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USAussie
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G'day,
I have posted 21 photographs of the SeaFlo Macerator I recently purchased. I don't have the time right now to add comments under
each photo, however, if you compare it to the Jabsco Macerator I have posted I think you will find that is as good a unit if not
BETTER!
SeaFlo: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6769-seaflo-macerator.html
Jabsco: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6005-macerator-innards.html
Unfortunately the other macerator I have here in Sydney is not a Jabsco so there's no point in tearing it down to a side by side
comparison; that will have to wait until I get back to the USA this fall.
Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic & Lunar Nut Case
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
PS - Bob tearing this unit down "for the hell of it" qualifies as something a Lunar Nut Case would do! ;-)
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| Re: [GMCnet] SeaFlo Macerator Teardown Photos [message #275468 is a reply to message #275456] |
Wed, 08 April 2015 21:13  |
Ken Henderson
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Hey, Lunar Nut Case,
I never did see the part that would most concern me, performance-wise, for
the SeaFlo: the chopper blade.
Ken H.
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Robert Mueller
wrote:
> G'day,
>
> I have posted 21 photographs of the SeaFlo Macerator I recently purchased.
> I don't have the time right now to add comments under
> each photo, however, if you compare it to the Jabsco Macerator I have
> posted I think you will find that is as good a unit if not
> BETTER!
>
> SeaFlo: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6769-seaflo-macerator.html
>
> Jabsco: http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6005-macerator-innards.html
>
> Unfortunately the other macerator I have here in Sydney is not a Jabsco so
> there's no point in tearing it down to a side by side
> comparison; that will have to wait until I get back to the USA this fall.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> The Pedantic Mechanic & Lunar Nut Case
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> PS - Bob tearing this unit down "for the hell of it" qualifies as
> something a Lunar Nut Case would do! ;-)
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] SeaFlo Macerator Teardown Photos [message #275477 is a reply to message #275468] |
Thu, 09 April 2015 04:44 |
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USAussie
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Ken,
There is two of them and they are on either side of the armature shaft in this photo:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/seaflo-macerator/p57717-seaflo-1.html
They sit back to back and form an H kinda sorta, they are nasty little buggers which I'm sure will chop the s#!t up very well as
they are sharpened to a knife edge!
I'll start working on the comments tomorrow which will clarify a lot.
Regards,
Rob M.
LNC
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Henderson
Hey, Lunar Nut Case,
I never did see the part that would most concern me, performance-wise, for the SeaFlo: the chopper blade.
Ken H.
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'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] SeaFlo Macerator Teardown Photos [message #275482 is a reply to message #275477] |
Thu, 09 April 2015 08:08 |
Ken Henderson
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Nasty looking little boogers compared to the "paddles" in the Jabsco,
aren't they? But then, I've never overwhelmed those.
Ken H.
On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Robert Mueller
wrote:
> Ken,
>
> There is two of them and they are on either side of the armature shaft in
> this photo:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/seaflo-macerator/p57717-seaflo-1.html
>
> They sit back to back and form an H kinda sorta, they are nasty little
> buggers which I'm sure will chop the s#!t up very well as
> they are sharpened to a knife edge!
>
> I'll start working on the comments tomorrow which will clarify a lot.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] SeaFlo Macerator Teardown Photos [message #275487 is a reply to message #275456] |
Thu, 09 April 2015 08:28 |
Dolph Santorine
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Rob:
Are the parts interchangeable with the Jabsco macerator (in the best Chinese copy-cat tradition)?
It’s not short term memory - it’s the kid at Christmas in you coming back.
The next phase of this is playing with the box, and ignoring the contents!
Cheers!
Dolph
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
> On Apr 9, 2015, at 9:26 AM, Robert Mueller wrote:
>
> Espen,
>
> Thanks.
>
> Today I verified that the twist on flange of the macerator will fit current Valterra termination adapters like this:
>
> http://www.valterra.com/product/termination-adapter-3-bayonet-x-3-spigot/?pcat_id=1450
>
> Here's the funny bit, even though I had only taken it apart the day before I had trouble remembering how a couple of the bits went
> together. As THEY say; "the short term memory is the first to go!" :-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Espen Heitmann
>
> Great work Rob
>
> Can you also compare the twist on flange to other brands as it would be nice to know if anything else would be a direct fit ?
