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Hello Everybody [message #269217] Thu, 08 January 2015 10:19 Go to next message
Leith is currently offline  Leith   United States
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Just thought I'd drop in and introduce myself as I've been reading nonstop since registering a few days ago:) My name is Martin, originally from Ireland but now living and loving in Temecula, CA.

Myself,my wife, 8 year old daughter, and 2 dogs plan on taking a year out from all this craziness to roadtrip amazing country of yours. We had initially planned to do a diesel Sprinter conversion but then we fell in love with a GMC. last weekend I bought a '73 that I believe was owned by a former member here and has sat for 2-3 years.

I've lots of questions but will save them for another day as I just wanted to say hello Smile

Martin

ps I tried to upload a photo of her(she's no name as yet)but am only allowed 1KB and I can't compress the photo to that size, however this link may work http://screencast.com/t/CH2bZPeixX
Re: Hello Everybody [message #269218 is a reply to message #269217] Thu, 08 January 2015 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Welcome, Leith. Good to have you here.

SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
76 Eleganza
Elizabeth City, NC
Re: Hello Everybody [message #269219 is a reply to message #269217] Thu, 08 January 2015 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Welcome to the cult Leith. I saw your coach on FB. Glad you made it to the brain trust. There are some really, really sharp people here.

Btw, what can you tell us about your grill. Is it one of Manny Trevao's?


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: Hello Everybody [message #269221 is a reply to message #269217] Thu, 08 January 2015 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dan Borlase is currently offline  Dan Borlase   Canada
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Welcome to this international band of brothers...!
Re: Hello Everybody [message #269224 is a reply to message #269217] Thu, 08 January 2015 11:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Leith wrote on Thu, 08 January 2015 10:19
...I tried to upload a photo of her(she's no name as yet)but am only allowed 1KB and I can't compress the photo to that size...
Join the photo site ( http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/ ) and upload photos to it. If you want to imbed them in this forum, follow the instructions here: http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=31075&start=0&rid=2083
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Re: Hello Everybody [message #269227 is a reply to message #269217] Thu, 08 January 2015 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Colie is currently offline  Matt Colie   United States
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Leith wrote on Thu, 08 January 2015 11:19
Just thought I'd drop in and introduce myself as I've been reading nonstop since registering a few days ago:) My name is Martin, originally from Ireland but now living and loving in Temecula, CA.

Myself,my wife, 8 year old daughter, and 2 dogs plan on taking a year out from all this craziness to roadtrip amazing country of yours. We had initially planned to do a diesel Sprinter conversion but then we fell in love with a GMC. last weekend I bought a '73 that I believe was owned by a former member here and has sat for 2-3 years.

I've lots of questions but will save them for another day as I just wanted to say hello Smile

Martin

ps I tried to upload a photo of her(she's no name as yet)but am only allowed 1KB and I can't compress the photo to that size, however this link may work http://screencast.com/t/CH2bZPeixX

Martin,

Welcome to the group, family, cult, asylum...
Glad you finally made it.

If you are like many, you will find that a year is just not enough to do an effective tour of the USA.
I will make one suggestion right up front, I am hoping you plan to travel with a laptop. If that is the case, get a copy (beg, borrow or whatever) a copy of Delorme Street Atlas. There used to be a good second in Streets and Trips, but that has been dropped by the publisher. Get one that comes with a GPS and get a small inverter (if the coach does not have) that is big enough to run the laptop while you are underway.

Next, go to the Discovery Owners site http://www.discoveryowners.com/cginfo.htm and look for overlays that might be of interest. There are many, so keep this bookmarked as you learn what you can use and want.

The next one I can't help with a lot because I am set in the market and don't know what is current. Look at "Smart Phones". They do a lot, but first on my list is an app called "Gas Buddy". This can save you 10~20$us at each fueling. On our last 4200mi excursion, it saved the price of the phone.

Do not forget to go to Bdub's site and get a current copy of the GMC Assist - aka Black - list. Carry it with you.

When you can, go to the control panel on the forum and build a sigfile that has - Your real name (so we will know who you are when we meet - and you will meet other owners), a short description of your coach with known modifications (this can make a bid difference as there were changes by model year), and a geographic reference so someone that might like to help knows if he is in striking range.

Oh, and don't publish a good @ddress (what you did in the profile is good) or phone number. There are lots of unvetted readers and some in the past have been spambots.

And lastly, in buying a GMC, you are now a member of a community that is like few others. To me, it is much like the watermen that have been my world. Because of this, I like to welcome new owners much as a new owner would be welcomed there. So,

May the Good Lord bless this coach and all those that set forth within her.

Welcome Martin and family.

