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George Beckman is currently offline  George Beckman   United States
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I am wondering about bed setups. We have an '74 Eleganza SE with a plywood platform and a regular double bed mattress from JC Penny on top for the plywood. We don't venture out when it is all that cold (we are California folks) but when we do we notice that when it is freezing out we feel cold coming through the mattress. We have plenty of blankets and down comforters, etc. and so are warm... on top. But we both feel cold or at least too cool under us.

So the question is, what would be the best "insulator" to put under the mattress pad? Don't want something that makes crinkly noise or that is uncomfortable but just a tad of insulation. We don't want to have the bed much higher, as Ruth doesn't like to have to take a running leap to get into bed.


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Re: Bed Question [message #268626 is a reply to message #268624] Thu, 01 January 2015 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Us Canucks use Fleece sheets in the winter.

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Re: Bed Question [message #268627 is a reply to message #268624] Thu, 01 January 2015 11:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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George, assuming you have 120v power available -shore or gen, I'd highly recommend the Softheat brand heated mattress pad. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001JEPSSA/

The biggest downside is that you'll have to buy one for the house, too.

Note that other rv forums mention that softheat is one of the only brands that doesn't burn out the control while on genset power as it has a dc converter. I've only run mine on shore power so far.


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Re: Bed Question [message #268629 is a reply to message #268624] Thu, 01 January 2015 11:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
roy1 is currently offline  roy1   United States
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Cheep way warm socks and snuggle for a little while.

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Re: [GMCnet] Bed Question [message #268630 is a reply to message #268627] Thu, 01 January 2015 12:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks for that link. I just ordered a California King size unit for home!

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> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2015 10:51:02 -0700
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> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Bed Question
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> George, assuming you have 120v power available -shore or gen, I'd highly recommend the Softheat brand heated mattress pad.
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001JEPSSA/
>
> The biggest downside is that you'll have to buy one for the house, too.
>
> Note that other rv forums mention that softheat is one of the only brands that doesn't burn out the control while on genset power as it has a dc
> converter. I've only run mine on shore power so far.
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Re: Bed Question [message #268631 is a reply to message #268624] Thu, 01 January 2015 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>California King

With 4.5 stars and 754 customer reviews, it's not too much of a risk, Mac. We gave one to our daughter this year. She quickly reported that she had two problems; #1 - Now she wouldn't be able to sleep when she travels unless there is a softheat pad. #2 - Her young kids had migrated from their rooms to the master bedroom once they found out about it. I told her that #1 was a valid concern.


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Re: Bed Question [message #268632 is a reply to message #268624] Thu, 01 January 2015 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
George B. is currently offline  George B.   United States
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First I suggest lining your plywood base and surrounding walls, below the mattress height, with the thin foam-backed reflective aluminum sheeting. Also a thin down mattress topper (not a comforter) does not add much height or weight but adds warmth. Best, and most expensive, would be a memory-foam mattress.

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Re: Bed Question [message #268633 is a reply to message #268624] Thu, 01 January 2015 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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George Beckman wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 11:39

So the question is, what would be the best "insulator" to put under the mattress pad? Don't want something that makes crinkly noise or that is uncomfortable but just a tad of insulation. We don't want to have the bed much higher, as Ruth doesn't like to have to take a running leap to get into bed.

George, You could get a couple of those pads that you use for under the sleeping bags when camping and sleeping on the ground. Those provide some insulation value. Put those under the mattress. Another possibility would be the stuff you put under laminate flooring.

Also, the Duro Therm Lite that I used as a substrate for my ceiling would work really good. It is a 1/4" thick but has an R3 insulation value. It would not squeak or make any noise. If it could wait until you visit this fall, I have enough left over that would do the bed. In fact, I might put that under my mattress.


Randy & Margie
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Re: [GMCnet] Bed Question [message #268637 is a reply to message #268633] Thu, 01 January 2015 12:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thursday, January 1, 2015, Randy Van Winkle wrote:

> George Beckman wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 11:39
>> So the question is, what would be the best "insulator" to put under the
> mattress pad? Don't want something that makes crinkly noise or that is
>> uncomfortable but just a tad of insulation. We don't want to have the
> bed much higher, as Ruth doesn't like to have to take a running leap to get
>> into bed.


