| Buzz box replacement [message #263631] |
Mon, 06 October 2014 22:21  |
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Husker92592
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Progressive Dynamics Inc. Intelli-Power PD9140AV
I have seen some of you guys have replaced the buzz box with the above unit, or similar does anyone have a wiring diagram that aid the install of this in our coaches?
Thanks
Grant
1974 26'
TZE064V101005
1974 GMC Sequoia 26'
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| Re: Buzz box replacement [message #263635 is a reply to message #263631] |
Mon, 06 October 2014 22:35  |
Otterwan
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There is no wiring diagram really. The unit plugs into the same outlet as the buzzbox, and the 12 volt + and - wires to the same place as the ones on the buzz box. Easy peasy.
1977 Birchaven, Lynnwood WA - "We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us."
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| Re: Buzz box replacement [message #263636 is a reply to message #263631] |
Mon, 06 October 2014 22:38 |
GeorgeRud
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I put one of the Progressive Dynamics converters in my coach, and it works great. I just used the wiring diagram supplied with the unit, but if you don't have one, I could probably copy and send one your way.
I also took the opportunity to replace the fuse panel with one that has more circuits and uses the newer style ATO fuses to allow for future upgrades as desired.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: Buzz box replacement [message #263637 is a reply to message #263631] |
Mon, 06 October 2014 22:40 |
GeorgeRud
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Be sure to save the old Buzz box as it does make a nice 12 volt source for use on your workbench. It sure is heavy!
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: Buzz box replacement [message #263672 is a reply to message #263631] |
Tue, 07 October 2014 07:33 |
mickey szilagyi
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We installed a PD9260 on the back wall of the electric closet. We couldn't loosen the ground screw that the buz box was grounded to so we cut the main ground to the buz box just behind the buz box. We left enough on the buz box in case we wanted to connect another ground to it to use as a bench 12V source. We had enough of the old ground cable to attach to the PD9260. We ran the second ground from the PD9260 to another screw right next to the old ground on the aluminum ground plate. We drilled a new hole for this new ground. Didn't make sense to have to run the second ground like that but we did anyway as the instructions stated. We've had this working since last year and everything has been working perfectly. Make sure you put dielectric grease on all the connections and clean them up before you do.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/g6410-new-pd9260-converter.html
Mickey
1977 Kingsley, 403, Lansing, MI
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| Re: Buzz box replacement [message #263678 is a reply to message #263672] |
Tue, 07 October 2014 08:45 |
tphipps
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Use the PD92XX0 series. They have the intelligence for control built in, instead of using a dongle. Third and fourth digit represents amperage rating. 45 amp model is adequate for the GMC. Iota DLS series are similiar in design and work just as well. Xantrex also makes them. I am sure there are other choices on the market. Stay away from Chinese junk.
Look on PD web site for refurbished ones.
Tom, MS II
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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| Re: [GMCnet] Buzz box replacement [message #263863 is a reply to message #263860] |
Thu, 09 October 2014 17:35 |
Nelson
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Matt,
Thank you for that reply. That was what I thought was happening. Now when I am using my chop saw i won't have to wait on the battery recharging, as most of the time this saw is located next to a wall outlet. Kinda makes one wonder why these AC powered devices aren't on the market place, or maybe they are but I haven't seen any. Anyway now here is another use for the old Buzz Box ( GMC M/H content).
Nelson Wright
Orlando FL
78 Royale rear bath
On Oct 9, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Matt Colie wrote:
> Nelson wrote on Wed, 08 October 2014 15:38
>> All this talk about using the Buzz box for a 12 volt DC power source got me thinking. I have been looking for a 120 AC power source to run my
>> 18VDC battery powered Ryobi tools when the batteries are down, so I checked the Buzz box output and find that it puts out 15VDC at no load. Next I
>> converted a dead battery case to accept the out put cables from the Buzz box and plugged this in my Ryobi cut off saw. The saw seems to run slower
>> but with more umph. What does the braintrust think about this? Will the lower voltage harm the tools?
>>
>> Nelson Wright
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> Nelson,
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> What you report is exactly what I would expect. The unloaded speed may be lower, but the full load speed will not be. This is simply because the
> voltage sag that the battery pack had is not there. The only problem you may run into is that the current at stall - like when you jam the saw blade
> or drill bit - used to be limited by the battery pack's current limit. That limit was a long ways from 40 amps. So, use it, just don't jam it.
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> Matt
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> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving the Applied Rear Brake Control Arms
> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Buzz box replacement [message #263893 is a reply to message #263863] |
Fri, 10 October 2014 05:59 |
Jim at the Co-op
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See that--- I have to tell ya Nelson is the master of using what he has to
do it. He sits in his shop for hours piddling and coming up with logical
stuff. Lemme tell ya about his Sears tractor-- God only knows it's
vintage, heck it used the motor Onan used in our Power Drawer generator.
For years, he has maintained that critter from the drek pile of my pull out
Onans. I love it, he comes over here, extracts some nasty old funky part
from a box over here and next time you hear he's up on that tractor like
Oliver Douglas-- "Green Acres is the place for me....". The Corvette he
has I think is running on Yugo parts! It's great to have him come by to
look at problems we have-- he's a great drive for me...
Next week I be his whole wood shop will be running off that buzz box!
Jim Bounds
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On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Nelson Wright wrote:
> Matt,
> Thank you for that reply. That was what I thought was happening. Now when
> I am using my chop saw i won't have to wait on the battery recharging, as
> most of the time this saw is located next to a wall outlet. Kinda makes one
> wonder why these AC powered devices aren't on the market place, or maybe
> they are but I haven't seen any. Anyway now here is another use for the old
> Buzz Box ( GMC M/H content).
>
> Nelson Wright
> Orlando FL
> 78 Royale rear bath
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> On Oct 9, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Matt Colie wrote:
>
>> Nelson wrote on Wed, 08 October 2014 15:38
>>> All this talk about using the Buzz box for a 12 volt DC power source
> got me thinking. I have been looking for a 120 AC power source to run my
>>> 18VDC battery powered Ryobi tools when the batteries are down, so I
> checked the Buzz box output and find that it puts out 15VDC at no load.
> Next I
>>> converted a dead battery case to accept the out put cables from the
> Buzz box and plugged this in my Ryobi cut off saw. The saw seems to run
> slower
>>> but with more umph. What does the braintrust think about this? Will the
> lower voltage harm the tools?
>>>
>>> Nelson Wright
>>
>> Nelson,
>>
>> What you report is exactly what I would expect. The unloaded speed may
> be lower, but the full load speed will not be. This is simply because the
>> voltage sag that the battery pack had is not there. The only problem
> you may run into is that the current at stall - like when you jam the saw
> blade
>> or drill bit - used to be limited by the battery pack's current limit.
> That limit was a long ways from 40 amps. So, use it, just don't jam it.
>>
>> Matt
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie - Members GMCMI, GMCES
>> '73 Glacier 23 - Still Loving the Applied Rear Brake Control Arms
>> SE Michigan - Twixt A2 and Detroit
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> Unsubscribe or Change List Options:
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