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Need Advice - What Adhesive to Use [message #273693] Sat, 14 March 2015 19:29 Go to next message
Steve is currently offline  Steve   United States
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My 1978 Rear Bath Royal has some wall coverings that have come lose, particularly in the bathroom. The tub and shower area is covered in a vinyl wallpaper like material and it has started to come loose, especially near the seams. Underneath the vinyl is plywood or lauan/plywood. I'm not sure what the best product would be to "glue" down the loose vinyl wallpaper and install new vinyl wallpaper on Lauan or plywood?

It doesn't seem like regular wallpaper paste would be the thing to use. I was thinking Contact Cement. I removed a whole piece from the side of the vanity and it looked like contact cement.

Any thoughts, opinions, or ideas would be appreciated.

Contact Cement?
3M Spray Adhesive?
Wallpaper paste?


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Re: Need Advice - What Adhesive to Use [message #273694 is a reply to message #273693] Sat, 14 March 2015 19:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Harry is currently offline  Harry   Canada
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3M has 777 in a spray can.
It works very well.
Re: Need Advice - What Adhesive to Use [message #273702 is a reply to message #273693] Sat, 14 March 2015 20:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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Steve, I wasted a lot of time and money on the big box adhesives, spray and brush. Did them all and they all came loose. Finally went to an upholstery shop and asked what they used. I bought a gallon from them. It is Weldwood Landeau and Vinyl Top adhesive. This stuff looks and smells JUST like the stuff you buy at Home Depot/Lowes but it's not. The good stuff is HIGH HEAT rated. EVERYTHING else lets loose when the temps get high and the coach bakes in the sun.

There may be other brands that work as well but the IMPORTANT part is that it has to be HIGH HEAT rated.


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: Need Advice - What Adhesive to Use [message #273703 is a reply to message #273693] Sat, 14 March 2015 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kerry wins. JimB's post here: http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=21401&goto=166038&rid=0#msg_166038

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Re: [GMCnet] Need Advice - What Adhesive to Use [message #273718 is a reply to message #273694] Sat, 14 March 2015 19:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd also think 3M Super 77.

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> It works very well.
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Re: Need Advice - What Adhesive to Use [message #273719 is a reply to message #273693] Sun, 15 March 2015 07:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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3M Super 77 is rated 150f heat resistance. I couldn't find the actual rating for the landau adhesive --everything just says excellent high heat resistance.

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Re: Need Advice - What Adhesive to Use [message #273721 is a reply to message #273719] Sun, 15 March 2015 08:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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Nope not Super 77 or it's big brother High Strength 90.

rcjordan wrote on Sun, 15 March 2015 07:55
3M Super 77 is rated 150f heat resistance. ...


Car (and coach) interiors can get considerably hotter than that in warmer locations.

When I said I tried it all, I wasn't kidding. Here are a few of the one's that are still hanging around my shop. I did not try any of the lesser strength versions of these but I believe I tried the highest strength of every brand available at Home Depot or Lowes. None of these held more than a few months. NONE of them!

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/new-cabinets-2finterior-mods/p57457-img-20150315-083057-875.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/6502/IMG_20150315_083057_875.jpg

This is the stuff you want:

http://www.dap.com/product_details.aspx?BrandID=50&SubcatID=9

My local upholstery shop was happy to sell me a gallon from their 5 gallon pail for about $30. You can apply it with a brush or a cheap spray gun. It will NOT release once you apply the two sides together so make sure you position it correctly.

Note, the contact cement in the photo is NOT the good stuff but rather the common stuff you can get anywhere. The good stuff looks and smells the same but is not.

My experiments with this cost me a lot of time, a coach full of wall material (FRP and Masonite) and a good bit of vinyl all of which was thrown away and redone with the good stuff. I spent a lot more than $30 on the failed adhesives that were supposed to work according the the various sales folks I spoke with. I'm not saying that some other products can't work in some conditions like the frozen north but apparently in Alabama in August is a pretty serious test. I expect Arizona is considerably worse.


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: Need Advice - What Adhesive to Use [message #273722 is a reply to message #273693] Sun, 15 March 2015 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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Btw, I found that my local upholstery shop could sell me INSTALLED VINYL that was better and cheaper than just the cost of the vinyl I could buy at local fabric shops. What I did was take them the backing material with all the holes cut out and test fit. They covered and left me at least 2" on all sides. I cut to fit and trimmed the holes. Painless and saved me money, not to mention the time.

Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: Need Advice - What Adhesive to Use [message #273723 is a reply to message #273693] Sun, 15 March 2015 08:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>not Super 77

At 150f, that was my thinking, but wasn't sure. Thanks, Kerry. Next time I'm at the co-op, I guess I'm going to be reading the side of a can to find the landau heat specs.


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Re: Need Advice - What Adhesive to Use [message #273836 is a reply to message #273693] Mon, 16 March 2015 18:25 Go to previous message
Steve is currently offline  Steve   United States
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Hey, Thanks everyone for the great information. I thought about calling Jim Bounds, I guess I should have. I did search the forum but did not find the link to Jim's answer that was provided by RC Jordan. Kerry, thanks for the very detailed experience you have had with products off the retail shelf. I will try to track down some of the good stuff. Temperatures need to warm up a little before those adhesives are going to work well.

Thanks again for the quick and quality response.


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Eastern Pennslyvania
1968 Chevrolet C20 396 Camper Special
1969 Chevrolet C20 Camper Special
1985 Buick Electra Park Avenue
1992 Camaro 25th Anniversary Heretage Edition Black
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