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Propane fill up [message #266757] |
Tue, 25 November 2014 22:09 |
Jarrar
Messages: 41 Registered: July 2014 Location: Santa Cruz, California.
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Hi,
So I have my 77 23ft GMC parked in a spot where it is not easy to get in and out.
I need at some point soon to fill the Propane tank, it is the type that is not removable.
Is there a way to do this without driving the whole rig down to the propane place?
Will they lend me a propane tank to fill mine with then I can return theirs?
Thoughts, ideas ??
Thank you,
AJ
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Re: Propane fill up [message #266765 is a reply to message #266757] |
Wed, 26 November 2014 00:09 |
roy1
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Jarrar wrote on Tue, 25 November 2014 20:09Hi,
So I have my 77 23ft GMC parked in a spot where it is not easy to get in and out.
I need at some point soon to fill the Propane tank, it is the type that is not removable.
Is there a way to do this without driving the whole rig down to the propane place?
Will they lend me a propane tank to fill mine with then I can return theirs?
Thoughts, ideas ??
Thank you,
AJ
That won't work the propane needs to be pumped into your tank. Another tank would be at about the same pressure as your tank so it wouldn't transfer from one tank to the other.
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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Re: [GMCnet] Propane fill up [message #266778 is a reply to message #266757] |
Wed, 26 November 2014 07:12 |
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USAussie
Messages: 15912 Registered: July 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
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AJ,
AFAIK there isn't any way to fill the propane tank from another tank SAFELY.
What I would suggest it that when the propane tank in your GMC is empty shut off the outlet valve and disconnect the fitting and
regulator from that tank and connect it to a BBQ propane tank. The hose should be long enough to connect the BBQ tank sitting
outside the LPG compartment. I did exactly this on my '75 Avion.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Subject: [GMCnet] Propane fill up
Hi,
So I have my 77 23ft GMC parked in a spot where it is not easy to get in and out.
I need at some point soon to fill the Propane tank, it is the type that is not removable.
Is there a way to do this without driving the whole rig down to the propane place?
Will they lend me a propane tank to fill mine with then I can return theirs?
Thoughts, ideas ??
Thank you,
AJ
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Rob M. (USAussie)
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Re: [GMCnet] Propane fill up [message #266805 is a reply to message #266778] |
Wed, 26 November 2014 14:45 |
powerjon
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With the Picture site back up, here is how I run an external LP tank for service.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p46779-lp-tank-modification.html
and
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p46781-lp-tank-modification.html
and
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p46778-lp-tank-modification.html
The green fiberglass tank is no longer available and was recalled in 2012. All the fittings are LP rated and can be found at most RV supply places. The current quick disconnects have a lock to prevent disconnect when open.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
> On Nov 26, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Robert Mueller wrote:
>
> AJ,
>
> AFAIK there isn't any way to fill the propane tank from another tank SAFELY.
>
> What I would suggest it that when the propane tank in your GMC is empty shut off the outlet valve and disconnect the fitting and
> Regulator from that tank and connect it to a BBQ propane tank. The hose should be long enough to connect the BBQ tank sitting
> outside the LPG compartment. I did exactly this on my '75 Avion.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of AJ
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:09 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Propane fill up
>
> Hi,
>
> So I have my 77 23ft GMC parked in a spot where it is not easy to get in and out.
>
> I need at some point soon to fill the Propane tank, it is the type that is not removable.
>
> Is there a way to do this without driving the whole rig down to the propane place?
>
> Will they lend me a propane tank to fill mine with then I can return theirs?
>
> Thoughts, ideas ??
>
> Thank you,
> AJ
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Re: [GMCnet] Propane fill up [message #266808 is a reply to message #266805] |
Wed, 26 November 2014 15:16 |
Mr ERFisher
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There is always here ---
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/propane-convesion/p10064.html
Erf
On Wednesday, November 26, 2014, John Wright wrote:
> With the Picture site back up, here is how I run an external LP tank for
> service.
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p46779-lp-tank-modification.html
> and
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p46781-lp-tank-modification.html
> and
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p46778-lp-tank-modification.html
> The green fiberglass tank is no longer available and was recalled in
> 2012. All the fittings are LP rated and can be found at most RV supply
> places. The current quick disconnects have a lock to prevent disconnect
> when open.
>
> JR Wright
> 78 Buskirk Stretch
> 75 Avion
> Michigan
>
>> On Nov 26, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Robert Mueller > wrote:
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>> AJ,
>>
>> AFAIK there isn't any way to fill the propane tank from another tank
> SAFELY.
