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| [GMCnet] GMC Salvage issues. Times have changed. [message #273152] |
Fri, 06 March 2015 00:02  |
BobDunahugh
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Someone that I know wants $1500 for it. He's had it about 12 years, and has never had it running. So I wanted to find out what a scrapper would give. To help come up with a value. Below is what I found out. As a reference. The Cedar Rapids area has a population of about 190,000 people. That were I got this info.
Talked to 3 scrap yards in the Cedar Rapids area. All 3 said they wouldn't take it if it was free, delivered to their door. With the Federal EPA rules. The frig, roof A/C , stove, and water heaters have to be removed, and go to an approved recycling center that handles appliances only. Dash A/C only needs to be drained. So there is the labor to remove. Transport labor charge. Then a $20 charge per appliance recycle fee for dismantling each. That will total about $200 just to dispose of the appliances. All wood , cloth, and other materials have to go to a landfill. They said that the ones that they gutted cost them in labor, and land fill fees in the $485 range. Gas tanks, and all fluids must be removed. Another $170. Then cut up the body.. As it's too big for a crusher, or shredder. Another $180. Then when it's shredded. The Alum. and steel values drop due to the contamination of the composite body shell. That cost to the scrapper comes to $1035. At this time their gett
ing about $98 a ton for contaminated steel.$126 for contaminated alum. Bob Dunahugh
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Salvage issues. Times have changed. [message #273153 is a reply to message #273152] |
Fri, 06 March 2015 01:43  |
Ken Burton
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Wow! I just hauled in a Honda and they paid me $190 per ton. I did nothing to it but deliver it and drive over the scales. It still had gas and R-12 in it. They picked it up with a big claw and threw it on top of a pile of scrap cars.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Salvage issues. Times have changed. [message #273157 is a reply to message #273152] |
Fri, 06 March 2015 06:52 |
rcjordan
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Though rural, I suspect we are somewhere in-between, at least for larger vehicles. I would not be surprised if RVs were turned away from all but the most remote, good-ol-boy scrap yards (which are increasingly scarce). Our counties run the trash/recycling drop-off points and instituted the electronic appliance ban a couple of years ago, requiring a trip to a special drop-off point.
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
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Elizabeth City, NC
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Salvage issues. Times have changed. [message #273168 is a reply to message #273152] |
Fri, 06 March 2015 08:00 |
kerry pinkerton
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After I purchased my FIRST coach (up to 4 now with 3 on premises), I needed to get it home. Or rather, I needed to get the rolling chassis home. I didn't really want/need anything else. I investigated taking it to nearby friends and stripping it.
- No junkyard would accept it whole
- All cabinets had to be removed
- Remaining had to be cut into van sized chunks
- Even after that, I would have had to pay THEM unless I separated it by metal type
So I had the whole thing brought home and proceeded to strip the good bits and sell them. Over the years, I've harvested several parts that were needed NOW. Most recently was the accelerator cable I needed in order to get the Kingsley home. That little part alone saved me $100 plus shipping from Applied and not having to have to coach towed somewhere safe. I like having a parts coach.
While researching my part of the steering demo for the Patterson rally, I discovered my drag link bushings have a little play in them. I'll get some brass and rebuild it but rather than experiment with the one on my driver coach, I'll pull the one off the parts coach and do it. When it is 'right', I can swap it in. That keeps my main coach on the road for whatever time it takes.
I realize that no everyone has a place or the ability to keep a parts coach but it sure is handy.
Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama
Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Salvage issues. Times have changed. [message #273172 is a reply to message #273168] |
Fri, 06 March 2015 08:06 |
Ray Erspamer
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I'd love to have room for a parts coach but I barely have room for the
single one that I own.
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
> After I purchased my FIRST coach (up to 4 now with 3 on premises), I needed to get it home. Or rather, I needed to get the rolling chassis home. I
> didn't really want/need anything else. I investigated taking it to nearby friends and stripping it.
