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[GMCnet] Transmission Filter Photographs [message #274161]

Sun, 22 March 2015 07:56

USAussie

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G'day,

Here's a link to a number of transmission filter photos that you may find interesting.

Note that the filter material is paper which; in my opinion, makes external filters redundant.

Oops - I better add a caveat - IF you change the OEM filter as required by the MM! ;-)

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6759-transmission-filter.html

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Rob M.
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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission Filter Photographs [message #274164 is a reply to message #274161]

Sun, 22 March 2015 08:15

jhbridges

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Rob, two of those aren't gonna work - someone hacked the bottom out of them! :

--johnny

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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission Filter Photographs [message #274167 is a reply to message #274161]

Sun, 22 March 2015 08:54

Larry

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USAussie wrote on Sun, 22 March 2015 07:56

G'day,

Here's a link to a number of transmission filter photos that you may find interesting.

Note that the filter material is paper which; in my opinion, makes external filters redundant.

Oops - I better add a caveat - IF you change the OEM filter as required by the MM!

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6759-transmission-filter.html

Regards,
Rob M.
The Pedantic Mechanic
USAussie - Downunder
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428

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Are those filters that I got for you at the auction?

Larry

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Menomonie, WI.

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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission Filter Photographs [message #274173 is a reply to message #274167]

Sun, 22 March 2015 09:12

USAussie

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Larry,

Yes, that's probably why they never got installed!

BTW they were worth more than what I paid for them as a "learning / teaching aid." ;-)

Regards,
Rob M.

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Are those filters that I got for you at the auction?

Larry

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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission Filter Photographs [message #274180 is a reply to message #274173]

Sun, 22 March 2015 10:46

bdub

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Thanks Rob.

It's like there are booby traps set for us at every turn. We GMCers are
truly blessed to have this information available to us.

Do your due diligence folks. With folks like Rob among us, we have the
resources.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/search.php?searchid=84504

Thanks for sharing
bdub

On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Rob Mueller
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> Larry,
>
> Yes, that's probably why they never got installed!
>
> BTW they were worth more than what I paid for them as a "learning /
> teaching aid." ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry
>
> Are those filters that I got for you at the auction?
>
> Larry
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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission Filter Photographs [message #274182 is a reply to message #274161]

Sun, 22 March 2015 11:09

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>booby traps set for us at every turn

The biggest, I think, are trusted brands switching to cheap production and sticking the down-graded item in the same old box. In the electrical and plumbing industry, I see this a lot. Your old stand-bys just might be junk.

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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission Filter Photographs [message #274190 is a reply to message #274173]

Sun, 22 March 2015 12:42

Larry

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USAussie wrote on Sun, 22 March 2015 09:12

Larry,

Yes, that's probably why they never got installed!

BTW they were worth more than what I paid for them as a "learning / teaching aid."

Regards,
Rob M.

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Are those filters that I got for you at the auction?

Larry

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Ya know...I changed fluid in the trans this summer using one of those filters. Wonder if that has anything to do with my trans running hotter than it did before the change...

Larry

78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.

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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission Filter Photographs [message #274213 is a reply to message #274190]

Sun, 22 March 2015 22:37

USAussie

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Larry,

If it restricts the flow through the cooler that could cause higher trans oil temps.

Regards,
Rob M.

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Ya know...I changed fluid in the trans this summer using one of those filters. Wonder if that has anything to do with my trans
running hotter than it did before the change...
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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission Filter Photographs [message #274220 is a reply to message #274161]

Mon, 23 March 2015 07:06

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Rob, how do you open up oil and tranny filters without filling them up with chips from the saw?

Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L

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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission Filter Photographs [message #274223 is a reply to message #274220]

Mon, 23 March 2015 10:50

Broham

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Now I'm kinda nervous about my planed trans fluid change this spring. As I understand it, the filter necks vary from 0.740" (too loose) to 0.76" (too big to fit in) and you would know if it has a good fit until you try it in your transmission. I would really hate to have it apart to find my new filter will not fit.

Is it pratical to use a drill bit or small pipe to open up the small one? or prehappes distort them into an oval to make them stay and use the O ring to seal them?

What do I do if it is too big?

thanks in advance

Todd

PS I assume I fill it with Dextron. does it matter what number? (III, IV, V or VI) and how much should I have?

Todd Owner of a 1976 Eleganza II 26’ other toys: 93 Vette 84 Goldwing and gone but not forgotten 72 CB750 Chopper 96 Caprice Classic 34 Ford roadster 94 Fleetwood

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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission Filter Photographs [message #274225 is a reply to message #274161]

Mon, 23 March 2015 11:27

Jon payne

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Thanks Rob!

So to confirm, what should be the OD of the intake tube to ensure it will stay put? I think I have seen that number posted here before when this mess first was discovered. In 2013 I changed my fluid & filter and I do recall it was a little loose but didn't think to much about at the time. Now I'm a little worried and want to check. Although I have put on over 5K since then.

Jon

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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission Filter Photographs [message #274229 is a reply to message #274220]

Mon, 23 March 2015 13:26

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kerry pinkerton wrote on Mon, 23 March 2015 05:06

Rob, how do you open up oil and tranny filters without filling them up with chips from the saw?

I use tin snips or a wood chisel. A big tube cutter would be nice for the oil filter if you have one.

Roy Keen Minden,NV 76 X Glenbrook

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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission Filter Photographs [message #274238 is a reply to message #274220]

Mon, 23 March 2015 23:02

USAussie

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Kerry,

For oil filters I have a tool works like a tube cutter that cuts the "can" off the filter "face" that the O-ring is in.

The trans filters I just cut open with a 1 mm cut off "blade" in a 4" Harbor Freight grinder. I only wanted to see how they were
made. I thought they were what I call "horsehair filters" like the old oil filled air filters of the 1940's. As you can see from the
photos I was WRONG!

I'll have to look at the one filter I kept to see if there is some way to remove the paper element without contaminating it with
metal particles.

Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kerry Pinkerton

Rob, how do you open up oil and tranny filters without filling them up with chips from the saw?
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Re: [GMCnet] Transmission Filter Photographs [message #274602 is a reply to message #274238]

Mon, 30 March 2015 17:27

USAussie

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Kerry,

While I was at Manny's on the way back to Sydney I picked up a used trans filter and I think that the seam that holds the inlet
cover to the outlet housing could be removed with a flap wheel in a 4 inch grinder without getting crap in the filter.

If you have a filter handy see if you agree.

Regards,
Rob M.

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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Rob Mueller

Kerry,

For oil filters I have a tool works like a tube cutter that cuts the "can" off the filter "face" that the O-ring is in.

The trans filters I just cut open with a 1 mm cut off "blade" in a 4" Harbor Freight grinder. I only wanted to see how they were
made. I thought they were what I call "horsehair filters" like the old oil filled air filters of the 1940's. As you can see from the
photos I was WRONG!

I'll have to look at the one filter I kept to see if there is some way to remove the paper element without contaminating it with
metal particles.

Rob M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kerry Pinkerton

Rob, how do you open up oil and tranny filters without filling them up with chips from the saw?
--
Kerry

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