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Fri, 31 October 2014 01:18  |
Guy Lopes
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In a previous email I asked about any GMCs for sale for my Sister and
Brother in-law. After looking at several, they have narrowed down their idea
of a perfect coach for them. They are now actively looking for a 26' Avion
model with two twin beds in the back. Please let me know if you have one for
sale or know of one.
Thank you,
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL
www.GMC-Guy.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted [message #265168 is a reply to message #265166] |
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Guy,
Definitely an intelligent, discerning couple! ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Guy Lopes
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 5:18 PM
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Subject: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted
In a previous email I asked about any GMCs for sale for my Sister and
Brother in-law. After looking at several, they have narrowed down their idea
of a perfect coach for them. They are now actively looking for a 26' Avion
model with two twin beds in the back. Please let me know if you have one for
sale or know of one.
Thank you,
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted [message #265169 is a reply to message #265168] |
Fri, 31 October 2014 01:39 |
Guy Lopes
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Hahaha I agree. They have also had some expert guidance. I miss my Avion!
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL
www.GMC-Guy.com
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Mueller
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted
Guy,
Definitely an intelligent, discerning couple! ;-)
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble
TZE365V100426
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Lopes
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 5:18 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted
In a previous email I asked about any GMCs for sale for my Sister and
Brother in-law. After looking at several, they have narrowed down their idea
of a perfect coach for them. They are now actively looking for a 26' Avion
model with two twin beds in the back. Please let me know if you have one for
sale or know of one.
Thank you,
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted [message #265173 is a reply to message #265169] |
Fri, 31 October 2014 03:48 |
cadelec
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an edgemont has the same layout so this may be another option
Trevor
Brisbane Australia
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| Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted [message #265174 is a reply to message #265166] |
Fri, 31 October 2014 05:10 |
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mike miller
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TAWPTool wrote on Thu, 30 October 2014 23:18... They are now actively looking for a 26' Avion
model with two twin beds in the back. Please let me know if you have one for
sale or know of one. ...
Guy
There is one that has been sitting by I84 in The Dalles Oregon.
I once tracked down the owner about 5 or 6 years ago. I didn't ever get to actually look at it other than driving by at 65mph. He might be ready to sell by now as the coach hasn't moved.
Google gives this location: 45.617358,-121.209755
It would most likely be a project as it has been sitting for a LONG time.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted [message #265207 is a reply to message #265182] |
Fri, 31 October 2014 15:57 |
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USAussie
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RC,
Thanks for bringing that up, I forgot to!
I am 6' 1" and I sleep OK in Double Trouble, HOWEVER, when I rebuild The Blue Streak I intend to steal 3-4 inches from the closet
and extend the bed.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: RC Jordan
Are they tall? Be sure to check the lengths of the rear twins.
Royale = 74" x 34"
Avion = 75" x 34"
Edgemont = 77" x wider than 34" but I can't remember how wide
http://gmc.mybirdfeeder.net/GMCforum/index.php?t=msg&th=23333&goto=183405&rid=0#msg_183405
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'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted [message #265208 is a reply to message #265166] |
Fri, 31 October 2014 16:09 |
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>extend the bed
6-1 here, too. I had JimB cut the Royale's wardrobe in half to lengthen my side.
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted [message #265215 is a reply to message #265166] |
Fri, 31 October 2014 18:36 |
pickle4k
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The twin beds is why I am selling my Norris built 23 footer. More work to upgrade the Avion, but it is nice to be in. My GF loves it too and she is the picky one. Good luck finding an Avion.
Nick R. NorCal
76-23'Transmode-Norris
Rear Bath and
75-26' Avion
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| Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted [message #265229 is a reply to message #265222] |
Sat, 01 November 2014 00:29 |
Guy Lopes
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Thanks Rob, RC and all.
I showed this ad to my Bro in-law and suggested that if this is something
that he would be interested in, he could buy the coach, have it shipped to
JimB in Orlando, get a rebuilt engine and tranny, new air bags and new 16"
wheels and tires and be into it for around $15k. Not a bad price for the
coach that you want with reliable running gear. THEN he might have to spend
several thousand more to clean up and repair everything else. Still not a
bad price for what he would get.