>
> - No junkyard would accept it whole
> - All cabinets had to be removed
> - Remaining had to be cut into van sized chunks
> - Even after that, I would have had to pay THEM unless I separated it by metal type
>
> So I had the whole thing brought home and proceeded to strip the good bits and sell them. Over the years, I've harvested several parts that were
> needed NOW. Most recently was the accelerator cable I needed in order to get the Kingsley home. That little part alone saved me $100 plus shipping
> from Applied and not having to have to coach towed somewhere safe. I like having a parts coach.
>
> While researching my part of the steering demo for the Patterson rally, I discovered my drag link bushings have a little play in them. I'll get some
> brass and rebuild it but rather than experiment with the one on my driver coach, I'll pull the one off the parts coach and do it. When it is 'right',
> I can swap it in. That keeps my pain coach on the road for whatever time it takes.
>
> I realize that no everyone has a place or the ability to keep a parts coach but it sure is handy.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>
> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny also a 76 Eleganza to be re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Salvage issues. Times have changed. [message #273176 is a reply to message #273168] |
Fri, 06 March 2015 08:11 |
Dolph Santorine
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I’m getting to the point where my parts coach is pretty picked over - and this thread has been very informative about how I’ll dispose of the carcass.
Dolph
DE N8JPC
Wheeling, West Virginia
1977 26’ ex-PalmBeach
1-Ton, Sullybilt Bags, Reaction Arms, 3.70 LSD, Manny Transmission, EV-6010
“The Aluminum and Fiberglass Mistress"
> On Mar 6, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Kerry Pinkerton wrote:
>
> After I purchased my FIRST coach (up to 4 now with 3 on premises), I needed to get it home. Or rather, I needed to get the rolling chassis home. I
> didn't really want/need anything else. I investigated taking it to nearby friends and stripping it.
>
> - No junkyard would accept it whole
> - All cabinets had to be removed
> - Remaining had to be cut into van sized chunks
> - Even after that, I would have had to pay THEM unless I separated it by metal type
>
> So I had the whole thing brought home and proceeded to strip the good bits and sell them. Over the years, I've harvested several parts that were
> needed NOW. Most recently was the accelerator cable I needed in order to get the Kingsley home. That little part alone saved me $100 plus shipping
> from Applied and not having to have to coach towed somewhere safe. I like having a parts coach.
>
> While researching my part of the steering demo for the Patterson rally, I discovered my drag link bushings have a little play in them. I'll get some
> brass and rebuild it but rather than experiment with the one on my driver coach, I'll pull the one off the parts coach and do it. When it is 'right',
> I can swap it in. That keeps my pain coach on the road for whatever time it takes.
>
> I realize that no everyone has a place or the ability to keep a parts coach but it sure is handy.
> --
> Kerry Pinkerton
>
> North Alabama, near Huntsville,
>
> 77 Eleganza II, "The Lady", 403CI, Manny Brakes, 1 ton, tranny also a 76 Eleganza to be re-bodied as an Art Deco car hauler
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Salvage issues. Times have changed. [message #273181 is a reply to message #273152] |
Fri, 06 March 2015 08:43 |
jhbridges
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I had a 'parts coach' till Frank swapped me the hotrod toad for it and drove it off.
--johnny
Foolish Carriage, 76 26' Eleganza(?) with beaucoup mods and add - ons.
Braselton, Ga.
I forgive them all, save those who hurt the dogs. They must answer to me in hell
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Salvage issues. Times have changed. [message #273621 is a reply to message #273618] |
Fri, 13 March 2015 07:56 |
Dolph Santorine
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Brian is correct. Fracking is a 50 year old proven safe technology.
Dolph Santorine
Dolph@DolphSantorine.com
Excuse me for not being my usual wordy and sporadically verbose self. This message is sent from my iPhone.
No trees were killed in the sending of this message and few long dead dinosaurs were involved. A large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> On Mar 13, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Pete Smith wrote:
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> I hope you are right. Of course it won't be you or I that is affected if you are wrong. It will be our Grandchildren and Great
> Grandchildren..............