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| Re: [GMCnet] SeaFlo Macerator Teardown Photos [message #275488 is a reply to message #275456] |
Thu, 09 April 2015 08:38 |
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> the parts interchangeable with the Jabsco macerator
Miguel Mendez says they are on FB. I think he's talking about the same model.
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| Re: [GMCnet] SeaFlo Macerator Teardown Photos [message #275685 is a reply to message #275679] |
Sun, 12 April 2015 11:54 |
Ken Henderson
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WIth the repair kit alone for the Jabsco costing $50 from Amazon, the
SeaFlo sounds like a particularly good deal.
http://www.amazon.com/Jabsco-Self-Priming-Sealed-Macerator-Service/dp/B0000AY7W8
I'm about to install the long-held repair kit in my spare Jabsco; I'll
probably order a SeaFlo as the new spare.
I must say that i don't see any need for the "Quick Change Unit": A 3"
hose or rubber pipe coupling will attach to the "standard" version with a
hose clamp, making installation/change about as easy as "twist on/off",
with less likelihood of leaking. And a simple U-bracket with no need for
hinges will work since no twisting of the pump is necessary.
JMHO,
Ken H.
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Robert Mueller
wrote:
> Kerry,
>
> The reason I bought this macerator is because I think it will be possible
> to set it up as a "Quick Change Unit."
>
> The inlet is a QD as twists on, if you add a plug in connector the
> electrical connection is QD, and below is a side view of a
> bracket that could be easily made that the macerator could sit on and be
> held in place with screws with wing nuts.
>
> a = screws that go into underside of floor
>
> b = screws with wing nuts that hold macerator on to bracket
>
> x = hinges that allow the bracket to open and swing away from the bottom
> of the floor allowing the macerator to be twisted out and
> removed and a replacement twisted in.
>
> _a_x _a_
> | |
> | |
> | |
> |_b_____b_x
>
> I don't know if the "sketch" above will look the same when this email is
> sent and received.
>
> I bought if off eBay:
>
> Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/lmpn44b
>
> Full URL:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEAFLO-12V-Quick-Release-Macerator-Waste-Water-Pump-45-LPM-12GPM-Boat-RV-Marine-/191416119404?hash=item2c914
> a306c&vxp=mtr
>
> However, I paid $94.99 for it and as you and see now it is listed for
> $129.99
>
> I found the "standard" model on Amazon for $53!
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EC6XSHK/ref=gno_cart_title_0?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1R5RH6SRZN4Q4
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kerry Pinkerton
>
> Got a link to where you got it Rob? I might as well get this one for the
> Kingsley.
> --
> Kerry
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| Re: [GMCnet] SeaFlo Macerator Teardown Photos [message #275687 is a reply to message #275685] |
Sun, 12 April 2015 12:49 |
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The housing of the SeaFlo sure looks identical to the "Trac T10069". Right down to the little "dimple" between the label and the outlet.
http://www.amazon.ca/Trac-T10069-13-GPM-Macerator-Pump/dp/B00BKN8VYS
http://danardmarine.com/product-info.php?pid189.html
It appears like the same device. It looks like the housing is held on with 4 bolts - so it can be rotated for upside down mounting (like I've read will help). I may order the Trac (or two) and see how it is.
Rob
Victoria, BC
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath
On 2015-04-12, at 9:54 AM, Ken Henderson wrote:
> WIth the repair kit alone for the Jabsco costing $50 from Amazon, the
> SeaFlo sounds like a particularly good deal.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Jabsco-Self-Priming-Sealed-Macerator-Service/dp/B0000AY7W8
>
> I'm about to install the long-held repair kit in my spare Jabsco; I'll
> probably order a SeaFlo as the new spare.
>
> I must say that i don't see any need for the "Quick Change Unit": A 3"
> hose or rubber pipe coupling will attach to the "standard" version with a
> hose clamp, making installation/change about as easy as "twist on/off",
> with less likelihood of leaking. And a simple U-bracket with no need for
> hinges will work since no twisting of the pump is necessary.
