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Wed, 05 November 2014 23:23  |
Guy Lopes
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Hello all,
When looking around at coaches for sale, is there an easy way to tell if a
GMC has a Manny Tranny installed? In other words, does he do anything
externally that would make one of his transmissions identifiable?
Thanks,
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tranny Identification [message #265532 is a reply to message #265525] |
Thu, 06 November 2014 04:45  |
midlf
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TAWPTool wrote on Wed, 05 November 2014 23:23Hello all,
When looking around at coaches for sale, is there an easy way to tell if a
GMC has a Manny Tranny installed? In other words, does he do anything
externally that would make one of his transmissions identifiable?
Thanks,
Guy Lopes
There was nothing I noticed on mine. I suggest you call Manny. He would be the one to know for sure.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tranny Identification [message #265533 is a reply to message #265532] |
Thu, 06 November 2014 05:26 |
George Zhookoff
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Manny uses stainless steel bolts on his rebuilds.
George Zhookoff
> On Nov 6, 2014, at 5:46 AM, "Steve Southworth" wrote:
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> TAWPTool wrote on Wed, 05 November 2014 23:23
>> Hello all,
>>
>> When looking around at coaches for sale, is there an easy way to tell if a
>> GMC has a Manny Tranny installed? In other words, does he do anything
>> externally that would make one of his transmissions identifiable?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Guy Lopes
>
>
> There was nothing I noticed on mine. I suggest you call Manny. He would be the one to know for sure.
> --
> Steve Southworth
> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
> 1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
> Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tranny Identification [message #265542 is a reply to message #265525] |
Thu, 06 November 2014 08:50 |
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John Heslinga
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Later ones used powder coated chain covers.
John and Cathie Heslinga
1974 Canyonlands 260
455, Manny tranny and 1 ton, 3:70 LS,
Red Seal Journeyman, DTE, BEd. MEd.
Edmonton, Alberta
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tranny Identification [message #265563 is a reply to message #265542] |
Thu, 06 November 2014 15:59 |
Ken Henderson
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You definitely CANNOT go by the chain covers being powder coated. Not one
of the 5 he built here last year had that feature, and I doubt the
logistics in Orlando allow him to do it there either.
ALL stainless steel bolts is the best clue.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI & EBL,
Manny Brakes & 1-Ton, etc., etc.
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On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 6:50 AM, John Heslinga wrote:
> Later ones used powder coated chain covers.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tranny Identification [message #265566 is a reply to message #265525] |
Thu, 06 November 2014 16:54 |
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John Heslinga
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YIKES!!!
Quote:You definitely CANNOT go by the chain covers being powder coated. Not one
of the 5 he built here last year had that feature,
Just goes to say there really is not much on the outside that really identifies his transmission.
In 2011 when he did mine. He was pretty proud that he got the covers coated. He only used the stainless fasteners inside the tranny at that time too. Therefore he must have run out and not done any more. (He had a pretty good supply at the time)
I suspect somone should ask him to reply directly.
(Something like "directly from the horse's mouth."  )
Sorry for steering you wrong!
John and Cathie Heslinga
1974 Canyonlands 260
455, Manny tranny and 1 ton, 3:70 LS,
Red Seal Journeyman, DTE, BEd. MEd.
Edmonton, Alberta
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tranny Identification [message #265571 is a reply to message #265566] |
Thu, 06 November 2014 17:27 |
Mr ERFisher
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On Thursday, November 6, 2014, John Heslinga wrote:
> YIKES!!!
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> Quote:
>> You definitely CANNOT go by the chain covers being powder coated. Not one
>> of the 5 he built here last year had that feature,
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> Just goes to say there really is not much on the outside that really
> identifies his transmission.
But
He knows the serial numbers of every tranny he has rebuilt..
Some vendors are trying to get manny to warranty their junk rebuilds
Only manny builds or buys the correct parts
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> In 2011 when he did mine. He was pretty proud that he got the covers
> coated. He only used the stainless fasteners inside the tranny at that
> time too.
> Therefore he must have run out and not done any more. (He had a pretty
> good supply at the time)
> I suspect somone should ask him to reply directly.
>
> (Something like "directly from the horse's mouth." ;) )
>
> Sorry for steering you wrong!