Just trying to give him some options.
Guy Lopes
76 Birchaven "Orion"
Sacramento, CA
W6TOL
www.GMC-Guy.com
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Mueller
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 6:21 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted
G'day,
RC provided this link: https://greenville.craigslist.org/rvs/4704698139.html
I reviewed the photos here's some comments:
1) the dresser between the beds is missing, This is one of the BEST features
of an Avion. There is a pull out table in the top that turns the bedroom
into a second dinette. If you are interested ask the seller if it comes with
the coach.
2) the driver and passenger seats have been reversed
3) the cabinets in the bedroom are down - no big deal
4) fridge is missing - no big deal
5) two roof airs, front is a replacement carrier the rear appears to be OEM
Dometic
6) upholstery appears to be in good condition and mattresses are upholstered
7) woodwork looks good
8) headliner appears to be in good shape
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble
TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted [message #265232 is a reply to message #265229] |
Sat, 01 November 2014 03:42 |
cadelec
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Do you specifically want the avion or just the similar twin bed layout this edgemont seems to have had most done and ready to roll
http://http://www.gmcmh.com/Morris.htm
Trevor
Brisbane Australia
Siesta Koala 76 Edgemont (old Bobby Moores)
71 Cadillac Eldo Convert
58 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham Project
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| Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted [message #265246 is a reply to message #265166] |
Sat, 01 November 2014 10:57 |
rcjordan
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>$1500 at most
That's my thought, too. It's been on CL for a few months now. As I recall, it was $4500 when I first ran across it.
I'd go with the Edgemont and maybe save 2 years and $30-40k.
SOLD 77 Royale Coachmen Side Dry Bath
76 Birchaven Coachmen Side Wet Bath
76 Eleganza
Elizabeth City, NC
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| Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted [message #265257 is a reply to message #265229] |
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USAussie
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Guy,
In my opinion your estimated budget is very optimistic.
Using JimK's website for parts to RESTORE THE AVION'S RUNNING GEAR TO OEM CONDITION here's a PESSIMISTIC guesstimate:
1) Brakes: M/C = $50, Combination Valve = $99, Calipers = $100, Carbon Metallic Pads = $65, Sensitized Booster = $250, Front Braided
SS Lines = $76, Rear Braided SS Lines = $150, Middle & Rear wheel cylinders = $50, Carbon Metallic Brake Shoes = $160: Total: $1000.
2) Steering: Lower Steering Column (AKA Intermediate Steering Shaft) = $524, Steering Box = $360, Idler Arm = $220, Relay Lever =
$360, Tie Rod Ends = $326, Steering Damper = $40: Total: $1830
3) Front Suspension: Upper & Lower Control Arm Bushings = $160, Upper Ball Joints = $120, Lower Ball Joints = $250, Shocks = $124,
Stabilizer Bar Grommets = $16, Stabilizer Bar End Link Set = $28, Rebuilt Knuckles = $510, Rebuilt Knuckles = $490, Front Wheel
Bearings & Seals = 160; Total: $1658
4) Rear Suspension: OEM Air Bags = $840, Ride Height Control Panel (JR) = $380, Ride Height Valves = $186, Shocks = $244, Rear Wheel
Bearings = $250, Rear Bogie Pins = $700, Air Pump = $250: Total: $2630
5) Engine: Coop / Ken Koba = $6500, Dick Paterson = $7500
6) Transmission: Manny Trovao: $1600
7) Final Drive: $1550
8) Body: Pads = $75
Brakes = $1000
Steering= $1830
Front Suspension = $1658
Rear Suspension = $2630
Engine = $6500 / $7500
Transmission = $1600
Final Drive = $1550
Body: $75
Total Parts = $16843 / $17843
YES, this could be considered a WORST CASE SCENARIO but when all these new parts were installed you would have a GMC with fully
restored OEM running gear.
YES, there are upgrades that would be good to install that could reduce the cost, HOWEVER, as stated in the second sentence above
my intent was to RESTORE the Avion to OEM condition.
II reckon the labor costs for all this would run between $8k to $10k. I have not considered shipping costs.
