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Anyone watch any of these 'tiny home' shows on cable? [message #268247] Thu, 25 December 2014 17:27 Go to next message
kerry pinkerton is currently offline  kerry pinkerton   United States
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We watch HouseHunters and such and they started showing tiny home shows. Lots of parallels to living in a box about the same size as our coaches. Some interesting ideas.

Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: Anyone watch any of these 'tiny home' shows on cable? [message #268254 is a reply to message #268247] Thu, 25 December 2014 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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kerry pinkerton wrote on Thu, 25 December 2014 17:27
We watch HouseHunters and such and they started showing tiny home shows. Lots of parallels to living in a box about the same size as our coaches. Some interesting ideas.


Thanks Kerry.

They had several mobile "tiny houses" including an Airstream and a house boat. The bedroom on the houseboat was accessed through a crawl space and had a ceiling height of about two feet! It also featured toe-kick drawers.

Dennis


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Re: Anyone watch any of these 'tiny home' shows on cable? [message #268268 is a reply to message #268247] Fri, 26 December 2014 06:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't watch tv much but I've been following the tiny homes and/or container homes movement online for about a decade now. There are a few coffee-table books on Amazon. I have this one. It's OK, but online is better.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0936070528/

Some links from my bookmarks:
http://www.geekfill.com/2014/03/31/a-31-year-old-was-sick-of-expensive-rent-and-high-costs-what-he-did-took-guts-but-look-inside-2/#

http://imgur.com/a/ApX9K

http://imgur.com/gallery/rFHLt

http://containere.org.ro/advertising.html

http://spa.aiachicago.org/2014/awards.asp?awardId=9

http://www.reddit.com/r/TinyHouses/


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Re: Anyone watch any of these 'tiny home' shows on cable? [message #268286 is a reply to message #268268] Fri, 26 December 2014 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks RC, interesting links. I just find the parallels for space utilization interesting. I expect that most of us live in houses that are two or three times larger than the homes our parents lived in.

Don't get me wrong, I like my 'stuff'. But the house is too big. We have 'stuff' that we will NEVER, EVER use again, can't find if we wanted to, and didn't need to begin with. A smaller space would require us to deal with 'stuff' instead of just putting it in the 'insert name of storage space here. ")'

Are we going to move to a smaller place? No way, at least not until we're unable to do the upkeep on things.

However, we have this hobby that is a 208 sq ft (or less if you take the cockpit out of the math) 'tiny house'. Some folks full time in them but I can't see us ever doing that. I can see us doing a month or two on the road and for that to work, space utilization seems really important. The tiny house movement is rethinking space utilization and ideas.

It seems like every time we go to a rally, I end up doing a major reno. The curved walls of our coaches are great for the style factor but certainly offer some challenges for effective utilization of space.

This time, I've been working in the kitchen/hall and am amazed at the space that is just 'there' with nothing at all in it. For instance, there is at least 6" behind the hall module from the top of the wheel well to the ceiling. Yeah, there is a vent pipe and some wire but probably 10-15 cubic feet of space.

When I pulled the furnace, I found that there is 6' of dead space below the bottom drawer of the kitchen module, not to mention 6" behind all the kitchen drawers/cabinets. Even if you didn't pull the heat ducts, they could be moved to the back wall and a lot of space recovered. My kitchen/hall redo project is getting pretty close to the top of the list and using all that space will be part of the plan. Adding three 4" tall, 22 inch deep drawers, is pretty significant.

In our Eleganza, there is a couple cubic feet at the very end of the water tank and Onan cabinets. On our coach, the water pump is behind the water tank but the space is mostly empty and it can be, and will be moved. The area behind the Onan is just air. I'm probably going to put a small 110V compressor in there with outside access. Ken Henderson has one and I really like the ability to have air.

I've seen some good use of the space behind the fridge. The step behind the seat could be eliminated which would add noticeable floor space for furniture or storage.

An then there is all that space between the frame rails in the front frame section...humm swing down basement storage????


Kerry Pinkerton - North Alabama Had 5 over the years. Currently have a '06 Fleetwood Discovery 39L
Re: Anyone watch any of these 'tiny home' shows on cable? [message #268287 is a reply to message #268247] Fri, 26 December 2014 09:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>It seems like every time we go to a rally, I end up doing a major reno. The curved walls of our coaches are great for the style factor but certainly offer some challenges for effective utilization of space.

You should try trimarans if you like the curved space challenge.


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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone watch any of these 'tiny home' shows on cable? [message #268290 is a reply to message #268287] Fri, 26 December 2014 10:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For a nice little compressor, I have a York A/C compressor hooked up to a
12 volt golf cart stater generator. The York is what some of the off road
enthusiast use. If you can find the space you could also mount it up to
the engine as well.
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/yorkair.html
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/onboard-air.html

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>> It seems like every time we go to a rally, I end up doing a major reno.
> The curved walls of our coaches are great for the style factor but certainly
> offer some challenges for effective utilization of space.
>
> You should try trimarans if you like the curved space challenge.
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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone watch any of these 'tiny home' shows on cable? [message #268304 is a reply to message #268286] Fri, 26 December 2014 18:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kerry,

I laude your efforts to ferret out storage places but there are some considerations.