>>
>> What I would suggest it that when the propane tank in your GMC is empty
> shut off the outlet valve and disconnect the fitting and
>> Regulator from that tank and connect it to a BBQ propane tank. The hose
> should be long enough to connect the BBQ tank sitting
>> outside the LPG compartment. I did exactly this on my '75 Avion.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.
>> Sydney, Australia
>> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org ]
> On Behalf Of AJ
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:09 PM
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Propane fill up
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> So I have my 77 23ft GMC parked in a spot where it is not easy to get in
> and out.
>>
>> I need at some point soon to fill the Propane tank, it is the type that
> is not removable.
>>
>> Is there a way to do this without driving the whole rig down to the
> propane place?
>>
>> Will they lend me a propane tank to fill mine with then I can return
> theirs?
>>
>> Thoughts, ideas ??
>>
>> Thank you,
>> AJ
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Re: [GMCnet] Propane fill up [message #266813 is a reply to message #266805] |
Wed, 26 November 2014 16:19 |
Ray Erspamer
Messages: 1707 Registered: May 2007 Location: Milwaukee Wisconsin
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I did the exact same thing. When hosting the campground they buy my
propane, it's a lot easier to have the 20# canister filled than to
break up the campsite and drive to town for propane.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:45 PM, John Wright wrote:
> With the Picture site back up, here is how I run an external LP tank for service.
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p46779-lp-tank-modification.html
> and
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p46781-lp-tank-modification.html
> and
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p46778-lp-tank-modification.html
> The green fiberglass tank is no longer available and was recalled in 2012. All the fittings are LP rated and can be found at most RV supply places. The current quick disconnects have a lock to prevent disconnect when open.
>
> JR Wright
> 78 Buskirk Stretch
> 75 Avion
> Michigan
>
>> On Nov 26, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Robert Mueller wrote:
>>
>> AJ,
>>
>> AFAIK there isn't any way to fill the propane tank from another tank SAFELY.
>>
>> What I would suggest it that when the propane tank in your GMC is empty shut off the outlet valve and disconnect the fitting and
>> Regulator from that tank and connect it to a BBQ propane tank. The hose should be long enough to connect the BBQ tank sitting
>> outside the LPG compartment. I did exactly this on my '75 Avion.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rob M.
>> Sydney, Australia
>> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
>> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of AJ
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:09 PM
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Propane fill up
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> So I have my 77 23ft GMC parked in a spot where it is not easy to get in and out.
>>
>> I need at some point soon to fill the Propane tank, it is the type that is not removable.
>>
>> Is there a way to do this without driving the whole rig down to the propane place?
>>
>> Will they lend me a propane tank to fill mine with then I can return theirs?
>>
>> Thoughts, ideas ??
>>
>> Thank you,
>> AJ
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Re: [GMCnet] Propane fill up [message #266846 is a reply to message #266832] |
Thu, 27 November 2014 00:32 |
roy1
Messages: 2126 Registered: July 2004 Location: Minden nevada
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Harry wrote on Wed, 26 November 2014 18:33When I was running my 454 crewcab on propane, I carried a cheater hose. If I ever ran out I could use a 20 lb tank to transfer propane in to the big tank. I could hook up the hose to the 20 lb. and to the big tank. Turn the 20 lb upside down and open the valve. At this point propane is a liquid and it would run in to the big tank.
Like refrigerant that would work till the pressure equalized in the 2 tanks.
Roy Keen
Minden,NV
76 X Glenbrook
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Re: [GMCnet] Propane fill up [message #266848 is a reply to message #266846] |
Thu, 27 November 2014 02:39 |
Ken Burton
Messages: 10030 Registered: January 2004 Location: Hebron, Indiana
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roy1 wrote on Thu, 27 November 2014 00:32Harry wrote on Wed, 26 November 2014 18:33When I was running my 454 crewcab on propane, I carried a cheater hose. If I ever ran out I could use a 20 lb tank to transfer propane in to the big tank. I could hook up the hose to the 20 lb. and to the big tank. Turn the 20 lb upside down and open the valve. At this point propane is a liquid and it would run in to the big tank.
Like refrigerant that would work till the pressure equalized in the 2 tanks.
I have done that in the past. Actually with the two connected together and the second tank mounted / suspended higher, the liquid being heavier it would migrate from the top tank to the bottom. I do not know how long it takes as we always left them overnight and they were empty in the morning. The key was the top tank had to be inverted so it came out liquid.
