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Pre bent SS Fuel line [message #275976]

Thu, 16 April 2015 12:21

Tony Cook

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Looking to replace my rusty hard fuel line along front cross member and drivers side frame rail. I looked on Applied and dont seem to see are these made or is this somthing we would just make up ourselves and if so what is the preferred material. Also want to replace Tranny lines as well .Thanks Tony

Tony Cook 77' Kingsley ' SuperSession 77 ' Torrance Beach,CA

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Re: [GMCnet] Pre bent SS Fuel line [message #275977 is a reply to message #275976]

Thu, 16 April 2015 13:09

ljdavick

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Others have reported great success with Polyarmour. It is corrosion resistant and easily bendable. I believe it’s widely available, Napa, and so on.

Larry Davick
A Mystery Machine
1976(ish) Palm Beach
Fremont, CA

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Re: [GMCnet] Pre bent SS Fuel line [message #275982 is a reply to message #275977]

Thu, 16 April 2015 15:43

Jp Benson

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There is no one size fits all. Too many variations to list with different electric pumps, flex vs. steel hoses etc. etc. Classic Tube listed a SS replacement for the factory steel line in the front clip. They advertised a different diameter and wouldn't send a pic so I didn't buy. Made my own with PolyArmour.

JP

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Re: [GMCnet] Pre bent SS Fuel line [message #275983 is a reply to message #275976]

Thu, 16 April 2015 16:58

USAussie

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Tony,

They're ALL rusty!

In my opinion if they are not leaking don't fix them.

3/8" OD tranny lines are available from:

http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/717

Stainless Steel tranny lines are available from:

http://www.grandviewmotorhome.com/index.html

Note that Tom does not list the SS tranny lines on his website, however, I am pretty sure he has them. Give him a call and tell him
I sent you. If I'm incorrect let us know.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Cook

Looking to replace my rusty hard fuel line along front cross member and drivers side frame rail. I looked on Applied and dont seem
to see are these made or is this somthing we would just make up ourselves and if so what is the preferred material. Also want to
replace Tranny lines as well .Thanks
Tony

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Re: [GMCnet] Pre bent SS Fuel line [message #275986 is a reply to message #275976]

Thu, 16 April 2015 18:35

USAussie

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Oops!

I have been advised by a fellow GMCer OFF NET that Tom Hampton does not ship his transmission lines.

Regards,
Rob

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From: Robert Mueller
Tony,

They're ALL rusty!

In my opinion if they are not leaking don't fix them.

3/8" OD tranny lines are available from:

http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/717

Stainless Steel tranny lines are available from:

http://www.grandviewmotorhome.com/index.html

Note that Tom does not list the SS tranny lines on his website, however, I am pretty sure he has them. Give him a call and tell him
I sent you. If I'm incorrect let us know.

Regards,
Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Cook

Looking to replace my rusty hard fuel line along front cross member and drivers side frame rail. I looked on Applied and dont seem
to see are these made or is this somthing we would just make up ourselves and if so what is the preferred material. Also want to
replace Tranny lines as well .Thanks
Tony

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Re: Pre bent SS Fuel line [message #275990 is a reply to message #275976]

Thu, 16 April 2015 19:01

Tony Cook

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Yes i looked into Tom and he doesn't ship the Tranny lines . I am in the middle of replacing all of my rusty brake lines with SS from Classic Tube and BTW i did run into a snag with them the drivers side rear line going into the wheel well area too short so i sent that one back with my original hopefully they correct that one. But since i did go with the " if it aint broke " theory and had total catastrophic brake failure when the rusty brake lines popped and metering valve was apparently not working the fronts i figured maybe replace rusty hard fuel line and Tranny line's just a thought Lol!

Tony Cook 77' Kingsley ' SuperSession 77 ' Torrance Beach,CA

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Re: [GMCnet] Pre bent SS Fuel line [message #275991 is a reply to message #275990]

Thu, 16 April 2015 19:28

USAussie

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Tony,

In your message you only mentioned the fuel lines and transmission lines you did not mention the brake lines. THERE IS NO WAY I
WOULD SUGGEST ANYONE TO WAIT UNTIL THEY HAD A FAILURE OF RUSTY BRAKE LINES TO REPLACE THEM!

As a matter of fact when I bought Double Trouble Ken Frey checked the brake lines and replaced sections that were rusted before I
picked it up.