Matt


Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
Re: [GMCnet] Hello Everybody [message #269236 is a reply to message #269227] Thu, 08 January 2015 14:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bdub is currently offline  bdub   United States
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And this was Dana Brock's GMC?

bdub


On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Matt Colie wrote:

> Leith wrote on Thu, 08 January 2015 11:19
>> Just thought I'd drop in and introduce myself as I've been reading
> nonstop since registering a few days ago:) My name is Martin, originally
> from
>> Ireland but now living and loving in Temecula, CA.
>>
>> Myself,my wife, 8 year old daughter, and 2 dogs plan on taking a year
> out from all this craziness to roadtrip amazing country of yours. We had
>> initially planned to do a diesel Sprinter conversion but then we fell in
> love with a GMC. last weekend I bought a '73 that I believe was owned by a
>> former member here and has sat for 2-3 years.
>>
>> I've lots of questions but will save them for another day as I just
> wanted to say hello :)
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> ps I tried to upload a photo of her(she's no name as yet)but am only
> allowed 1KB and I can't compress the photo to that size, however this link
>> may work http://screencast.com/t/CH2bZPeixX
>
> Martin,
>
> Welcome to the group, family, cult, asylum...
> Glad you finally made it.
>
> If you are like many, you will find that a year is just not enough to do
> an effective tour of the USA.
> I will make one suggestion right up front, I am hoping you plan to travel
> with a laptop. If that is the case, get a copy (beg, borrow or whatever) a
> copy of Delorme Street Atlas. There used to be a good second in Streets
> and Trips, but that has been dropped by the publisher. Get one that comes
> with a GPS and get a small inverter (if the coach does not have) that is
> big enough to run the laptop while you are underway.
>
> Next, go to the Discovery Owners site
> http://www.discoveryowners.com/cginfo.htm and look for overlays that
> might be of interest. There are many, so
> keep this bookmarked as you learn what you can use and want.
>
> The next one I can't help with a lot because I am set in the market and
> don't know what is current. Look at "Smart Phones". They do a lot, but
> first
> on my list is an app called "Gas Buddy". This can save you 10~20$us at
> each fueling. On our last 4200mi excursion, it saved the price of the
> phone.
>
>
> Do not forget to go to Bdub's site and get a current copy of the GMC
> Assist - aka Black - list. Carry it with you.
>
> When you can, go to the control panel on the forum and build a sigfile
> that has - Your real name (so we will know who you are when we meet - and
> you
> will meet other owners), a short description of your coach with known
> modifications (this can make a bid difference as there were changes by model
> year), and a geographic reference so someone that might like to help knows
> if he is in striking range.
>
> Oh, and don't publish a good @ddress (what you did in the profile is good)
> or phone number. There are lots of unvetted readers and some in the past
> have been spambots.
>
> And lastly, in buying a GMC, you are now a member of a community that is
> like few others. To me, it is much like the watermen that have been my
> world. Because of this, I like to welcome new owners much as a new owner
> would be welcomed there. So,
>
> May the Good Lord bless this coach and all those that set forth within her.
>
> Welcome Martin and family.
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie - Members GMCMI, GMCES
> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving OE Rear Drum Brake with Applied Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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Re: [GMCnet] Hello Everybody [message #269245 is a reply to message #269236] Thu, 08 January 2015 18:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scott Nutter is currently offline  Scott Nutter   United States
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I'm new here also, but beautiful coach! I wish my chrome was as shiny as yours! Grab a couple cases of that good Temecula wine and make tracks out here to Houston. Best BBQ in the world!! Scott.

Scott Nutter 1978 Royale Center Kitchen, Patterson 455, switch pitch tranny, 3.21 final drive, Quad bags, Dave Lenzi super duty mid axle disc brakes, tankless water heater, everything Lenzi. Alex Ferrera installed MSD Atomic EFI Houston, Texas
Re: Hello Everybody [message #269248 is a reply to message #269217] Thu, 08 January 2015 18:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rickmike is currently offline  rickmike   United States
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Welcome to the GMC Motorhome family!!

Stop by our place here in East Tennessee during your travels.
We are close to the Smoky Mountains, the most visited National Park in the US.

I have a spot for you to park for a while and plug in.

I want to visit Ireland, the land of my fathers, someday.
Maybe I can bend you ear about Ireland for a while.

Cheers.

Rick Michelhaugh (formerly spelled mickelhaugh)

Clinton, TN
8 6 5 - 9 4 5 - 8 9 3 2


1974 26' Canyonlands aka "The General" Clinton, TN
Re: Hello Everybody [message #269256 is a reply to message #269248] Thu, 08 January 2015 19:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Leith is currently offline  Leith   United States
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Wow, u folks ween't kidding about the welcome and sense of community Smile A few questions today so I'll address them best I can with my limited knowledge of my GMC

Kerry, I've no idea about the grill to be honest, I'll check it for a tag or something when I get near her tonight. I was concerned about the possibility of it reducing air flow though..

