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Ethanol News: Fact, Fiction, False Hope or Other [message #273385]

Mon, 09 March 2015 12:51

A Hamilto

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Mon, 09 March 2015 13:46

Neal Krisher

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There goes my dream of building an ethanol engine for the coach. Razz

I do hope this is accurate, but not going to hold my breath.

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Mon, 09 March 2015 15:21

rcjordan

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Besides the food price issue, the environmental outlook is cloudy, at best. Nov 2013 thread:
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=28855&rid=0#msg_229603

Direct link to article referenced:
http://www.nola.com/environment/index.ssf/2013/11/ethanol_not_as_environmentally.html

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Re: Ethanol News: Fact, Fiction, False Hope or Other [message #273398 is a reply to message #273385]

Mon, 09 March 2015 15:33

thesmith

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Ethanol from Corn is dubious at best, however there are already other processes that make it from other agricultural wastes
which make much more sense and there is a lot of research ongoing.

Current boom in gas production and low price will not last and the case for ethanol will again become compelling.

Pete

Cary, NC 1978 Center Kitchen Royale.

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Mon, 09 March 2015 20:18

Matt Colie

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thesmith wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 16:33

Ethanol from Corn is dubious at best, however there are already other processes that make it from other agricultural wastes
which make much more sense and there is a lot of research ongoing.

Current boom in gas production and low price will not last and the case for ethanol will again become compelling.

Pete

Pete,

Even at 100$/barrel, ethanol is hard to make cost effective in BTU/$ without a federal subsidy. (We pay extra in taxes to get crumby fuel that used to work better in a few out of tune pre-cat passcars. - I was There.)

Matt

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Re: Ethanol News: Fact, Fiction, False Hope or Other [message #273436 is a reply to message #273385]

Mon, 09 March 2015 22:35

Bob de Kruyff

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A Hamilto wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 11:51

http://www.insidercarnews.com/the-end-of-ethanol-in-gasoline-may-be-near/?utm_source=outbrain&utm_medium=partner&utm_campaign=outbrain-news-rs s

This will be a major blow to the GMC community. What are we going to blame lack of maintenance on now? The Russians??

Bob de Kruyff
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Re: Ethanol News: Fact, Fiction, False Hope or Other [message #273446 is a reply to message #273417]

Tue, 10 March 2015 07:14

thesmith

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We hugely subsidize Oil as well......both at the front end and afterwards cleaning up the mess it makes (never mind the trillions spent ensuring a world wide supply).

Its a hugely complex problem.....and not one that has any easy answers.

Matt Colie wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 20:18

thesmith wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 16:33
Ethanol from Corn is dubious at best, however there are already other processes that make it from other agricultural wastes
which make much more sense and there is a lot of research ongoing.

Current boom in gas production and low price will not last and the case for ethanol will again become compelling.

Pete

Pete,

Even at 100$/barrel, ethanol is hard to make cost effective in BTU/$ without a federal subsidy. (We pay extra in taxes to get crumby fuel that used to work better in a few out of tune pre-cat passcars. - I was There.)

Matt

Cary, NC 1978 Center Kitchen Royale.

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