Behind the fridge - you're all electric so you can do what you like with that space, anyone with a two or three way fridge that uses
LPG needs to consider air flow and flammability of materials stored there.

Step behind couch - I'm with you on that one as the only part necessary is to clear the transmission chain case.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/aa-miscellaneous-photos/p52413-modify-step.html

I like your idea for storage space between the frame rails in the front frame section:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/aa-miscellaneous-photos/p56758-gmc-26-frame-basement.html

Maybe a trap door in the aisle for access from the inside of the GMC?

Having said all this I reckon it's a good idea to review what one "needs" to carry; says the guy that carries this:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g5795-tool-box-installation.html

;-)

Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

-----Original Message-----
From: Kerry Pinkerton

Thanks RC, interesting links. I just find the parallels for space utilization interesting. I expect that most of us live in houses
that are two or three times larger than the homes our parents lived in.

Don't get me wrong, I like my 'stuff'. But the house is too big. We have 'stuff' that we will NEVER, EVER use again, can't find if
we wanted to, and didn't need to begin with. A smaller space would require us to deal with 'stuff' instead of just putting it in
the 'insert name of storage space here. ")'

Are we going to move to a smaller place? No way, at least not until we're unable to do the upkeep on things.

However, we have this hobby that is a 208 sq ft (or less if you take the cockpit out of the math) 'tiny house'. Some folks full
time in them but I can't see us ever doing that. I can see us doing a month or two on the road and for that to work, space
utilization seems really important. The tiny house movement is rethinking space utilization and ideas.

It seems like every time we go to a rally, I end up doing a major reno. The curved walls of our coaches are great for the style
factor but certainly offer some challenges for effective utilization of space.

This time, I've been working in the kitchen/hall and am amazed at the space that is just 'there' with nothing at all in it. For
instance, there is at least 6" behind the hall module from the top of the wheel well to the ceiling. Yeah, there is a vent pipe and
some wire but probably 10-15 cubic feet of space.

When I pulled the furnace, I found that there is 6' of dead space below the bottom drawer of the kitchen module, not to mention 6"
behind all the kitchen drawers/cabinets. Even if you didn't pull the heat ducts, they could be moved to the back wall and a lot of
space recovered. My kitchen/hall redo project is getting pretty close to the top of the list and using all that space will be part
of the plan. Adding three 4" tall, 22 inch deep drawers, is pretty significant.

In our Eleganza, there is a couple cubic feet at the very end of the water tank and Onan cabinets. On our coach, the water pump is
behind the water tank but the space is mostly empty and it can be, and will be moved. The area behind the Onan is just air. I'm
probably going to put a small 110V compressor in there with outside access. Ken Henderson has one and I really like the ability to
have air.

I've seen some good use of the space behind the fridge. The step behind the seat could be eliminated which would add noticeable
floor space for furniture or storage.

An then there is all that space between the frame rails in the front frame section...humm swing down basement storage????
--
Kerry

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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone watch any of these 'tiny home' shows on cable? [message #268308 is a reply to message #268304] Fri, 26 December 2014 19:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But if anyone decides to eliminate the step on each side of the chain
housing, DO NOT forget that you MUST have access to the 3 bolts holding the
sheet metal rear mount to the bell housing in order to R&R the
transmission, with or without the engine. I've drilled and covered access
holes through the lower step riser for access to those bolts. They make it
far easier to R&R the transmission so are always worth doing. They'd be
mandatory if you closed off the access from the sides.

Ken H.

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> Step behind couch - I'm with you on that one as the only part necessary is
> to clear the transmission chain case.
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/aa-miscellaneous-photos/p52413-modify-step.html

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Re: [GMCnet] Anyone watch any of these 'tiny home' shows on cable? [message #268315 is a reply to message #268308] Fri, 26 December 2014 20:25 Go to previous message
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Ken,

No hurry but when you get a chance could you please take some photos of those holes and how you located them as I DEFINITELY will be
modifying the step area on The Blue Streak. An AutoGas tank will be going under the dinette seat on that side.

Include them in message titled "Modifying Cockpit Step" so they can be found.

Thanks,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Henderson

But if anyone decides to eliminate the step on each side of the chain
housing, DO NOT forget that you MUST have access to the 3 bolts holding the
sheet metal rear mount to the bell housing in order to R&R the
transmission, with or without the engine. I've drilled and covered access
holes through the lower step riser for access to those bolts. They make it
far easier to R&R the transmission so are always worth doing. They'd be
mandatory if you closed off the access from the sides.

Ken H.



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