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>
> Pete
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> Brian Waddell wrote on Thu, 12 March 2015 19:00
>> mostky wrong...brian waddell 77 ele 455 winnipeg
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>>
>>> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 06:17:46 -0700
>>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>>> From: psmith47@nc.rr.com
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Salvage issues. Times have changed.
>>>
>>> I liked searching through the old style scrap yards for that car part I needed or just for fun, but its really for the best that they are
>>> (almost)
>>> gone. Worlds getting too crowded to allow us to foul up the water and air anymore. Especially so in NC where so many use well water in their
>>> homes......mind you fracking will likely render large areas undrinkable in a generation in any case.
>>> On the upside, the internet lets people reach much bigger markets so that rare car part is much more likely to find a buyer that when it was
>>> lying
>>> rusting under a kudzu mountain.
>>>
>>>
>>> Pete
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Salvage issues. Times have changed. [message #273624 is a reply to message #273621] |
Fri, 13 March 2015 08:38 |
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thesmith
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Yeah so was lead in Gas, Asbestos in insulation, smoking etc
Dolph Santorine wrote on Fri, 13 March 2015 07:56Brian is correct. Fracking is a 50 year old proven safe technology.
Dolph Santorine
Dolph@DolphSantorine.com
Excuse me for not being my usual wordy and sporadically verbose self. This message is sent from my iPhone.
No trees were killed in the sending of this message and few long dead dinosaurs were involved. A large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> On Mar 13, 2015, at 8:08 AM, Pete Smith wrote:
>
> I hope you are right. Of course it won't be you or I that is affected if you are wrong. It will be our Grandchildren and Great
> Grandchildren..............
>
>
> Pete
>
>
> Brian Waddell wrote on Thu, 12 March 2015 19:00
>> mostky wrong...brian waddell 77 ele 455 winnipeg
>>
>>
>>> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 06:17:46 -0700
>>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>>> From: psmith47@nc.rr.com
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Salvage issues. Times have changed.
>>>
>>> I liked searching through the old style scrap yards for that car part I needed or just for fun, but its really for the best that they are
>>> (almost)
>>> gone. Worlds getting too crowded to allow us to foul up the water and air anymore. Especially so in NC where so many use well water in their
>>> homes......mind you fracking will likely render large areas undrinkable in a generation in any case.
>>> On the upside, the internet lets people reach much bigger markets so that rare car part is much more likely to find a buyer that when it was
>>> lying
>>> rusting under a kudzu mountain.
>>>
>>>
>>> Pete
>>> --
>>> Cary, NC
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Salvage issues. Times have changed. [message #273626 is a reply to message #273618] |
Fri, 13 March 2015 08:38 |
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USAussie
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Pete,
This subject is not really related to GMC's, however, I do agree that "fouling up the air and water" is not a good thing.
There are two things I don't understand:
1) How do old scrap yards do that?
2) How does fracking do that? As I understand it fracking is done at depths of 6,000 - 10,000 feet and the aquifers are at a depth
of about 500 feet.
Could you please point me towards articles that provide information on the subject?
Regards,
Rob M.
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Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 7:08 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Salvage issues. Times have changed.
I hope you are right. Of course it won't be you or I that is affected if you are wrong. It will be our Grandchildren and Great
Grandchildren..............
Pete
Brian Waddell wrote on Thu, 12 March 2015 19:00
mostky wrong...brian waddell 77 ele 455 winnipeg
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 06:17:46 -0700
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
From: psmith47@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC Salvage issues. Times have changed.
I liked searching through the old style scrap yards for that car part I needed or just for fun, but its really for the best that
they are
(almost) gone. Worlds getting too crowded to allow us to foul up the water and air anymore. Especially so in NC where so many use
well water in their homes......mind you fracking will likely render large areas undrinkable in a generation in any case.
On the upside, the internet lets people reach much bigger markets so that rare car part is much more likely to find a buyer that
when it was lying rusting under a kudzu mountain.
Pete
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Salvage issues. Times have changed. [message #273632 is a reply to message #273624] |
Fri, 13 March 2015 09:52 |
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thesmith wrote on Fri, 13 March 2015 09:38Yeah so was lead in Gas, Asbestos in insulation, smoking etc
Cary,
You are slightly correct in only a small part.