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Guy Lopes
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 4:30 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted
Thanks Rob, RC and all.
I showed this ad to my Bro in-law and suggested that if this is something
that he would be interested in, he could buy the coach, have it shipped to
JimB in Orlando, get a rebuilt engine and tranny, new air bags and new 16"
wheels and tires and be into it for around $15k. Not a bad price for the
coach that you want with reliable running gear. THEN he might have to spend
several thousand more to clean up and repair everything else. Still not a
bad price for what he would get.
Just trying to give him some options.
Guy
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Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted [message #265259 is a reply to message #265257] |
Sat, 01 November 2014 16:38 |
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Rob
Ever the optimist Buddy !
If we were closer to Christmas you'd easily be confused with the Grinch !
Just kidding...you are probably right!!
Mike in NS
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Robert Mueller
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> Guy,
>
> In my opinion your estimated budget is very optimistic.
>
> Using JimK's website for parts to RESTORE THE AVION'S RUNNING GEAR TO OEM
> CONDITION here's a PESSIMISTIC guesstimate:
>
> 1) Brakes: M/C = $50, Combination Valve = $99, Calipers = $100, Carbon
> Metallic Pads = $65, Sensitized Booster = $250, Front Braided
> SS Lines = $76, Rear Braided SS Lines = $150, Middle & Rear wheel
> cylinders = $50, Carbon Metallic Brake Shoes = $160: Total: $1000.
>
> 2) Steering: Lower Steering Column (AKA Intermediate Steering Shaft) =
> $524, Steering Box = $360, Idler Arm = $220, Relay Lever =
> $360, Tie Rod Ends = $326, Steering Damper = $40: Total: $1830
>
> 3) Front Suspension: Upper & Lower Control Arm Bushings = $160, Upper Ball
> Joints = $120, Lower Ball Joints = $250, Shocks = $124,
> Stabilizer Bar Grommets = $16, Stabilizer Bar End Link Set = $28, Rebuilt
> Knuckles = $510, Rebuilt Knuckles = $490, Front Wheel
> Bearings & Seals = 160; Total: $1658
>
> 4) Rear Suspension: OEM Air Bags = $840, Ride Height Control Panel (JR) =
> $380, Ride Height Valves = $186, Shocks = $244, Rear Wheel
> Bearings = $250, Rear Bogie Pins = $700, Air Pump = $250: Total: $2630
>
> 5) Engine: Coop / Ken Koba = $6500, Dick Paterson = $7500
>
> 6) Transmission: Manny Trovao: $1600
>
> 7) Final Drive: $1550
>
> 8) Body: Pads = $75
>
> Brakes = $1000
> Steering= $1830
> Front Suspension = $1658
> Rear Suspension = $2630
> Engine = $6500 / $7500
> Transmission = $1600
> Final Drive = $1550
> Body: $75
> Total Parts = $16843 / $17843
>
> YES, this could be considered a WORST CASE SCENARIO but when all these new
> parts were installed you would have a GMC with fully
> restored OEM running gear.
>
> YES, there are upgrades that would be good to install that could reduce
> the cost, HOWEVER, as stated in the second sentence above
> my intent was to RESTORE the Avion to OEM condition.
>
> II reckon the labor costs for all this would run between $8k to $10k. I
> have not considered shipping costs.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Guy
> Lopes
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 4:30 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted
>
> Thanks Rob, RC and all.
>
> I showed this ad to my Bro in-law and suggested that if this is something
> that he would be interested in, he could buy the coach, have it shipped to
> JimB in Orlando, get a rebuilt engine and tranny, new air bags and new 16"
> wheels and tires and be into it for around $15k. Not a bad price for the
> coach that you want with reliable running gear. THEN he might have to spend
> several thousand more to clean up and repair everything else. Still not a
> bad price for what he would get.
>
> Just trying to give him some options.
>
> Guy
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted [message #265260 is a reply to message #265259] |
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Mike,
Of course I am right, I was only wrong once and that was when I thought I was wrong! ;-)
BTW I realized I forgot about wheels and tires! So the following needs to be added:
Eagle Wheels (7) = $1800
Tires = (7) = $1000
Total: $2800
I am of the opinion that people who decide to get into a GMC are aware of what it COULD cost with their eyes wide open and not go
buy one only to find out they're going to have to spend a bomb to get it road worthy and they can't afford it!
