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Carburetors [message #274770] Wed, 01 April 2015 23:04 Go to next message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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Roughly a year ago or slightly more, I was having trouble with the idle circuit on my original carb on my 403. I saw the ad on Ebay linked below. Again, the net allerted me to the horror stories of special GMC carbs, power piston springs and special passages that still have never been clarified other than foklure. I bought it, took it apart and looked at the components with my GM carb engineer and determined it was the real deal and the correct p/n. Some here were horrified that it was just a truck carb and not the right thing to do. I installed it and never even had to set the idle mixture much less the idle speed. There was no core charge so I sold my original as a core. I say all of this because they become available from time to time and I want to attest that they are a correct quality replacement.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191549358602?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: Carburetors [message #274774 is a reply to message #274770] Thu, 02 April 2015 00:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SteveW is currently offline  SteveW   United States
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Bob -

403 only or 455 too ??

Steve W
1973 23'
Southern California



Steve W 1973 : 23' Southern California
Re: Carburetors [message #274780 is a reply to message #274774] Thu, 02 April 2015 07:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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SteveW wrote on Wed, 01 April 2015 23:34
Bob -

403 only or 455 too ??

Steve W
1973 23'
Southern California


So far 403 only but the same outfit may have or be able to do a 455


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
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Re: Carburetors [message #274783 is a reply to message #274770] Thu, 02 April 2015 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Tyler is currently offline  Chris Tyler   United States
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Yeah, its not black magic. Q jets are fairly broad in their appliccations. If you or you can find someone who knows what they are doing, they are fairly adaptable.

But for those not willing to modify a bit, the original is a good bet.

My favorite carb, especially for the street


76 Glenbrook
Re: Carburetors [message #274789 is a reply to message #274770] Thu, 02 April 2015 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Loffen is currently offline  Loffen   Norway
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The early 7043254 has been clarified by me, no worries there.

I am not sure about the newer ones like yours, but a tip is to compare the throttle linkage to the original carb, if it is identical so are you pretty darn close.
But why not rebuild the one you have ?

Bob de Kruyff wrote on Thu, 02 April 2015 06:04
Roughly a year ago or slightly more, I was having trouble with the idle circuit on my original carb on my 403. I saw the ad on Ebay linked below. Again, the net allerted me to the horror stories of special GMC carbs, power piston springs and special passages that still have never been clarified other than foklure. I bought it, took it apart and looked at the components with my GM carb engineer and determined it was the real deal and the correct p/n. Some here were horrified that it was just a truck carb and not the right thing to do. I installed it and never even had to set the idle mixture much less the idle speed. There was no core charge so I sold my original as a core. I say all of this because they become available from time to time and I want to attest that they are a correct quality replacement.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191549358602?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT



1973 23' # 1848 Sky Blue Glacier called Baby Blue and a 1973 26'-3 # 1460 Parrot green Seqouia Known as the Big Green, And sold my 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt trøbbel in Norway
Re: Carburetors [message #274793 is a reply to message #274783] Thu, 02 April 2015 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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Chris Tyler wrote on Thu, 02 April 2015 08:00
Yeah, its not black magic. Q jets are fairly broad in their appliccations. If you or you can find someone who knows what they are doing, they are fairly adaptable.

But for those not willing to modify a bit, the original is a good bet.

My favorite carb, especially for the street


That's always been my position but not well shared here.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: Carburetors [message #274794 is a reply to message #274789] Thu, 02 April 2015 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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Loffen wrote on Thu, 02 April 2015 08:42
The early 7043254 has been clarified by me, no worries there.

I am not sure about the newer ones like yours, but a tip is to compare the throttle linkage to the original carb, if it is identical so are you pretty darn close.
But why not rebuild the one you have ?

Bob de Kruyff wrote on Thu, 02 April 2015 06:04
Roughly a year ago or slightly more, I was having trouble with the idle circuit on my original carb on my 403. I saw the ad on Ebay linked below. Again, the net allerted me to the horror stories of special GMC carbs, power piston springs and special passages that still have never been clarified other than foklure. I bought it, took it apart and looked at the components with my GM carb engineer and determined it was the real deal and the correct p/n. Some here were horrified that it was just a truck carb and not the right thing to do. I installed it and never even had to set the idle mixture much less the idle speed. There was no core charge so I sold my original as a core. I say all of this because they become available from time to time and I want to attest that they are a correct quality replacement.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191549358602?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


To rebuild the one I had was more than buying this one plus I sold my original as a core since I didn't need a core to buy this--I thought it was a good deal and has proven to work very well.


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Carburetors [message #274797 is a reply to message #274793] Thu, 02 April 2015 11:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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It is like brand loyalty. There is no actual scientific data to support a
person's preference. Their mind is buttoned down, locked up and no amount
of factual evidence to the contrary will convince them that another brand
may be just as good or in some way superior. So it goes with Nordic
beauties, Redheads, Brunettes, tall, short, round and pleasantly curved vs
slender and flat chested. Taint no reason for it, it is just their
preferences. Holley or Rochester, Ford or Chev, same deal. How does that
figure that we all like GMC's? They truly are a crude, heavy, obsolete,
gasoline sucking beast. Ain't it great?? ( GRIN )
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Bob de Kruyff wrote:

> Chris Tyler wrote on Thu, 02 April 2015 08:00
>> Yeah, its not black magic. Q jets are fairly broad in their
> appliccations. If you or you can find someone who knows what they are
> doing, they are
>> fairly adaptable.
>>
>> But for those not willing to modify a bit, the original is a good bet.
>>
>> My favorite carb, especially for the street
>
>
> That's always been my position but not well shared here.
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> Bob de Kruyff
> 78 Eleganza
> Chandler, AZ
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Re: Carburetors [message #274815 is a reply to message #274794] Thu, 02 April 2015 15:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Loffen is currently offline  Loffen   Norway
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You can do the rebuild your self for $ 30-40, no worries Smile

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To rebuild the one I had was more than buying this one plus I sold my original as a core since I didn't need a core to buy this--I thought it was a good deal and has proven to work very well.



1973 23' # 1848 Sky Blue Glacier called Baby Blue and a 1973 26'-3 # 1460 Parrot green Seqouia Known as the Big Green, And sold my 1973 26'-2 # 581 White Canyon lands under the name Dobbelt trøbbel in Norway
Re: Carburetors [message #274816 is a reply to message #274815] Thu, 02 April 2015 15:54 Go to previous message
Loffen is currently offline  Loffen   Norway
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By the way, regarding the 7043254

http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&goto=273113&rid=3866#msg_273113


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