Yes, it was all the same pressure but the liquid being heavier went to the bottom and the top tank ended up being all gas at the same pressure. With these new OPD valve protected tanks I do not know if the valve will work inverted. I do know that the larger and horizontal tanks do not have the OPD valve in them.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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Re: Propane fill up [message #266893 is a reply to message #266757] |
Sat, 29 November 2014 00:09 |
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John Heslinga
Messages: 632 Registered: February 2011 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Jarrar:
Living is a cold climate and trying not to let the cold stop me, I have to find ways to keep warm while working as late into the season as possible. I do not have a shop to work in. Having a 30,000 BTU Furnace in the coach the propane tank in the coach only last a few days. (If not too cold) Getting 30,000 BTUs out electricity is pretty hard!!! Usually it is impossible to go and get the coach propane tank filled, and even if I could it's usually too big a pain in the @#SS.
I can tell you from experience, that current propane bottles with OPD protection and the new Acme QCC Valves will not be able to transfer propane from the bottle to your coach tank. They are designed to slow the flow to a significant slow level that you will soon give up. I used to bring propane bottles to customers who "Ran out of Gas", However we used POL type valves (You will find though: that your "Propane Tech" will not fill a tank without the new valves)
To keep me warm without using the coach tank and to make getting propane easy for me in a small car I use two 20 pound BBQ propane bottles using this hose assembly.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/propane-easy-change-multiple-tanks/p52285-easy-change-propane-hose.html
You can see the bottles outside my coach (At the Back bumper but I can't believe there is so little snow in this picture)
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/propane-easy-change-multiple-tanks/p52288-easy-change-propane-hose.html
Connect the hose to your regulator as you see in the following picture.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/propane-easy-change-multiple-tanks/p52291-easy-change-propane-hose.html
One of the things I find however: during some of the real cold spells I have difficulties with the propane tanks in that they need more heat to help vapourize the gas so I use a heating pad around the tank. Especially below 1/4 tank. You will very unlikely need this living in California. (You can see how good propane is at being a refrigerant when you see the frost build up on the tank even at -15 degrees C (5 degrees F)
When I built another hose kit for a coach owner described here I made sure it used all CSA approved and labeled materials and hoses. (easy for me to get because I installed propane conversions but you can get them at your propane suppliers)
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/propane-easy-change-multiple-tanks/p56560-completed-easy-change-propane-hose.html
Look through the entire photo album for a clear description and discussion on building and using this hose kit.
Best of Luck
John
John and Cathie Heslinga
1974 Canyonlands 260
455, Manny tranny and 1 ton, 3:70 LS,
Red Seal Journeyman, DTE, BEd. MEd.
Edmonton, Alberta
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Re: [GMCnet] Propane fill up [message #266915 is a reply to message #266805] |
Sat, 29 November 2014 15:15 |
Jarrar
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powerjon wrote on Wed, 26 November 2014 12:45With the Picture site back up, here is how I run an external LP tank for service.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p46779-lp-tank-modification.html
and
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p46781-lp-tank-modification.html
and
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/general-pictures/p46778-lp-tank-modification.html
The green fiberglass tank is no longer available and was recalled in 2012. All the fittings are LP rated and can be found at most RV supply places. The current quick disconnects have a lock to prevent disconnect when open.
JR Wright
78 Buskirk Stretch
75 Avion
Michigan
> On Nov 26, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Robert Mueller wrote:
>
> AJ,
>
> AFAIK there isn't any way to fill the propane tank from another tank SAFELY.
>
> What I would suggest it that when the propane tank in your GMC is empty shut off the outlet valve and disconnect the fitting and
> Regulator from that tank and connect it to a BBQ propane tank. The hose should be long enough to connect the BBQ tank sitting
> outside the LPG compartment. I did exactly this on my '75 Avion.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of AJ
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:09 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] Propane fill up
>
> Hi,
>
> So I have my 77 23ft GMC parked in a spot where it is not easy to get in and out.
>
> I need at some point soon to fill the Propane tank, it is the type that is not removable.
>
> Is there a way to do this without driving the whole rig down to the propane place?
>
> Will they lend me a propane tank to fill mine with then I can return theirs?
>
> Thoughts, ideas ??
>
> Thank you,
> AJ
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This is a great idea.
Where do I get a BBQ tank and how much does it cost?
Would the small Lantern type bottles work, can I connect those?
And do I have to pull my RV tank out to get to the hose ?
Thanks.
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Re: Propane fill up [message #266916 is a reply to message #266893] |
Sat, 29 November 2014 15:47 |
Jarrar
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John Heslinga wrote on Fri, 28 November 2014 22:09Jarrar:
Living is a cold climate and trying not to let the cold stop me, I have to find ways to keep warm while working as late into the season as possible. I do not have a shop to work in. Having a 30,000 BTU Furnace in the coach the propane tank in the coach only last a few days. (If not too cold) Getting 30,000 BTUs out electricity is pretty hard!!! Usually it is impossible to go and get the coach propane tank filled, and even if I could it's usually too big a pain in the @#SS.
