. They bought it from the original owners, an older couple somewhere in west Georgia and were told that they used it regularity but rarely went far.
When I tore the engine down it confirmed the low mileage. NO ridge ring and no wear except on the couple connecting rod bearings where the anti-freeze broke down the oil.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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