Matt, thanks for tips, we won't be going anywhere for at least 2 years. I bought the coach now so we could get to know each other and a psychological benefit for my wife Anne and I that we will actually follow this dream Smile

The coach did belong to Dana Brock as the service records list her name. I know she was a member here and you folks helped her out of a sticky situation. The guy I bought it from, bought it from her in Malibu,CA about 3 years ago. I have no updates on her present whereabouts.

I plan to list the service records in another post and to seek knowledge to help in her revival to somewhat of her former glory.

To Scott and Rick we'd love to swing by and welcome all such offers Laughing
Re: [GMCnet] Hello Everybody [message #269267 is a reply to message #269256] Thu, 08 January 2015 21:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Len Novak is currently offline  Len Novak   United States
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Welcome aboard!

You might want to stop by the Temecula Bluegrass festival in March. The
Pacific Cruisers should have about 40 coaches there for the event. You will
get more help and opinions that you will ever need as well as tour the
coaches for ideas on what to do with yours.

Cheers,

Len and Pat
1978 GMC Kingsley
The Beast II with dash lights that work and labels you can see!
Fallbrook, CA new email: B52Rule@Roadrunner.Com
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375

www.bdub.net/novak/




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Wow, u folks ween't kidding about the welcome and sense of community :) A
few questions today so I'll address them best I can with my limited
knowledge of my GMC

Kerry, I've no idea about the grill to be honest, I'll check it for a tag or
something when I get near her tonight. I was concerned about the possibility
of it reducing air flow though..

Matt, thanks for tips, we won't be going anywhere for at least 2 years. I
bought the coach now so we could get to know each other and a psychological
benefit for my wife Anne and I that we will actually follow this dream :)

The coach did belong to Dana Brock as the service records list her name. I
know she was a member here and you folks helped her out of a sticky
situation. The guy I bought it from, bought it from her in Malibu,CA about 3
years ago. I have no updates on her present whereabouts.

I plan to list the service records in another post and to seek knowledge to
help in her revival to somewhat of her former glory.

To Scott and Rick we'd love to swing by and welcome all such offers :lol:
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Re: Hello Everybody [message #269269 is a reply to message #269217] Thu, 08 January 2015 21:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SteveW is currently offline  SteveW   United States
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Welcome Leith !!!

Len beat me to it... one of the local clubs in this great community is the GMC Pacific Cruisers.

www.gmcpc.org

The Bluegrass Festival is in March... and we also have a few before that - Quartzite in January and the Newport Dunes RV Resort for Valentines Day weekend.

If you can't find a downloadable registration form for these events on the SCHEDULE page, they're all available in the most recent newsletter. Just click on the NEWSLETTER link.

Please come and join us.

Looking forward to meeting you,

Steve W
1973 23'
Southern California


Steve W 1973 : 23' Southern California
Re: Hello Everybody [message #269278 is a reply to message #269269] Thu, 08 January 2015 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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welcome! let the questions flow

Todd Owner of a 1976 Eleganza II 26’ other toys: 93 Vette 84 Goldwing and gone but not forgotten 72 CB750 Chopper 96 Caprice Classic 34 Ford roadster 94 Fleetwood
Re: Hello Everybody [message #269301 is a reply to message #269217] Fri, 09 January 2015 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
George Beckman is currently offline  George Beckman   United States
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Leith wrote on Thu, 08 January 2015 08:19
Just thought I'd drop in and introduce myself as I've been reading nonstop since registering a few days ago:) My name is Martin, originally from Ireland but now living and loving in Temecula, CA.

I've lots of questions but will save them for another day as I just wanted to say hello Smile

Martin

ps I tried to upload a photo of her(she's no name as yet)but am only allowed 1KB and I can't compress the photo to that size, however this link may work http://screencast.com/t/CH2bZPeixX


Nice coach. You will have many adventures! Welcome.


'74 Eleganza, SE, Howell + EBL
Best Wishes,
George
Re: Hello Everybody [message #269304 is a reply to message #269301] Fri, 09 January 2015 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Welcome Martin. A few words of advice from personal experience:

If you didn't do it, it hasn't been done.

That fact that it was replaced with new 12 years ago means nothing.

Stock is fine for now, you can upgrade at your leisure late.

One caveat on that last one. If you have 16.5" rims, replace them with 16". You'll be money and time ahead.