Tetra-Ethyl Lead in gas has been know to be dangerous since it was introduced. Other than the people that worked with the material for motorfuel, any causal link to heath issues has not passed peer review. The reason all automotive motor fuel is lead free is to preserve the function of the emission controlling catalysts and EGO sensor. I will not expend on this today.
Mesothelioma is real, and asbestos was backed out of manufacturing 30+ years ago. There still are new cases of mesothelioma for who no exposure can be found. Asbestos is a rock and is natural in the environment any chance of actually eliminating all exposure is slim. It is still present in the drinking water of some communities and many private wells. I worked in powerplants and shipyards, and those that I knew that were afflicted were also serious smokers. What you have not been told about the roughly 250k people that died either from fires the result of the failure of asbestos replacements, or those that were exposed as part of remediation programs.
Smoking tobacco has been know to cause some problems since Walter Raleigh introduced it to Europe, but it was also believed to be a relief from some medical issues. There were even bellows devices built specifically to blow smoke - well, let's not go there, but the saying still exists. The indigenous people that had been smoking tobacco for millennia left its control to moderation. Personal responsibility was still in vogue.
There are still some things left, alcohol (that is not mixed with otherwise good octane, and etc. that could be good motorfuel) is less dangerous than motorcycles and more than snow skiing.
Every activity implies some risk. If you think it can all be eliminated, you have should work for CPS.
I have other things to do today. Like work on my personal taxes.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] GMC Salvage issues. Times have changed. [message #273635 is a reply to message #273632] |
Fri, 13 March 2015 10:15 |
James Hupy
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Well gee, sounds like "Here we go again". If we build skyscrapers, some
radical idiots will just fly airplanes into them", so, which do we ban,
airplanes or skyscrapers? Neither, both? How about asking residents of
Buffalo, New York how they are feeling about global warming this winter.
Maybe we should shut down all those terrible fossil fuel generating power
plants in the eastern U.S. and see what you have to say about it then.
(VERY BIG GRIN)
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 GMC ROYALE 403
On Mar 13, 2015 7:52 AM, "Matt Colie" wrote:
> thesmith wrote on Fri, 13 March 2015 09:38
>> Yeah so was lead in Gas, Asbestos in insulation, smoking etc
>
> Cary,
>
> You are slightly correct in only a small part.
>
> Tetra-Ethyl Lead in gas has been know to be dangerous since it was
> introduced. Other than the people that worked with the material for
> motorfuel, any
> causal link to heath issues has not passed peer review. The reason all
> automotive motor fuel is lead free is to preserve the function of the
> emission
> controlling catalysts and EGO sensor. I will not expend on this today.
>
> Mesothelioma is real, and asbestos was backed out of manufacturing 30+
> years ago. There still are new cases of mesothelioma for who no exposure
> can
> be found. Asbestos is a rock and is natural in the environment any chance
> of actually eliminating all exposure is slim. It is still present in the
> drinking water of some communities and many private wells. I worked in
> powerplants and shipyards, and those that I knew that were afflicted were
> also
> serious smokers. What you have not been told about the roughly 250k
> people that died either from fires the result of the failure of asbestos
> replacements, or those that were exposed as part of remediation programs.
>
> Smoking tobacco has been know to cause some problems since Walter Raleigh
> introduced it to Europe, but it was also believed to be a relief from some
> medical issues. There were even bellows devices built specifically to
> blow smoke - well, let's not go there, but the saying still exists. The
> indigenous people that had been smoking tobacco for millennia left its
> control to moderation. Personal responsibility was still in vogue.
>
> There are still some things left, alcohol (that is not mixed with
> otherwise good octane, and etc. that could be good motorfuel) is less
> dangerous than
> motorcycles and more than snow skiing.
>
> Every activity implies some risk. If you think it can all be eliminated,
> you have should work for CPS.
>
> I have other things to do today. Like work on my personal taxes.
>
> Matt
> --
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> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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