I can tell you from experience, that current propane bottles with OPD protection and the new Acme QCC Valves will not be able to transfer propane from the bottle to your coach tank. They are designed to slow the flow to a significant slow level that you will soon give up. I used to bring propane bottles to customers who "Ran out of Gas", However we used POL type valves (You will find though: that your "Propane Tech" will not fill a tank without the new valves)
To keep me warm without using the coach tank and to make getting propane easy for me in a small car I use two 20 pound BBQ propane bottles using this hose assembly.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/propane-easy-change-multiple-tanks/p52285-easy-change-propane-hose.html
You can see the bottles outside my coach (At the Back bumper but I can't believe there is so little snow in this picture)
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/propane-easy-change-multiple-tanks/p52288-easy-change-propane-hose.html
Connect the hose to your regulator as you see in the following picture.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/propane-easy-change-multiple-tanks/p52291-easy-change-propane-hose.html
One of the things I find however: during some of the real cold spells I have difficulties with the propane tanks in that they need more heat to help vapourize the gas so I use a heating pad around the tank. Especially below 1/4 tank. You will very unlikely need this living in California. (You can see how good propane is at being a refrigerant when you see the frost build up on the tank even at -15 degrees C (5 degrees F)
When I built another hose kit for a coach owner described here I made sure it used all CSA approved and labeled materials and hoses. (easy for me to get because I installed propane conversions but you can get them at your propane suppliers)
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/propane-easy-change-multiple-tanks/p56560-completed-easy-change-propane-hose.html
Look through the entire photo album for a clear description and discussion on building and using this hose kit.
Best of Luck
John
Hi John,
Thank you.
So would the hose in the RV reach an outside propane tank or do I need to buy hoses like you show in the photos?
And how much are these hoses? I imagine they are not cheap. Or can I get them used somewhere ?
Thanks,
AJ
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Re: Propane fill up [message #266932 is a reply to message #266757] |
Sat, 29 November 2014 23:58 |
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John Heslinga
Messages: 632 Registered: February 2011 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Some Answers to Some Questions
Jarrar:
Re The following Questions
Quote:
This is a great idea.
Where do I get a BBQ tank and how much does it cost?
Would the small Lantern type bottles work, can I connect those?
And do I have to pull my RV tank out to get to the hose ?
---Where do I get a BBQ tank and how much does it cost?
20 pound (other sizes too) BBQ Bottles can be purchased in most hardware type retail outlets and Walmart (Walmart is everywhere: right?) the 20 pound tanks are usually the most common and cost effective. Even some of the corner convenience and grocery stores seem to now have exchange Bottles. (You buy the first one and keep exchanging it for a full one.) Here in Edmonton, I've been able to buy them as low as $19.00 at Costco but usually I see them well over that. It also depends on the style. Some have level indicators and that usually is more expensive. It looks like the exchange styles were about $45.00 including first fill. Under DOT Rules they will expire in 10 years and usually buying new is cheaper than re-certifying. Propane Bottles fall under DOT Rules whereas our Permanent mounted Tanks fall under ASME Rules, which do not require the same re-certification.
---Would the small Lantern type bottles work, can I connect those?
Yes: You could using one of these kinds of adaptors. One is temporary the other is permanent
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/propane-easy-change-multiple-tanks/p56572-acme-pigtail-to-1-pound-canister-adaptor.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/propane-easy-change-multiple-tanks/p56575-canister-one-pound-connection.html
However you will find that a 16 Once Canister will be a very short solution to energy use in a coach. It will run a small stove for a few dinners or keep an absorption fridge running for a few hours. It would be more of an emergency item than anything else.
There are many types of adaptors available for many uses. If you do not have a propane supplier in your neck of the wood, a simple Internet search will usually return pretty well anything you need.
--- And do I have to pull my RV tank out to get to the hose?
No .The Tank in the coach has everything accessable from the front. As soon as you open the hatch everything is right there. Simply close the propane valve, disconnect the POL connection (Left Hand Thread) and connect the new hose to the regulator side.
A. J.
Re The following Questions
Quote:So would the hose in the RV reach an outside propane tank or do I need to buy hoses like you show in the photos?
And how much are these hoses? I imagine they are not cheap. Or can I get them used somewhere ?
--- So would the hose in the RV reach an outside propane tank or do I need to buy hoses like you show in the photos?