1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
Re: Hello Everybody [message #269311 is a reply to message #269304] Fri, 09 January 2015 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Leith is currently offline  Leith   United States
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Yip I'm researching getting 16" wheels and tires today as it happens. I know about the Alcoa and American Eagle anybody run any others? As for tires I hear Goodrich are the popular choice?

However, my first job to do this weekend is drop the tranny pan as I had some fluid come from the tranny vent (I know don't assume) on the drive home which resulting in smoke,,, which resulted in a 3 hour wait for AAA on New Years day. My dipstick is reading empty so I wanna see if I can spot something going on. Does anybody have a part number for the correct tranny pan gasket and filter?

Thanks
[GMCnet] Alternate to Alcoa and American Eagle Wheels [message #269313 is a reply to message #269311] Fri, 09 January 2015 12:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Take a look for these:

KMC XD-775 Rock Stars

You could use + 111 offset on the rears and - 134 for the front.

My coach came with 16" steel wheels (very heavy) and I used the + 111 offset wheels for front and rear on my coach. You want the ones made for rear duals.

Shan Rose used the black versions but I chose the chrome.

I can send a pic of what I used to anybody who'd like to have a peek!

I bought a pair of wheels each month and had the new tires I had already bought put on the steel wheels that came with the coach. That spread out the money outlay.

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> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 11:14:03 -0700
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> From: socalpaddy@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Hello Everybody
>
> Yip I'm researching getting 16" wheels and tires today as it happens. I know about the Alcoa and American Eagle anybody run any others? As for tires I
> hear Goodrich are the popular choice?
>
> However, my first job to do this weekend is drop the tranny pan as I had some fluid come from the tranny vent (I know don't assume) on the drive home
> which resulting in smoke,,, which resulted in a 3 hour wait for AAA on New Years day. My dipstick is reading empty so I wanna see if I can spot
> something going on. Does anybody have a part number for the correct tranny pan gasket and filter?
>
> Thanks
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Re: [GMCnet] Hello Everybody [message #269320 is a reply to message #269311] Fri, 09 January 2015 15:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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Socalpaddy...who ever you may be??
Have you seen a leak from the pan gasket or are you making an assumption
that it is leaking. There are ways to find of finding Exactly how much
trans fluid to put in.
It is not uncommon to spit out trans fluid if there is too much in the
system.
I have not read the rest of this posting so I may be talking about a
previously covered area...but welcome aboard and pop a beer..we really do
get along here!

Mike in NS

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:14 PM, wrote:

> Yip I'm researching getting 16" wheels and tires today as it happens. I
> know about the Alcoa and American Eagle anybody run any others? As for
> tires I
> hear Goodrich are the popular choice?
>
> However, my first job to do this weekend is drop the tranny pan as I had
> some fluid come from the tranny vent (I know don't assume) on the drive home
> which resulting in smoke,,, which resulted in a 3 hour wait for AAA on New
> Years day. My dipstick is reading empty so I wanna see if I can spot
> something going on. Does anybody have a part number for the correct tranny
> pan gasket and filter?
>
> Thanks
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1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS

I am not an alcoholic; alcoholics go to meetings.
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Re: [GMCnet] Hello Everybody [message #269322 is a reply to message #269320] Fri, 09 January 2015 15:22 Go to previous message
Kingsley Coach is currently offline  Kingsley Coach   United States
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Answer the question you say,,,
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/714

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Kingsley Coach
wrote:

> Socalpaddy...who ever you may be??
> Have you seen a leak from the pan gasket or are you making an assumption
> that it is leaking. There are ways to find of finding Exactly how much
> trans fluid to put in.
> It is not uncommon to spit out trans fluid if there is too much in the
> system.
> I have not read the rest of this posting so I may be talking about a
> previously covered area...but welcome aboard and pop a beer..we really do
> get along here!
>
> Mike in NS
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:14 PM, wrote:
>
>> Yip I'm researching getting 16" wheels and tires today as it happens. I
>> know about the Alcoa and American Eagle anybody run any others? As for
>> tires I
>> hear Goodrich are the popular choice?
>>
>> However, my first job to do this weekend is drop the tranny pan as I had
>> some fluid come from the tranny vent (I know don't assume) on the drive home
>> which resulting in smoke,,, which resulted in a 3 hour wait for AAA on
>> New Years day. My dipstick is reading empty so I wanna see if I can spot
>> something going on. Does anybody have a part number for the correct
>> tranny pan gasket and filter?
>>
>> Thanks
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> --
> Michael Beaton
> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> Antigonish, NS
>
> I am not an alcoholic; alcoholics go to meetings.
> I am a drunk; I go to parties !
>



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1977 Eleganza II 26-3
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