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RandyM is currently offline  RandyM   United States
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On my 1978 Royale (transmode) how do I tell if I have an Electrolevel I or Electrolevel II air ride system?

Randy
Re: Electrolevel [message #272242 is a reply to message #272240] Wed, 18 February 2015 14:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sir: El1 has one compressor and a small air tank in the cabinet. El2 has 2 compressors and no tank.



RandyM wrote on Wed, 18 February 2015 14:48
On my 1978 Royale (transmode) how do I tell if I have an Electrolevel I or Electrolevel II air ride system?

Randy



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Re: Electrolevel [message #272243 is a reply to message #272242] Wed, 18 February 2015 14:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
C Boyd is currently offline  C Boyd   United States
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Also el1 has air lines going to the leveling valves in the rear wheel wells and el2 has wires.

C Boyd wrote on Wed, 18 February 2015 15:10
Sir: El1 has one compressor and a small air tank in the cabinet. El2 has 2 compressors and no tank.



RandyM wrote on Wed, 18 February 2015 14:48
On my 1978 Royale (transmode) how do I tell if I have an Electrolevel I or Electrolevel II air ride system?

Randy




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Re: Electrolevel [message #272245 is a reply to message #272240] Wed, 18 February 2015 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Randy

If you have two compressors it is an EEII. Look here for free manual downloads if you do not have them. http://bdub.net/GMCLinks.html

Rick


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Re: Electrolevel [message #272252 is a reply to message #272240] Wed, 18 February 2015 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RandyM is currently offline  RandyM   United States
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Only one compressor so, must be a I.

Thanks again for the wealth of knowledge

Randy
Re: [GMCnet] Electrolevel [message #272254 is a reply to message #272252] Wed, 18 February 2015 16:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If it is a 78 with a 403, it should be an EL II. Verify for certain by
looking in the wheel wells and see if you have pneumatic/hydraulic valves
or electronic ride height sensors. You could have a coach that someone has
converted to a single compressor, and still has the electronic height
controls. Or, you could have a version of wireless air system and that only
has one compressor as well.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 GMC Royale 403

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Re: [GMCnet] Electrolevel [message #272255 is a reply to message #272252] Wed, 18 February 2015 16:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Read here
http://gmcmotorhome.info/levelsch.htm


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Re: Electrolevel [message #272308 is a reply to message #272243] Thu, 19 February 2015 10:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Which is more reliable/easier to service/fix?


Pete


C Boyd wrote on Wed, 18 February 2015 14:14
Also el1 has air lines going to the leveling valves in the rear wheel wells and el2 has wires.

C Boyd wrote on Wed, 18 February 2015 15:10
Sir: El1 has one compressor and a small air tank in the cabinet. El2 has 2 compressors and no tank.



RandyM wrote on Wed, 18 February 2015 14:48
On my 1978 Royale (transmode) how do I tell if I have an Electrolevel I or Electrolevel II air ride system?

Randy





Cary, NC 1978 Center Kitchen Royale.
Re: Electrolevel [message #272310 is a reply to message #272308] Thu, 19 February 2015 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thesmith wrote on Thu, 19 February 2015 10:02
Which is more reliable/easier to service/fix?


Pete




Oh boy! Here comes the new version of the "oil wars".

However there is really no question. Original Power level with JR's valves.

Mref - I'll save you some time. Gene sez get the wireless remove level system.

They all have pluses and minuses. My read on it is as follows:

Powerlevel - all parts easily available but lots of tubing and the original dash valves are leak prone. Easily soved with JR Slaten's powerlevel II valves. Pricey but of the highest quality. You get what you pay for.

ELI - Basically an electro pneumatic replacement for the leak prone dash valves. Also eliminates a lot of tubing. However is prone to electric valve problems and electric switch problems. Also some problems with power supply to compressor having low voltage.

ELII - full electropneumatic implementation. Eliminates the dash valves and a lot of tubing. Still has switch problems and height sensors are difficult to locate and, I believe, not available new. Sensors are prone to failure and the system requires a reasonable understanding of electricity to trouble shoot. Also has the power supply to compressors problem. Two compressors instead of 1 for the other system.

Wireless remote system. Too new to have a good feel for reliability. This system does not have any auto ride height adjustments although most user reports do not indicate this is a problem. It does require the user to be aware of the ride height and to make adjustments as necessary.



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1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
Re: [GMCnet] Electrolevel [message #272316 is a reply to message #272310] Thu, 19 February 2015 10:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Good morning all.
Since you gents are on the subject of the EL system I have a question for
you guys.
My 77 PB has leak in the system which I have found. If there is more than
one, I'm not at this point. The leak was found in the hex fitting on top of
the far left front skinner valve. It is a hair line crack running the
vertical length. Replacing is more than likely the only solution, but in
the mean time can it be siliconed or JB welded etc.?

Part 2, when in auto mode it only lifts the driver's side, to raise the
right rear you have to use the rt. Rear button. What do I need to t'shoot
for this issue please?

Thank you in advance!
Jim Ernst
Columbus, NE
77 PB
77 Kingsley
On Feb 19, 2015 10:32 AM, "Steve Southworth" wrote:

> thesmith wrote on Thu, 19 February 2015 10:02
>> Which is more reliable/easier to service/fix?
>>
>>
>> Pete
>
>
>
> Oh boy! Here comes the new version of the "oil wars".
>
> However there is really no question. Original Power level with JR's
> valves.
>
> Mref - I'll save you some time. Gene sez get the wireless remove level
> system.
>
> They all have pluses and minuses. My read on it is as follows:
>
> Powerlevel - all parts easily available but lots of tubing and the
> original dash valves are leak prone. Easily soved with JR Slaten's
> powerlevel II
> valves. Pricey but of the highest quality. You get what you pay for.
>
> ELI - Basically an electro pneumatic replacement for the leak prone dash
> valves. Also eliminates a lot of tubing. However is prone to electric
> valve
> problems and electric switch problems. Also some problems with power
> supply to compressor having low voltage.
>
> ELII - full electropneumatic implementation. Eliminates the dash valves
> and a lot of tubing. Still has switch problems and height sensors are
> difficult to locate and, I believe, not available new. Sensors are prone
> to failure and the system requires a reasonable understanding of electricity
> to trouble shoot. Also has the power supply to compressors problem. Two
> compressors instead of 1 for the other system.
>
> Wireless remote system. Too new to have a good feel for reliability.
> This system does not have any auto ride height adjustments although most
> user
> reports do not indicate this is a problem. It does require the user to be
> aware of the ride height and to make adjustments as necessary.
>
>
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> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> Palmyra WI
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Re: [GMCnet] Electrolevel [message #272353 is a reply to message #272316] Thu, 19 February 2015 23:43 Go to previous message
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Raising or lowering in auto mode is controlled by the leveling switch located in each wheel well. If the linkage is still attached and you determine that you need a new one, Dave Lenzi rebuilds them or Jim Kanomata (Applied GMC) sells new ones. They are about the same price and right now Dave has some health issues so I would probably go with Jim K.

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Hebron, Indiana
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