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[GMCnet] Believe It or Not! [message #270096] Wed, 21 January 2015 00:27 Go to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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G'day,

I got my copy of Bill Bryant's Workprint DVD yesterday and have watched the video a couple of times and it is REALLY interesting!

This shows how much design work went into the GMC and why it left all the other motorhomes of that era for dead!

I was astonished to find out that at one time they actually had a SAUNA in the bathroom!

They also had a neat hinged toilet bowl that you lifted up to flush. I can see why that didn't fly, you'd have to look in the bowl
and Americans don't like looking at poop! As opposed to Europeans where toilet bowls are designed so after you poop you can examine
it.

Sorry Gene NO LINK! ;-)

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Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
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Re: [GMCnet] Believe It or Not! [message #270114 is a reply to message #270096] Wed, 21 January 2015 19:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Okay - I think there is a no-grossout-clause to this net. Rob - you are officially sequestered for 12 flushes.

Yuck!

Larry Davick
Fremont, California
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Re: [GMCnet] Believe It or Not! [message #270116 is a reply to message #270096] Wed, 21 January 2015 20:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When I was a kid, we had a 1976 six-pac cabover camper with a wet bath. The toilet folded into the wall. It was pretty cool, but yes, there was no water spot, so you pooped on a flat plate in the bottom of bowl. Anyone who has been to Holland and used a very old Dutch toilet knows the rest.

I don't recall if it mattered to put water in the bowl or not. I don't think it was a bowl more than a plate with a flat floor and sides...

I have never seen one since.


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Re: [GMCnet] Believe It or Not! [message #270118 is a reply to message #270116] Wed, 21 January 2015 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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When I was a kid I used an outhouse. The basement really smelled. There
was no running water in it.

Byron Songer
Kissimmee, FL

On 2015-01-21 21:17, Chris Choffat wrote:
> When I was a kid, we had a six-pac cabover camper with a wet bath. The
> toilet folded into the wall. It was pretty cool, but yes, there was no
> water
> spot, so you pooped on a flat plate in the bottom of bowl. Anyone who
> has been to Holland and used a very old Dutch toilet knows the rest.
>
> I don't recall if it mattered to put water in the bowl or not. I don't
> think it was a bowl more than a plate with a flat floor and sides...
>
> I have never seen one since.
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Re: [GMCnet] Believe It or Not! [message #270122 is a reply to message #270096] Wed, 21 January 2015 21:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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...AAAAAAnd Here it is...

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/BiGGOne/BornFreeVII.jpg


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Re: [GMCnet] Believe It or Not! [message #270123 is a reply to message #270122] Wed, 21 January 2015 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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...Folded...
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/BiGGOne/BornFreeVI.jpg

...sink...
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/BiGGOne/BornFreeVIII.jpg

Same towel ring my GMC had...


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Re: [GMCnet] Believe It or Not! [message #270124 is a reply to message #270123] Wed, 21 January 2015 21:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Same setup we had in a Born Free camper. Camper was 20' long over all with it's own tag axle. It weighed 5000 lbs so needed the additional axle. Worked fine though and added a lot of room for the shower.

"I enjoy talking to you. Your mind appeals to me. It resembles my own mind, except you happen to be insane." 1977 Royale 101348, 1977 Royale 101586, Diesel powered, 1974 Eagle Bus 45',w/slideout, Rio Rancho, NM
Re: [GMCnet] Believe It or Not! [message #270132 is a reply to message #270124] Thu, 22 January 2015 03:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chris, THAT's it! I wonder if they still make them!

Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] Believe It or Not! [message #270133 is a reply to message #270132] Thu, 22 January 2015 03:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i think it is pretty neat. Gives a lot of space in the shower

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Re: [GMCnet] Believe It or Not! [message #270134 is a reply to message #270132] Thu, 22 January 2015 03:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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I answered my own question!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWxvtWLgpm8

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Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
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USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426



-----Original Message-----
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Chris, THAT's it! I wonder if they still make them!
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Re: [GMCnet] Believe It or Not! [message #270137 is a reply to message #270096] Thu, 22 January 2015 07:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As some of you may recall, I did work for Thetford for about almost two years. While I was actually developing the Thermasan commercial, I was a small lab and I was small lab and there were a number of parallel projects.

This may be more than some people want to know. Skip it if this subject has no interest to you.

Things of note:
The "wet spot" in a toilet bowl has two functions first is that solids will not cling to a wet surface and second is that the odor coming off solids will be greatly reduced if those solids are submerged.

Several examples of fold up stools came through the area while I was there and all had wet spot target area issues as described by the program guys. They had no wet spot at all or it was in the wrong place. There were also issues with closing off the opening to the holding tank. It is a gas stop. This is that actual function of the trap in your water trapped stool or the valve in the bottom of a mechanical valve stool. This is a means to eliminate the "outhouse" condition. The examples that were available all had difficulties this way. Without the volume of a water flush, (something that started out as 5 gallons in the original design by Thomas Crapper (wondered where that came from?) and is now reduced to 1.5 gallon by law) this will require a mechanical valve and some of those seen these could best be described as Goldberg-esc at best.

Well, that is enough of that for now.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Believe It or Not! [message #270147 is a reply to message #270137] Thu, 22 January 2015 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Railroad coaches had fold up toilets years ago.
Re: [GMCnet] Believe It or Not! [message #270175 is a reply to message #270137] Thu, 22 January 2015 21:12 Go to previous message
Byron Songer is currently offline  Byron Songer   United States
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And then there is the testing that is done to determine the
effectiveness of the 1.5 gallon flush with some fabricated floaters and
sinkers. Consumer Reports developed the test a few years back.

Then, there's the recirculating toilet as originally used in most GMCs.
Some chemical and a little water to get started. It sure saved on what
was sent to the holding tank.

Byron Songer
Kissimmee, FL where the weather was nice today

On 2015-01-22 08:30, Matt Colie wrote:
> As some of you may recall, I did work for Thetford for about almost
> two years. While I was actually developing the Thermasan commercial,
> I was small lab and there were a number of parallel projects.
>
> This may be more than some people want to know. Skip it if this
> subject has no interest to you.
>
> Things of note:
> The "wet spot" in a toilet bowl has two functions first is that solids
> will not cling to a wet surface and second is that the odor coming off
> solids will be greatly reduced if those solids are submerged.
>
> Several examples of fold up stools came through the area while I was
> there and all had wet spot target area issues as described by the
> program guys. They had no wet spot at all or it was in the wrong place.
> There were also issues with closing off the opening to the holding
> tank.
> It is a gas stop.
>
> This is that actual function of the trap in your water trapped stool
> or the valve in the bottom of a mechanical valve stool. This is a
> means to eliminate the "outhouse" condition. The examples that were
> available all had difficulties this way. Without the volume of a water
> flush, (something that started out as 5 gallons in the original design
> by Thomas Crapper (wondered where that came from?) and is now reduced
> to 1.5 gallon by law) this will require a mechanical valve and some of
> those seen these could best be described as Goldberg-esc at best.
>
> Well, that is enough of that for now.
>
> Matt
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