> --
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> 1974 Canyonlands 260
> 455, Manny tranny and 1 ton, 3:73 LS,
> TC4W "Too Cool For Words"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tranny Identification [message #265573 is a reply to message #265525] |
Thu, 06 November 2014 18:08 |
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John Heslinga
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Rob:
Re:
Quote:Both the transmissions I got from Manny use these types of flanged bolts on the chain case cover and the transmission pan.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#hex-head-flange-cap-screws/=uhd25b
Mine and the two others he built at the same time, had the identified flange bolts that were not stainless.
(I was fortunate enough to be with him when he was doing the rebuilds. It really added to my knowledge of how the 425 was put together. )
John and Cathie Heslinga
1974 Canyonlands 260
455, Manny tranny and 1 ton, 3:70 LS,
Red Seal Journeyman, DTE, BEd. MEd.
Edmonton, Alberta
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tranny Identification [message #265574 is a reply to message #265569] |
Thu, 06 November 2014 18:03 |
Ken Henderson
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Rob,
I presume you're talking about the SS versions. When I asked Manny "Why
SS?", his reply was that he started using them early on and now it's his
trademark so he can't quit. But if it came to "fix it without SS" or
"don't fix it", he'd probably fix it.
Ken H.
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Robert Mueller
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> Ken,
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> Both the transmissions I got from Manny use these types of flanged bolts
> on the chain case cover and the transmission pan.
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> http://www.mcmaster.com/#hex-head-flange-cap-screws/=uhd25b
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> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Henderson
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> You definitely CANNOT go by the chain covers being powder coated. Not
> one of the 5 he built here last year had that feature, and I
> doubt the logistics in Orlando allow him to do it there either.
>
> ALL stainless steel bolts is the best clue.
>
> Ken H.
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tranny Identification [message #265577 is a reply to message #265573] |
Thu, 06 November 2014 18:22 |
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Ken / John,
Perhaps my comment should have read:
I believe Manny uses flange bolts whereas the factory did not.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: John Heslinga
Mine and the two others he built at the same time, had the identified flange bolts that were not stainless.
(I was fortunate enough to be with him when he was doing the rebuilds. It really added to my knowledge of how the 425 was put
together. )
--
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Henderson
Rob,
I presume you're talking about the SS versions. When I asked Manny "Why SS?", his reply was that he started using them early on and
now it's his trademark so he can't quit. But if it came to "fix it without SS" or "don't fix it", he'd probably fix it.
Ken H.
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tranny Identification [message #265578 is a reply to message #265577] |
Thu, 06 November 2014 19:17 |
Ken Henderson
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Nope, that don't compute neither: I've seen flanged bolts on several
factory-fresh 425's.
Ken H.
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Robert Mueller
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> Ken / John,
>
> Perhaps my comment should have read:
>
> I believe Manny uses flange bolts whereas the factory did not.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Heslinga
>
> Mine and the two others he built at the same time, had the identified
> flange bolts that were not stainless.
>
> (I was fortunate enough to be with him when he was doing the rebuilds. It
> really added to my knowledge of how the 425 was put
> together. )
> --
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Henderson
>
> Rob,
>
> I presume you're talking about the SS versions. When I asked Manny "Why
> SS?", his reply was that he started using them early on and
> now it's his trademark so he can't quit. But if it came to "fix it
> without SS" or "don't fix it", he'd probably fix it.
>
> Ken H.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tranny Identification [message #265580 is a reply to message #265525] |
Thu, 06 November 2014 20:03 |
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John Heslinga
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Hi Guys:
I only have the experience of 1 (one) time so anything goes with the way Manny does things I Guess. (Im glad to say, I've only had to buy one tranny) Here are some pictures or what I got in 2011. Maybe they will help someone.
Read the photo captions for more information.
Here is what I did when I installed mine. (Stamped the Transmission Tag)
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/discussion-photos/p56404-i-stamped-the-manny-tr.html
Here are three pictures of the transmission as it came home with me. (I had to install the final drive (3.70 limited slip)
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/discussion-photos/p56407-drivers-side-transmission-as-delivered.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/discussion-photos/p56410-passenger-side-of-transmission-as-delivered.html
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/discussion-photos/p56413-powder-coated-chain-cover-and-new-flange-bolts.html
Finally the Transmission ready to install into the coach.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/discussion-photos/p56422-completed-transmission-set-aside-for-installation.html
And Just before installation
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/discussion-photos/p56419-transmission-ready-to-install.html
Best Regards
John
John and Cathie Heslinga
1974 Canyonlands 260
455, Manny tranny and 1 ton, 3:70 LS,
Red Seal Journeyman, DTE, BEd. MEd.
Edmonton, Alberta
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