>
> JMHO,
>
> Ken H.
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| Re: [GMCnet] SeaFlo Macerator Teardown Photos [message #275694 is a reply to message #275685] |
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Ken,
JimK has the Jabsco repair kits for $30.
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/1562
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Henderson
With the repair kit alone for the Jabsco costing $50 from Amazon, the
SeaFlo sounds like a particularly good deal.
http://www.amazon.com/Jabsco-Self-Priming-Sealed-Macerator-Service/dp/B0000AY7W8
I'm about to install the long-held repair kit in my spare Jabsco; I'll
probably order a SeaFlo as the new spare.
I must say that i don't see any need for the "Quick Change Unit": A 3"
hose or rubber pipe coupling will attach to the "standard" version with a
hose clamp, making installation/change about as easy as "twist on/off",
with less likelihood of leaking. And a simple U-bracket with no need for
hinges will work since no twisting of the pump is necessary.
JMHO,
Ken H.
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| Re: [GMCnet] SeaFlo Macerator Teardown Photos [message #275698 is a reply to message #275692] |
Sun, 12 April 2015 18:08 |
Rob
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Total cost won't be $24 more! Shipping and border fees kill most deals from Amazon.com on my side of the border... I do have a US shipping address, but it's a slow option, so I generally don't use it.
In this case - they won't ship the $53 SeaFlo to a Canadian address and if they would, shipping would be $15-$20 USD. Once a US shipment makes it here - there is minimally a $7 brokerage charge, plus tax (adding up to another $10-$15 USD).
From Amazon.ca - I can ship free and also have a tax exempt shipping address. So - $91 is what I pay...
If I wasn't on an island - it *may* be slightly cheaper to ship to a US border town and "smuggle" it across. But if a person was to follow the law, it should be declared at the border and taxes paid in that case, as well...
Crystal clear!
Rob
Victoria, BC
76 Royale - Rear Twins/Dry Bath
On 2015-04-12, at 3:08 PM, Robert Mueller wrote:
> Rob,
>
> I'm confused, the link I posted in Amazon gave the price for a SeaFlo of $53.00 USD ($67 CDN) why would you want to spend $91 CDN
> for the Trac which is $24 CDN more?
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob
>
> The housing of the SeaFlo sure looks identical to the "Trac T10069". Right down to the little "dimple" between the label and the
> outlet.
>
> http://www.amazon.ca/Trac-T10069-13-GPM-Macerator-Pump/dp/B00BKN8VYS
>
> http://danardmarine.com/product-info.php?pid189.html
>
> It appears like the same device. It looks like the housing is held on with 4 bolts - so it can be rotated for upside down mounting
> (like I've read will help). I may order the Trac (or two) and see how it is.
>
> Rob
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| Re: [GMCnet] SeaFlo Macerator Teardown Photos [message #275699 is a reply to message #275698] |
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Rob,
Got it!
It cost me $54 to have the SeaFlo shipped to Sydney, however, since it was under the Customs charge limit there was no duty or GST
and since I had them send it via USPS there were no customs clearance fees.
Do Canadians have to declare and pay duties and taxes on everything that they cross the US - Canadian border with? There is no duty
/ tax free threshold?
Regards,
Rob M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob
Total cost won't be $24 more! Shipping and border fees kill most deals from Amazon.com on my side of the border... I do have a US
shipping address, but it's a slow option, so I generally don't use it.
In this case - they won't ship the $53 SeaFlo to a Canadian address and if they would, shipping would be $15-$20 USD. Once a US
shipment makes it here - there is minimally a $7 brokerage charge, plus tax (adding up to another $10-$15 USD).
From Amazon.ca - I can ship free and also have a tax exempt shipping address. So - $91 is what I pay...
If I wasn't on an island - it *may* be slightly cheaper to ship to a US border town and "smuggle" it across. But if a person was to
follow the law, it should be declared at the border and taxes paid in that case, as well...
Crystal clear!
Rob
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