The Hose or Piping in our coach was designed to fit the location of the vehicle tank outlet. If it is long enough there is not enough flexibility in placing your tank in a place where it is out of the way. I would also really avoid the extreme flexing of your old hose. (my coach would not flex enough anyway) The long hose permitted me to put the two tanks behind the bumper and saved me from tripping over everything as I walked past the coach. It also allowed me to keep the propane door closed.
--- And how much are these hoses? I imagine they are not cheap. Or can I get them used somewhere?
The hoses are really quite affordable and worth their cost because you can feel confident that they will not leak. The shorter pigtails and check tee should be available at the RV store but I find them to be way more expensive than a propane outlet or custom hose maker. (we have one in town) Long hose about $20 to $35. I think. They will also put the proper fitting on both ends so you do not need to use adaptors. (LH to RH or one size to another if needed) I do not know of a source for used parts.
Best Regards
John and Cathie Heslinga
1974 Canyonlands 260
455, Manny tranny and 1 ton, 3:70 LS,
Red Seal Journeyman, DTE, BEd. MEd.
Edmonton, Alberta
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Re: [GMCnet] Propane fill up [message #267162 is a reply to message #266893] |
Thu, 04 December 2014 17:31 |
Wayne Newland
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Everybody in the world may already know this, but an LP guy showed me that
an old style LP hose can be used with a new style bottle. The old hose
screws inside the brass fitting, where as the new hose screws onto the
outside. Now, I don't have to buy a new Extend A Stay hose.
Wayne Newland F9300 75 Palm Beach Sebastian, FL
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of John
Heslinga
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 1:10 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Propane fill up
Jarrar:
Living is a cold climate and trying not to let the cold stop me, I have to
find ways to keep warm while working as late into the season as possible.
I do not have a shop to work in. Having a 30,000 BTU Furnace in the coach
the propane tank in the coach only last a few days. (If not too cold)
Getting 30,000 BTUs out electricity is pretty hard!!! Usually it is
impossible to go and get the coach propane tank filled, and even if I could
it's
usually too big a pain in the @#SS.
I can tell you from experience, that current propane bottles with OPD
protection and the new Acme QCC Valves will not be able to transfer propane
from the bottle to your coach tank. They are designed to slow the flow to a
significant slow level that you will soon give up. I used to bring propane
bottles to customers who "Ran out of Gas", However we used POL type valves
(You will find though: that your "Propane Tech" will not fill a tank without
the new valves)
To keep me warm without using the coach tank and to make getting propane
easy for me in a small car I use two 20 pound BBQ propane bottles using this
hose assembly.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/propane-easy-change-multiple-tanks/p52285-
easy-change-propane-hose.html
You can see the bottles outside my coach (At the Back bumper but I can't
believe there is so little snow in this picture)
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/propane-easy-change-multiple-tanks/p52288-
easy-change-propane-hose.html
Connect the hose to your regulator as you see in the following picture.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/propane-easy-change-multiple-tanks/p52291-
easy-change-propane-hose.html
One of the things I find however: during some of the real cold spells I have
difficulties with the propane tanks in that they need more heat to help
vapourize the gas so I use a heating pad around the tank. Especially below
1/4 tank. You will very unlikely need this living in California. (You can
see how good propane is at being a refrigerant when you see the frost build
up on the tank even at -15 degrees C (5 degrees F)
When I built another hose kit for a coach owner described here I made sure
it used all CSA approved and labeled materials and hoses. (easy for me to
get because I installed propane conversions but you can get them at your
propane suppliers)
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/propane-easy-change-multiple-tanks/p56560-
completed-easy-change-propane-hose.html
Look through the entire photo album for a clear description and discussion
on building and using this hose kit.
Best of Luck
John
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John and Cathie Heslinga
1974 Canyonlands 260
455, Manny tranny and 1 ton, 3:73 LS,
TC4W "Too Cool For Words"
Retirement Projects Galore
Edmonton, Alberta
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Re: Propane fill up [message #267174 is a reply to message #266757] |
Fri, 05 December 2014 02:06 |
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John Heslinga
Messages: 632 Registered: February 2011 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Regarding
Quote:Everybody in the world may already know this, but an LP guy showed me that
an old style LP hose can be used with a new style bottle. The old hose
screws inside the brass fitting, where as the new hose screws onto the
outside.
Yup. Needs Wrench, Has left hand thread, and is harder to start. But it works.
John and Cathie Heslinga
1974 Canyonlands 260
455, Manny tranny and 1 ton, 3:70 LS,
Red Seal Journeyman, DTE, BEd. MEd.
Edmonton, Alberta
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