I am FULLY aware that there are cases like Jared up in Washington that got a GMC for $500 that is in terrific shape, however, in my
opinion that happens a lot less frequently than someone buys one only to find out it's going to cost him a motsa to get it into good
running order.
I am NOT talking about making it look nice; I am talking about getting it into good safe running order!
BTW I am NOT interested in arguing with anybody about the costs I have presented; to make it 100% clear I reiterate I consider this
to be a PESSIMISTIC WORST CASE SCENARIO!
Regards,
Rob M.
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Kingsley Coach
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2014 8:38 AM
To: Gmclist
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted
Rob
Ever the optimist Buddy !
If we were closer to Christmas you'd easily be confused with the Grinch !
Just kidding...you are probably right!!
Mike in NS
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Robert Mueller
wrote:
> Guy,
>
> In my opinion your estimated budget is very optimistic.
>
> Using JimK's website for parts to RESTORE THE AVION'S RUNNING GEAR TO OEM
> CONDITION here's a PESSIMISTIC guesstimate:
>
> 1) Brakes: M/C = $50, Combination Valve = $99, Calipers = $100, Carbon
> Metallic Pads = $65, Sensitized Booster = $250, Front Braided
> SS Lines = $76, Rear Braided SS Lines = $150, Middle & Rear wheel
> cylinders = $50, Carbon Metallic Brake Shoes = $160: Total: $1000.
>
> 2) Steering: Lower Steering Column (AKA Intermediate Steering Shaft) =
> $524, Steering Box = $360, Idler Arm = $220, Relay Lever =
> $360, Tie Rod Ends = $326, Steering Damper = $40: Total: $1830
>
> 3) Front Suspension: Upper & Lower Control Arm Bushings = $160, Upper Ball
> Joints = $120, Lower Ball Joints = $250, Shocks = $124,
> Stabilizer Bar Grommets = $16, Stabilizer Bar End Link Set = $28, Rebuilt
> Knuckles = $510, Rebuilt Knuckles = $490, Front Wheel
> Bearings & Seals = 160; Total: $1658
>
> 4) Rear Suspension: OEM Air Bags = $840, Ride Height Control Panel (JR) =
> $380, Ride Height Valves = $186, Shocks = $244, Rear Wheel
> Bearings = $250, Rear Bogie Pins = $700, Air Pump = $250: Total: $2630
>
> 5) Engine: Coop / Ken Koba = $6500, Dick Paterson = $7500
>
> 6) Transmission: Manny Trovao: $1600
>
> 7) Final Drive: $1550
>
> 8) Body: Pads = $75
>
> Brakes = $1000
> Steering= $1830
> Front Suspension = $1658
> Rear Suspension = $2630
> Engine = $6500 / $7500
> Transmission = $1600
> Final Drive = $1550
> Body: $75
> Total Parts = $16843 / $17843
>
> YES, this could be considered a WORST CASE SCENARIO but when all these new
> parts were installed you would have a GMC with fully
> restored OEM running gear.
>
> YES, there are upgrades that would be good to install that could reduce
> the cost, HOWEVER, as stated in the second sentence above
> my intent was to RESTORE the Avion to OEM condition.
>
> II reckon the labor costs for all this would run between $8k to $10k. I
> have not considered shipping costs.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gmclist [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Guy
> Lopes
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 4:30 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Avion Wanted
>
> Thanks Rob, RC and all.
>
> I showed this ad to my Bro in-law and suggested that if this is something
> that he would be interested in, he could buy the coach, have it shipped to
> JimB in Orlando, get a rebuilt engine and tranny, new air bags and new 16"
> wheels and tires and be into it for around $15k. Not a bad price for the
> coach that you want with reliable running gear. THEN he might have to spend
> several thousand more to clean up and repair everything else. Still not a
> bad price for what he would get.
>
> Just trying to give him some options.
>
> Guy
>
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Michael Beaton
1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS
I am not an alcoholic; alcoholics go to meetings.
I am a drunk; I go to parties !
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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