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[GMCnet] 1978 GMC Royale 23 ft ? [message #271558]

Mon, 09 February 2015 23:13

BobDunahugh

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Someone I know just bought one. I had no idea that a Royale came as a 23 ft. It's been repainted. Or did he get misinformation on that part? It looks well done. Bob Dunahugh Member GMCMI
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Re: [GMCnet] 1978 GMC Royale 23 ft ? [message #271563 is a reply to message #271558]

Mon, 09 February 2015 23:47

Guy Lopes

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Bob, Do you have any photos to share?

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Someone I know just bought one. I had no idea that a Royale came as a 23 ft.
It's been repainted. Or did he get misinformation on that part? It looks
well done. Bob Dunahugh Member GMCMI

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Re: [GMCnet] 1978 GMC Royale 23 ft ? [message #271570 is a reply to message #271558]

Tue, 10 February 2015 03:04

mike miller

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BobDunahugh wrote on Mon, 09 February 2015 21:13

Someone I know just bought one. I had no idea that a Royale came as a 23 ft. It's been repainted. Or did he get misinformation on that part?

Bob,

Someone put Royale decals on a 23 foot coach. Being a 1978, most likely if is(was) a Birchaven, as by then the only major non-GM upfitter was Coachman. For Coachman products: _ALL_ 26 foot coaches were Royales and _ALL_ 23 foot coaches were Birchavens.

All of the Coachman furnishings were the same design Royale to Birch. Quality of the parts are normally fairly high... but sometimes the installation wasn't the same quality.

Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
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Re: [GMCnet] 1978 GMC Royale 23 ft ? [message #271574 is a reply to message #271558]

Tue, 10 February 2015 04:36

rcjordan

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>repainted

Grey with red stripe? If so, I saw that one on western NC CL.

SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
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Re: [GMCnet] 1978 GMC Royale 23 ft ? [message #271575 is a reply to message #271570]

Tue, 10 February 2015 04:50

Joe Weir

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mike miller wrote on Tue, 10 February 2015 03:04

BobDunahugh wrote on Mon, 09 February 2015 21:13
Someone I know just bought one. I had no idea that a Royale came as a 23 ft. It's been repainted. Or did he get misinformation on that part?

Bob,

Someone put Royale decals on a 23 foot coach.

The simple explaination being the most likely, I'd have to agree.

However, the number of known reverse floor plan brichavens shows Coachmen either wasn't documenting everything they did, or would let you order things not on the menu. Not hard to imagine the phone call: "23 foot royale? No problem sir,,,, bob, just cut that side stripe down"

In the tape stripe package 70's? Could have even been done at the dealer. I've seen stranger requests for new vehicles.

Be interesting to see if it still has the coachmen label on the inside, and what it says...

76 Birchaven - "Wicked Mistress" - New engine, trans, alum radiator, brakes, Sully airbags, fuel lines, seats, adult beverage center... those Coachmen guys were really thinking about us second hand owners by including that beverage center... Columbia, SC.

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Re: [GMCnet] 1978 GMC Royale 23 ft ? [message #271576 is a reply to message #271558]

Tue, 10 February 2015 05:07

rcjordan

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Royales had solid wood cabinet doors, Birchavens used particle-board cores. You can see the particle-board in the routed groove next to the raised panel even if the cabinets have been painted.

SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
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Re: [GMCnet] 1978 GMC Royale 23 ft ? [message #271583 is a reply to message #271576]

Tue, 10 February 2015 07:45

Larry

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rcjordan wrote on Tue, 10 February 2015 05:07

Royales had solid wood cabinet doors, Birchavens used particle-board cores. You can see the particle-board in the routed groove next to the raised panel even if the cabinets have been painted.

And my Royale had solid walnut cabinets in all but the bathroom. In the bath, they were walnut stained particle board, falling apart from years of neglect. I redid the bath in solid butternut.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g4473-remodeled-bathroom.html

JWID

Larry

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Re: [GMCnet] 1978 GMC Royale 23 ft ? [message #271589 is a reply to message #271558]

Tue, 10 February 2015 08:23

rcjordan

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Here's the one I saw. It ran on CL and Ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GMC-MOTOR-HOME-RARE-1978-ROYALE-MODEL-CLASS-A-ALL-ALUMINUM-BODY-/251791770147?pt=RVs_Campers&forcerrptr=true&hash=item 3a9ff58223&item=251791770147&nma=true&si=6R9YaFNz3USGFWP8%252FHtt7hsAu0A%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
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Re: [GMCnet] 1978 GMC Royale 23 ft ? [message #271593 is a reply to message #271576]

Tue, 10 February 2015 08:31

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Yep, it was the gray one that was on Craigslist and I believe, Ebay with
that short awning and erroneous model decals.

bdub

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 5:07 AM, RC Jordan wrote:

> Royales had solid wood cabinet doors, Birchavens used particle-board
> cores. You can see the particle-board in the routed groove next to the
> raised
> panel even if the cabinets have been painted.
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> 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
> 76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
> Elizabeth City, NC
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Re: [GMCnet] 1978 GMC Royale 23 ft ? [message #271597 is a reply to message #271593]

Tue, 10 February 2015 08:53

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RC Jordan showed the Ebay listing. Royale or not. Looks good. And at a vary good price for what was done. He's flying out to drive it to Ill Wed. Bob Dunahugh
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Re: [GMCnet] 1978 GMC Royale 23 ft ? [message #271598 is a reply to message #271558]

Tue, 10 February 2015 09:05

rcjordan

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Bob, can you get a report on the Honda genset installation? Will it start the A/C? Remote start installed? Fuel supply other than its top tank?

http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=33336&start=0&rid=2865

SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
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Elizabeth City, NC

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Re: [GMCnet] 1978 GMC Royale 23 ft ? [message #271599 is a reply to message #271593]

Tue, 10 February 2015 09:06

SteveW

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bdub wrote on Tue, 10 February 2015 06:31

Yep, it was the gray one that was on Craigslist and I believe, Ebay with
that short awning and erroneous model decals.

bdub

and an interesting generator... Anyone else have a "Honda 3000" ??

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/data/500/medium/honda_3000.jpg

Steve W
1973 23'
Southern California

Steve W 1973 : 23' Southern California

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Re: [GMCnet] 1978 GMC Royale 23 ft ? [message #271601 is a reply to message #271558]

Tue, 10 February 2015 09:08

SteveW

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Wow... you guys answered my question as I was typing it and figuring out how to upload a photo !!! Thanks.

Steve W 1973 : 23' Southern California

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Re: [GMCnet] 1978 GMC Royale 23 ft ? [message #271677 is a reply to message #271558]

Wed, 11 February 2015 07:02

John Biwersi

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Sure looks like a 23' rear bath Birchhaven by Coachman to me.

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Re: [GMCnet] 1978 GMC Royale 23 ft ? [message #271680 is a reply to message #271558]

Wed, 11 February 2015 07:49

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from another post...
I installed the EU6500is using a modified onan drawer, custom exhaust pipe and remote mounted muffler. It is fed from the rear tank using a pulse pump powered by a custom vent in the valve cover. 240v. Eco mode will not ramp up fast enough to start my rooftop, but standard mode will run both. Sips fuel and very quiet. I need to modify the enclosure to preserve the proper airflow. You are not supposed to run one of these with the access door open. Integral cooling and ducting paths are integral to the chassis. I cut mine apart to weldto my modified onan slide out, it's close, but get surging at light loads...I was able to incorporate the start stop from original interior onan switch, but needed to add a Separate run indicator light because it is opposite polarity at the switch. I'll see what pictures I have.

Sean and Stephanie
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