12 volt electric blanket

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> George, You could get a couple of those pads that you use for under the
> sleeping bags when camping and sleeping on the ground. Those provide some
> insulation value. Put those under the mattress. Another possibility
> would be the stuff you put under laminate flooring.
>
> Also, the Duro Therm Lite that I used as a substrate for my ceiling would
> work really good. It is a 1/4" thick but has an R3 insulation value. It
> would not squeak or make any noise. If it could wait until you visit this
> fall, I have enough left over that would do the bed. In fact, I might put
> that under my mattress.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Bed Question [message #268939 is a reply to message #268637] Mon, 05 January 2015 20:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scott Nutter is currently offline  Scott Nutter   United States
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Thank you for asking the question. I'm buying the electric mattress pad for my rear bedroom for the same reason. What a great idea! Thanks!

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Re: Bed Question [message #268942 is a reply to message #268632] Mon, 05 January 2015 21:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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George B. wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 11:32
First I suggest lining your plywood base and surrounding walls, below the mattress height, with the thin foam-backed reflective aluminum sheeting. Also a thin down mattress topper (not a comforter) does not add much height or weight but adds warmth. Best, and most expensive, would be a memory-foam mattress.


Yes, but before you do this, pull up all the wall panels and such and seal all the little gaps between the floor and walls, the genny and LPG compartments and walls, and around the tail lights and plate light. Seal anything else that looks like it can let air into.

Foil tape all the seams between the walls and the closet and other divider walls.

Good time to check for evidence of leaks at the marker lights and windows.

THEN, line it with 1" blue high density foamboard and seal all the joints and seams with foil tape, Now your bedroom will be like a thermos, and stay cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter.

The GMC is full of air entraining gaps and labyrinths.

You'll probably go through two rolls of foil tape.

Forget that foil bubble wrap reflectix crap. it is a waste of money. It only works in windows to cut down on sunlight heat gain.


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Re: Bed Question [message #268946 is a reply to message #268624] Mon, 05 January 2015 22:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I assume the mattress pads go on top of the bed under the sheet?

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Re: Bed Question [message #268961 is a reply to message #268624] Tue, 06 January 2015 06:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>on top of the bed under the sheet?

Yup. It goes on like a fitted sheet.

I didn't see it asked, but it's a common question as to whether I can feel the wires. I can only speak for the Softheat brand (which we've been using daily in the house for 4 or 5 years now) but, no, I can't feel the wires.


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Re: Bed Question [message #269379 is a reply to message #268624] Sat, 10 January 2015 15:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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George Beckman wrote on Thu, 01 January 2015 10:39
I am wondering about bed setups. We have an '74 Eleganza SE with a plywood platform and a regular double bed mattress from JC Penny on top for the plywood. We don't venture out when it is all that cold (we are California folks) but when we do we notice that when it is freezing out we feel cold coming through the mattress. We have plenty of blankets and down comforters, etc. and so are warm... on top. But we both feel cold or at least too cool under us.

So the question is, what would be the best "insulator" to put under the mattress pad? Don't want something that makes crinkly noise or that is uncomfortable but just a tad of insulation. We don't want to have the bed much higher, as Ruth doesn't like to have to take a running leap to get into bed.


George,is filled with an insulating fiber that is said to "

I had to look up this old thread and didn't read through it, so please forgive me if you have found a satisfactory solution. We are currently at the Western Region FMCA Rally in Indio and I thought of your post when I saw this item in the vendor's area. There is a Mattress pad called a "Jensen's Thermo Shield" that seems like it might be perfect for you. It is basically a thick quilt that is said to keep you "warmer in winter and cooler in Summer". They don't seem to have a website (on their brochure) but their number is; 8oo-635-9937. Not cheap, the full size goes for $219.95, but it seems like it would do the trick for you without raising the mattress height.

By the way, there are four (4) GMCs here out of over 800 coaches.


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Re: Bed Question [message #269425 is a reply to message #269379] Sun, 11 January 2015 18:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Electric Blanket works for me. Smile

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Re: [GMCnet] Bed Question [message #269428 is a reply to message #269425] Sun, 11 January 2015 19:52 Go to previous message
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I bought the electric mattress pad that was mentioned here a few days ago for our home bed; works great!

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I am in agreement with you on that. My only point for commenting on this subject was so that any members anticipating this re[pair ask for the proper tool when they start the project.

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The term for the proper tool in the application of removing a pin (or in this case a shaft from a bearing) form an assembly is a pin punch ( or sometimes simply a punch). A Drift or Drift Punch (also known as an alignment tool has a tapered shat on the business end so that it may be inserted into two misaligned holes and driven in to "drift the two items into alignment. Because of the tapper of the shaft damage could occur if it is over driven when used to remove a pin or shaft from an assembly. A punch has a strait shaft, and by using a punch of slightly smaller diameter than the pin it can be driven through with no damage to the assembly.

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On Jan 11, 2015, at 18:12, Stick Miller wrote:

Electric Blanket works for me. :)
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