At the end of our tour that year I drove over to the Coop and completely rebuilt the brake system with:

1) Sensitized booster from JimB
2) Brass combination valve
3) Stainless steel brake lines from Classic tube (I had the same problem you did which is why is direct people to Tom)
4) New disks and rebuilt 80 mm calipers on the front wheels
5) Rebuilt 80 mm calipers on the middle wheels
6) Rebuilt wheel cylinders on the rear wheels
7) Carbon metallic pads and shoes

The P-3 master cylinder had been replaced when it failed (through no fault of Ken) halfway through our tour.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Cook

Yes I looked into Tom and he doesn't ship the Tranny lines . I am in the middle of replacing all of my rusty brake lines with SS
from Classic Tube and BTW I did run into a snag with them the drivers side rear line going into the wheel well area too short so i
sent that one back with my original hopefully they correct that one. But since i did go with the " if it aint broke " theory and had
total catastrophic brake failure when the rusty brake lines popped and metering valve was apparently not working the fronts i
figured maybe replace rusty hard fuel line and Tranny line's just a thought
Lol!
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Tony

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Re: Pre bent SS Fuel line [message #275994 is a reply to message #275976]

Thu, 16 April 2015 19:53

Tony Cook

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I hear ya just thought i would share in case someone is on the fence about brake lines. I to scabbed in a few hard lines that were what i thought then to be a problem but now knowing what i know if there is one bad line then safe to say all are bad and change them no disrespect just wanted to throw that out there. Thanks Robert all the info you guys give is very much appreciated. Tony

Tony Cook 77' Kingsley ' SuperSession 77 ' Torrance Beach,CA

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Re: [GMCnet] Pre bent SS Fuel line [message #275997 is a reply to message #275994]

Thu, 16 April 2015 20:23

USAussie

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Tony,

I took no offense taken.

I SHOUTED because as I wanted to make it abundantly clear that far as I'm concerned the brake system is the MOST important system on
a GMC, followed by the steering, suspension, and drive train.

That's the rebuild sequence I followed on Double Trouble and The Blue Streak.

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Cook

I hear ya just thought i would share in case someone is on the fence about brake lines. I to scabbed in a few hard lines that were
what i thought then to be a problem but now knowing what i know if there is one bad line then safe to say all are bad and change
them no disrespect just wanted to throw that out there. Thanks Robert all the info you guys give is very much appreciated. Tony
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Re: Pre bent SS Fuel line [message #275998 is a reply to message #275976]

Thu, 16 April 2015 20:37

Joe Weir

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I got my stainless transmission lines from JimK. My only complaint is that he decided to set up shop on the other coast. UPS loves me.

I thought my hard brakes lines were fine. I rubbed the dirt off one when cleaning up frame while the fuel tanks were out. It started weeping...then I started weeping.

I used polyarmor. Shopping list here:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/mechanical/p54563-new-polyarmor-to-the-combo-valve.html

Tony Cook wrote on Thu, 16 April 2015 12:21

Looking to replace my rusty hard fuel line along front cross member and drivers side frame rail. I looked on Applied and dont seem to see are these made or is this somthing we would just make up ourselves and if so what is the preferred material. Also want to replace Tranny lines as well .Thanks Tony

76 Birchaven - "Wicked Mistress" - New engine, trans, alum radiator, brakes, Sully airbags, fuel lines, seats, adult beverage center... those Coachmen guys were really thinking about us second hand owners by including that beverage center... Columbia, SC.

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Re: Pre bent SS Fuel line [message #276034 is a reply to message #275976]

Fri, 17 April 2015 09:00

Tony Cook

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Thanks guys

Tony Cook 77' Kingsley ' SuperSession 77 ' Torrance Beach,CA

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Re: Pre bent SS Fuel line [message #276040 is a reply to message #275976]

Fri, 17 April 2015 10:27

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Tony Cook wrote on Thu, 16 April 2015 12:21

Looking to replace my rusty hard fuel line along front cross member and drivers side frame rail. I looked on Applied and dont seem to see are these made or is this somthing we would just make up ourselves and if so what is the preferred material. Also want to replace Tranny lines as well .Thanks Tony

I used Cunifer (copper nickel)brake tubing when I built my Ginetta G30 back in the late 80s in the UK. I found it really easy to work with and it gave me no problem in the 10 years I owned the car.
Comes in nice long rolls, bends fairly easily and I found the flaring tool easy to use.

http://www.brakeconnect.com/cunifer-brake-line
http://www.fedhillusa.com/

It was the #1 choice in the UK back then and seems to be available in the US in the sizes needed.

Pete

Cary, NC 1978 Center Kitchen Royale.

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Re: Pre bent SS Fuel line [message #276097 is a reply to message #275976]

Fri, 17 April 2015 18:35

Tony Cook

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Nice !Thanks

Tony Cook 77' Kingsley ' SuperSession 77 ' Torrance Beach,CA

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